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lucky strike 05-20-2011 05:12 PM

No Recession Here
 
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....with stuff like this coming in and out of our canal :angry-smiley-038:

LS

huskyrider 05-20-2011 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 3408516)
....with stuff like this coming in and out of our canal :angry-smiley-038:

LS

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...e-img_2674.jpg

I must be in the wrong business and live in the wrong town. our local lake seems to enjoy all of the Pimp of the Nation Eastex bubba powerboating enthusiasts LOL!!!

See ya,
Kelly

nick9671 05-20-2011 05:44 PM

of course you have to have the matching sea doo on the back.....

Lofty 05-20-2011 06:28 PM

Don't knock Sunseekers owners, we need love too!

spk1 05-20-2011 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 3408516)
....with stuff like this coming in and out of our canal :angry-smiley-038:

LS


Club-Nautico South Florida division really has some great options compared to the other northern branches! :evilb: :evilb: :drink:

1bagger 05-20-2011 08:09 PM

Who knows maybe this poor guy had to downsize .
Somehow I doubt it .

Fountain4402 05-20-2011 08:27 PM

recessions very rarely affect the rich, or the poor. its always the middle guys

Club Drew 05-21-2011 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3408628)
recessions very rarely affect the rich, or the poor. its always the middle guys

Thats the guy who won the lottery but still gets food stamps boat:evilb:

prostock85 05-21-2011 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3408628)
recessions very rarely affect the rich, or the poor. its always the middle guys

I've noticed the poor seem to get richer during recessions... or at least seem to have ZERO ambition to get back to work

Fountain4402 05-21-2011 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by prostock85 (Post 3408764)
I've noticed the poor seem to get richer during recessions... or at least seem to have ZERO ambition to get back to work

well in a recession if your poor, welfare, stamps, etc. just doesnt change. If your rich you might loose out on a few bills here and there, but nothing that your going to lose sleep over

Strip Poker 388 05-21-2011 06:12 PM

I think some businesses profit from a recession

Lofty 05-23-2011 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 3409037)
I think some businesses profit from a recession

Yeah, like our Kalfornia firefighters... Avarage wage is up to $225k/year in the Bay Area, retire at 50 with 85% of your last years earnings for their pension. And they get to do labor trades throught their carier so they never use any vacation time then take up to one years un-used vacation as pay in their last year of employment boosting the last years salary.
That takes a retired 50 year old to $382,500/ year for his pension. Not bad in a resetion! :eek: I wonder why the state is going broke.....

SLINGSHOT 05-23-2011 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 3409987)
Yeah, like our Kalfornia firefighters... Avarage wage is up to $225k/year in the Bay Area, retire at 50 with 85% of your last years earnings for their pension. And they get to do labor trades throught their carier so they never use any vacation time then take up to one years un-used vacation as pay in their last year of employment boosting the last years salary.
That takes a retired 50 year old to $382,500/ year for his pension. Not bad in a resetion! :eek: I wonder why the state is going broke.....



INSANE@!$#

Fountain4402 05-23-2011 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 3409987)
Yeah, like our Kalfornia firefighters... Avarage wage is up to $225k/year in the Bay Area, retire at 50 with 85% of your last years earnings for their pension. And they get to do labor trades throught their carier so they never use any vacation time then take up to one years un-used vacation as pay in their last year of employment boosting the last years salary.
That takes a retired 50 year old to $382,500/ year for his pension. Not bad in a resetion! :eek: I wonder why the state is going broke.....

I think your numbers are off a little see below. Are you sure you have your facts right? If fire fighters got paid that much everybody would be at the door for them. I know a lot of people sit back and say oh GOVT employees are rich or GM workers are rich and they truely dont know the facts. Below is numbers from San Diego and LA's isnt much different. I find it hard to beleive they make that much. If they do thats crazy. Although Id rather pay a fire fighter that much money instead of a pro athlete.



entry-level firefighters/paramedics to $51,000, up from $44,000 a year.

Top-level firefighters will see pay go from $62,000 to $71,600. Pay for captains will rise from the current $74,000 to $88,000.
Source(s):
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/north…

Neverfastenuf 05-23-2011 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3410246)
I think your numbers are off a little see below. Are you sure you have your facts right? If fire fighters got paid that much everybody would be at the door for them. I know a lot of people sit back and say oh GOVT employees are rich or GM workers are rich and they truely dont know the facts. Below is numbers from San Diego and LA's isnt much different. I find it hard to beleive they make that much. If they do thats crazy. Although Id rather pay a fire fighter that much money instead of a pro athlete.



entry-level firefighters/paramedics to $51,000, up from $44,000 a year.

Top-level firefighters will see pay go from $62,000 to $71,600. Pay for captains will rise from the current $74,000 to $88,000.
Source(s):
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/north…

Yep. I have a good friend who retired as a Captain in the LA area. He sure does not have that kind of pension. Sure he does well, but that is from other investments, not pension. Maybe the Bay area is different, I don't know.

Sam

Fountain4402 05-23-2011 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Neverfastenuf (Post 3410297)
Yep. I have a good friend who retired as a Captain in the LA area. He sure does not have that kind of pension. Sure he does well, but that is from other investments, not pension. Maybe the Bay area is different, I don't know.

Sam

Im kind of thinking this guy is maybe talking about a chief of the city or some other high ranking individual. Firemen just dont make that much. Some people like to spout off about what they make and frankly will like. But no firefighter is making 285 your talking more than congressmen and almost as much as the POTUS.

Ed 05-23-2011 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 3408516)
....with stuff like this coming in and out of our canal :angry-smiley-038:

LS

Know what you mean. My neighbor just pulled up to his dock with a new Wally 47. Go figure. www.Wally.com

rchevelle71 05-23-2011 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3410246)
I think your numbers are off a little see below. Are you sure you have your facts right? If fire fighters got paid that much everybody would be at the door for them. I know a lot of people sit back and say oh GOVT employees are rich or GM workers are rich and they truely dont know the facts. Below is numbers from San Diego and LA's isnt much different. I find it hard to beleive they make that much. If they do thats crazy. Although Id rather pay a fire fighter that much money instead of a pro athlete.



entry-level firefighters/paramedics to $51,000, up from $44,000 a year.

Top-level firefighters will see pay go from $62,000 to $71,600. Pay for captains will rise from the current $74,000 to $88,000.
Source(s):
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/north…

They can make a killing in overtime, but not that much. My buddy in CT is well over 100K after overtime, but he has many cert's, and works OT every time someone takes a shift off.

Strip Poker 388 05-23-2011 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 3409987)
Yeah, like our Kalfornia firefighters... Avarage wage is up to $225k/year in the Bay Area, retire at 50 with 85% of your last years earnings for their pension. And they get to do labor trades throught their carier so they never use any vacation time then take up to one years un-used vacation as pay in their last year of employment boosting the last years salary.
That takes a retired 50 year old to $382,500/ year for his pension. Not bad in a resetion! :eek: I wonder why the state is going broke.....


225k a year is unreal:eek:

Fountain4402 05-23-2011 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3410342)
They can make a killing in overtime, but not that much. My buddy in CT is well over 100K after overtime, but he has many cert's, and works OT every time someone takes a shift off.

i know what you mean state police etc can get upwards of 100k with mega overtime and they worked for it, but 280k Idont think so

Lofty 05-23-2011 01:58 PM

Fact Check:
http://www.mercurynews.com/salaries/bay-area

Alameda County Fire Dept. Hoskins, James A Fire Captain

Entity Name
Alameda County Fire Dept.
Base $116,460
Other $70,733
Gross $187,193
MDV $15,585
ER Psn $30,285
EPEPsn $0
DC $1,155
Misc. $281
TCOE $234,499

Lofty 05-23-2011 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3410246)
I think your numbers are off a little see below. Are you sure you have your facts right? If fire fighters got paid that much everybody would be at the door for them. ...

I'll get the lawn chairs and a cooler, the fireman I know have nice front yards!

Lofty 05-23-2011 02:02 PM

Here's the whole list, it's good to be a fireman!


http://www.mercurynews.com/salaries/bay-area/2010

Griswald 05-23-2011 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by huskyrider (Post 3408530)


I believe that boat belongs to a friend of mine from TX. Older '80s model? He just picked it up at the Lauderdale boat show.

Fountain4402 05-23-2011 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 3410500)
Fact Check:
http://www.mercurynews.com/salaries/bay-area

Alameda County Fire Dept. Hoskins, James A Fire Captain

Entity Name
Alameda County Fire Dept.
Base $116,460
Other $70,733
Gross $187,193
MDV $15,585
ER Psn $30,285
EPEPsn $0
DC $1,155
Misc. $281
TCOE $234,499

good facts. I wonder if they get everything in there listed and what is considered overtime. Either way nice job. But living out there isnt cheap. 1000sq ft home in a descent neighborhood will run you 500 grand

PhantomChaos 05-23-2011 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Griswald (Post 3410516)
I believe that boat belongs to a friend of mine from TX. Older '80s model? He just picked it up at the Lauderdale boat show.

LOL! That is a late model Sunseeker, probably a Predator 64.

http://www.sunseeker.com/showboat.php?bid=29

Griswald 05-23-2011 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3410714)
LOL! That is a late model Sunseeker, probably a Predator 64.

http://www.sunseeker.com/showboat.php?bid=29

I was wrong. Looks pretty close, but his is some Italian-made boat and from the late 80s.

TURBO JET 05-23-2011 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 3409987)
Yeah, like our Kalfornia firefighters... Avarage wage is up to $225k/year in the Bay Area, retire at 50 with 85% of your last years earnings for their pension. And they get to do labor trades throught their carier so they never use any vacation time then take up to one years un-used vacation as pay in their last year of employment boosting the last years salary.
That takes a retired 50 year old to $382,500/ year for his pension. Not bad in a resetion! :eek: I wonder why the state is going broke.....


Would you run in here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tk5D54VI0I

Lofty 05-23-2011 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3410714)
LOL! That is a late model Sunseeker, probably a Predator 64.

http://www.sunseeker.com/showboat.php?bid=29

I was thinking the same thing, it makes my Superchicken look like a old panga.

PhantomChaos 05-23-2011 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 3410772)
I was thinking the same thing, it makes my Superchicken look like a old panga.


What year is your Superhawk?

Catmando 05-23-2011 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 3409987)
Yeah, like our Kalfornia firefighters... Avarage wage is up to $225k/year in the Bay Area, retire at 50 with 85% of your last years earnings for their pension. And they get to do labor trades throught their carier so they never use any vacation time then take up to one years un-used vacation as pay in their last year of employment boosting the last years salary.
That takes a retired 50 year old to $382,500/ year for his pension. Not bad in a resetion! :eek: I wonder why the state is going broke.....

I think firemen and policemen are worth every penny they can make. Unlike you, they put their lives on the line in their jobs every day.

PARADISE ISLAND 05-23-2011 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3410838)
I think firemen and policemen are worth every penny they can make. Unlike you, they put their lives on the line in their jobs every day.

Your right they put there lives at risk drinking&doing side jobs while on the clock:evilb:

Lofty 05-24-2011 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3410825)
What year is your Superhawk?

It's an 02' with triple Yanmars and TriMax surface drives. We get some good use out of it in the Bay Area, we keep her up river but run down to the Bay out the gate to Half Moon Bay and up to Drakes and Tamales Bay for overnights. It's not the best overnight rig since there is no gally.

Lofty 05-24-2011 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3410838)
I think firemen and policemen are worth every penny they can make. Unlike you, they put their lives on the line in their jobs every day.

Then I'll send you my property tax bills but you are correct, the closest I come to puting my life on the line is asking my wife what's for dinner before I finnish breakfast.

You may not be aware of what the public unions are doing in California, please read;
http://www.vcstar.com/news/2011/may/...g-advances-in/

We also pay 10% sales tax in our lovely state.

Fountain4402 05-24-2011 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3410838)
I think firemen and policemen are worth every penny they can make. Unlike you, they put their lives on the line in their jobs every day.

I agree, we as a country have no problem paying somebody 30 million a year to play baseball or somebody 10 million to make a movie, and those people provide nothing to society except entertainment and even then is crap half of the time.

I will say this, what they make is all relative. I was down at camp last year and a friend of a friend came out from cali and he basically through out his whole finances and was discussing them. The guy from cali think he was from the LA area made roughly 300 a year and he was amazed at the house and items might friend had who makes less than 100 a year. My friend had a nicer house, a camp and two nice cars, the guy who made 300 had a small home and two older cars and thats all he could afford. Think he had a 12-1300 sq ft home that cost him 700,000 and his payment is like 6-7 grand a month for it.

So its all relative

Indy 05-24-2011 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3411185)
I agree, we as a country have no problem paying somebody 30 million a year to play baseball or somebody 10 million to make a movie, and those people provide nothing to society except entertainment and even then is crap half of the time.

The good thing is that you don't have to watch baseball, subscribe to the NFL channel, go to the games, etc. You don't have to go to the movies or get the movie channels either so at least you have the choice not to put your hard earned dollars in their pockets.

My problem is with the speculators and hedge funds that are jerking off the public with the oil/gas situation. We have no choice or alternative to go to. F'ers...

Baja_342 05-24-2011 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3411185)
I agree, we as a country have no problem paying somebody 30 million a year to play baseball or somebody 10 million to make a movie, and those people provide nothing to society except entertainment and even then is crap half of the time.

I will say this, what they make is all relative. I was down at camp last year and a friend of a friend came out from cali and he basically through out his whole finances and was discussing them. The guy from cali think he was from the LA area made roughly 300 a year and he was amazed at the house and items might friend had who makes less than 100 a year. My friend had a nicer house, a camp and two nice cars, the guy who made 300 had a small home and two older cars and thats all he could afford. Think he had a 12-1300 sq ft home that cost him 700,000 and his payment is like 6-7 grand a month for it.

So its all relative

Our taxes don't pay Tom Cruise's salary.

You're right about it being relative though. 9 years back I sold my Fountain to a guy from the bay area. He and his wife flew out, had his truck shipped to my house I was in at the time. His truck got delayed and they ended up spending the weekend with us. He wondered what I did to afford a seven figure home. He was shocked when I told him I paid $215K for it.

Fountain4402 05-24-2011 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 3411194)
The good thing is that you don't have to watch baseball, subscribe to the NFL channel, go to the games, etc. You don't have to go to the movies or get the movie channels either so at least you have the choice not to put your hard earned dollars in their pockets.

My problem is with the speculators and hedge funds that are jerking off the public with the oil/gas situation. We have no choice or alternative to go to. F'ers...

True but you pay salary by just having cable tv you know what right and thats not even having special channels. say you have comcast or Time warner. Well they in turn pay the big networks who in turn pay the teams for tv contracts. I dont like the speculators either. Soldiers, police, fireman are worth every penny IMO. Maybe because I was a soldier, but there is no pay check worth putting your life on the line, nuff said

PhantomChaos 05-24-2011 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 3411098)
It's an 02' with triple Yanmars and TriMax surface drives. We get some good use out of it in the Bay Area, we keep her up river but run down to the Bay out the gate to Half Moon Bay and up to Drakes and Tamales Bay for overnights. It's not the best overnight rig since there is no gally.

Nice! Any pics?

BLee 05-24-2011 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 3408516)
....with stuff like this coming in and out of our canal :angry-smiley-038:

LS


Where the hell am I supposed to land my helicopter on that piece of driftwood? :drink:


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