Bruce Dudley???
 

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By the way, any of you guys ever do business with a guy named Bruce Dudley out of St Louis? He's on this forum as Boat1. He made me a pretty good offer to do all of the rebuild work on my boat. All four references he provided me couldn't shut up about his work. Most of them had significant work done, too. Just curious if anybody here's heard of him.

Holy $hit!!!! :angry-smiley-038::angry-smiley-038: He's ripped off a few folks here hasn't he?

:eek:

Ok I don't know this name,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what's up with him?

RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Run away as FAST as you can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nort,
That's what I remember too, man a blast from the past!:eek:

Yours truly included, but not to the extent of most. Reckon Bruce was kinda wishing this didn't come out? :)

But maybe he is a new man now.

Somebody ping Dave1972. :)

Did he go to jail? I don't remember the whole story.

:food-smiley-007:Wow...interesting! He owes me a fairly significant amount of money and I have a judgement in WI that I've never collected on from years ago. If anyone is interested in collecting, I am also interested. Hell, I even know where to find him.

Steer clear of this guy...I wouldn't let him work on my weed whacker let alone anything of significant value.

Oh yeah, if you are reading this Bruce--I still think about you and know where you are. You have quite a history according to several people from your distant past.

Just when I thought all of this was water over the dam or under the bridge depending on where your water goes--I'd love to hear the latest scandal!!!!

Like sands through the hourglass.......

LOL< I thought he "died" at one point didn't he ?

One point in the future. Which probably got significantly closer with this tidbit hitting the board.


:lolhit::eek:

Glad I asked... :D

I was with Dave1972 year or so ago w/ the alleged mechanic guy_____ showed his face at LOTO, running as a "pit crew". Should have seen the look on his face when confronted, sure left in a hurry!!!!!

Run don't walk....

I'm pretty sure you can find more than 4 on here that won't shut up about how they were screwed by him and his many names.

The search function is your friend:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-boating-discussion/55224-how-much-did-bruce-dudley-get-you.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-boating-discussion/95525-old-story-looking-info-anyone-heard-bruce-dudley.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-boating-discussion/34234-puder-you-anyone-else-here-talked-bruce-dudley-lately.html

Only thing good about getting old is you remember a lot of the outlaws.

This should work too: HERE

DUDley
 

The name says it all,do not talk to him,give him any money,or any info about yourself.You would be better having a member of a street gang working on your boat than him !

I remember it all well but would be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he had drug issues or something and now is reformed. It's happened before. But of course he would need to make good on any outstanding issues with those screwed. Most of that was near 10 yrs ago. People can certainly change in that time. Anyone been screwed in recent past or is it all the old legacy screwins by bruce?

Crazy stories... That is a good question. Anybody had interaction with him recently, or is this all old news? Just curious...

Mike

He owes lots of people lots of $$$. He made a bunch of deals to do work, got cash deposits and parts and took off.

Its all pretty old news. Probably old news because most people wouldn't deal with him at all. I'm sure a lot of people would like to find him and collect what they are owed.

A local guy here was out about 5k in cash and 90% of the parts to build 2 540 engines.

30 Chris cat I am thinking.

Maybe the new members here can try their luck.

Us from the past remember.

Yep, the other Mike that boated Bellevue. I saw his boat out running the river once or twice the past couple of Summers.

Yeah, he jacked my good buddy Eric aka CheckmakeF1 on his HP500 rebuild several years ago.

Yes I have a past that that includes poor decisions and bad business decisions. I also acknowledge there is a judgement aginst me that has not been paid. Anyone that can use the search function can read about the past, I have not responded to any of the information on this forum. To date, over $40,000 has been returned to individuals and there are three more people that I'm sure would like to talk to me. If you feel that you are owed money from me please send your letter to: Bruce Dudley, 14 Droeste Square, St. Charles, Missouri, 63301. If you don't like me or have an axe to grind for someone else please move on and enjoy your life. I am not in business and am not in any way soliciting work. This information request was started because I was trying to help the individual achieve his goals and sell some parts. I have privately explained and answered any questions asked by that individual. I have had to explain myself for a long time and I am trying to make things right. I realize this will start a great band wagon bash session. Time has made me realize the importance of my reputation and I am working to recover it one project at a time. I will not respond to public accusations from this forum. If you have had actual dealings with me please feel free to contact me and I hope we can reach a mutual resolution.

Thanks for responding, Bruce. I think that was very big of you. I agree, that's how it all went down between us. You very generously offered to help me while selling me some parts, and didn't ask for a dime until the boat and parts were delivered back to me. I in no way feel like you were attempting to mis-treat me in our dealings and look forward to dealing with you again in the future.

I am one of those three and I would love to here from ANYONE who has received a dime from this *******.

I know Bruce, and he has recently done some work for me. Two days before a poker run at LOTO this past spring, i found that my ECM was bad. Bruce busted his ass to find one, and then spent a significant amount of time figuring out exactly how to re-program it using the mefi-burn software. It was because of him that we were able to get out onto the lake.

After a month or so of running the boat, i was having some breakup at higher RPM's. he asked me a littany of questions, and I ended up taking the boat to St. Louis. It was not the fuel, as I had expected, but it was the valve springs that the builder had used. They were weak and allowing for the valves to float. He also found some challenges with the wiriing harness which had been exposed to salt water and air for 8 years of its life. He cleaned all of teh connections, and routed around the 10 pin connector to make it all happen. Not exactly a long term solution, but his work allowed my son and I to run at the Shootout. Otherwise we would have been screwed. When I picked up my boat, he was also working on an ex-race car drivers boat. This guy could have about anybody work on his stuff, but he chose Bruce.

Bruce also made a dockside visit at LOTO to check out some other little issues that had arisen, and we took care of what we could. He showed me the problem, explained the solution, and we made some decisions on what we should do right then, and what could wait until after the Shootout. I have some appearances to make in the month of October, but I will be taking it back to Bruce to do re-do all of the electrical, plus some other items that had been worked on by a few owners and owners friends over the past 10 years. I have no doubt that the boat will be a better boat because of it.

In all of these instances, Bruce did not ask for a penny up front, and when we did settle up, he was very, very fair.

There is no doubt in my mind that he had made some bad decisions in his past. Absolutely none. Does a bad patch in ones past make them bad forever? Does it mean that all of the knowledge that he has from working alongside alot of very talented people mean nothing? I will admit that ones past will follow them for a long, long time, especially if it is negative at all. While one should maybe exercise a bit of caution I don't think that they should be written off forever.

Mlitefan2- I believe you when you say that you did not get what you paid for with your old dealings with Bruce. I hope that instead of just blasting him on this forum, you contacted him as he stated to do in the post that you highlighted. If not, well, then your post really does not mean alot, other than you want to keep blasting him. I know that it might make you feel better, but I would think that it would not go very far in resolving the problem. Would it make you feel better if he declared bankruptcy and cleaned the slate? Would it have made you feel better if he had done it before making it right with anybody? In your opinion, how long should a guy have to make ammends for his challenges before giving another chance?

BTW, I was not going to post to this thread, as I would rather not get in the middle of something that I know little about. With that said, I did need to share that I have done quite a bit of recent business with Bruce, and my expectations have been more than met.

Bruce has also done work for me in the past and I've been treated very fair and very happy with his work and pricing, this has been my experience, just to let everyone know.

I doubt I could hand over a significant amount of money to Dudley based on his past. I know people can change but using my money to experience that change has a significant amount of risk that I don't want to carry.

My suggestion to Dudley if he wishes to work in the marine industry would be to work under supervision in a established shop at a hourly rate.

You are probably a very nice individual. I am very happy you haven't been screwed yet by Bruce but one thing I can say for certain, if you keep dealing with him, he WILL screw you.

I ask again...how many people has he actually paid back?

You want to know how long a bad patch in ones life sticks around? How about at least until he pays back everyone that he screwed. Pretty good start, don't you think? I, along with many others here went after him tooth and nail when he ripped us off and he has all my contact information. He knows my address. He knows my phone number. I have a PM into his latest screen name.

Mysteriously, after all his "changing", I still haven't received the money he stole from me. I haven't received a call saying he will pay it back in chunks. I haven't had so much of a "kiss my ass".

You seem to have a good rapport with Bruce. How about you tell him to pay me my money. THAT would be doing a fellow OSO member a real favor. I can tell you one thing...you aren't going to make too many friends by defending Bruce.

And lastly...what would make me feel better is if he paid me my damn money. Hopefully this is a simple concept you can grasp.

Oh and by the way. He couldn't even manage to type the right address.

14 Droeste Square, St. Charles, Missouri, 63301

It's DROSTE....if that really is where he works. A flooring/carpet shop.

Oddly enough, 15 Droste Square is listed as "Performance Propeller"

Now Bruce wouldn't be playing games again would he? This just MUST be a coincidence....yeah, that's it. One HELL of a coincidence. :rolleyes:

And Tango...unfortunately I PAID for the unwanted right to give him ****.

I would be pissed if I was you also. I can understand how you feel as I have been stung by some customers for some pretty good money. I assume that you have mailed to the address that he has given you, like he asked you to do? I have been there a couple of times, and there is a prop shop near him, so that explains that. This is not the Taj Mahol, it is just a row of large industrial type garages tucked in behind some other businesses. Very low overhead operation, but at the end of the day, it is the knowledge that counts.

I hope that you are able to figure out a way through this.

Clearly this still strikes a nerve with me. I wouldn't trust the guy any further than I could throw him and that isn't very far since he is a big son of a *****.

I am going to call instead of sending a letter but I fully expect to get absolutely nothing back from him. Just as I suspect he is full of crap by saying he has repaid 40K to the many people he ripped off here.

Just so you know, it was the very things he has been doing with you that gained him a good reputation here before he decided it was easier to steal from people than work.

You can do what you want but everyone who hasn't been here for any length of time needs to understand who and what this guy is.

He must have been, in the past at least, a pretty bad egg. After you guys contact him to try and resolve the issues, please keep us updated. Good luck.

???????? How about BRUCE contact HIM regarding BRUCE's problem like mlitefan2 has asked? Who is the victim here? GEEEZZZZ!

What if we found Fred Cecil (Too Old) posting under a new name selling some parts......geee.....he must have been going through something rough 5 years ago. LOL!!! Or if Troutly was posting on here posting porn again........geee........he must have been going through a rough time 8 years ago. This needs to go in a different section. BEWARE and STOLEN section!

If I somehow manage to get my money back, I will be the first to stand up and say he is reformed.

Until then, he is still a thief.

And I am not about to hold my breath on seeing a dime...unfortunately, he stole a lot more from other members than he took from me.

I got some of my money back from Bruce through a court case in St. Louis a few years ago. He plead guilty to a Class D Felony and was ordered to pay restitution to 3 plantiffs including me. I am not going to call him reformed because I honestly don't know, but he has repaid some people. I am not sure how many or how much in total.

He has offered to talk to those who still have a credit balance with him. That's a big step from where he was 8 or 9 years ago when he dropped out of siight.

Send him a certified letter and see what happens.

That is great to hear.

One last thing, and then I will bow out. Running a small shop is very, very difficult. Many people are great at a skill and then try to start thier own shop, whether he be a mechanic, carpenter, baker, accountant, etc. Most of the time they fail. Not because they are bad technicians, but because they do not understand business, accrural accounting, cash flows, etc. They are some guys on here that have made the transition successfully, and they should be held in very, very high regard. Once a little guy begins to get behind on cash flow, it is a very, very slippery slope. Some bad small decisions can sometimes force bigger bad decisions, ond so on. I have been there. It is a tough lesson to learn. To have the balls to saddle it up and take another shot at it is something that most people would never do. Our country is full of them that just sit on the sidelines. With these mistakes, though, one would like to think that you would learn something. Are you better off doing business with somebody that has learned from these mistakes, or somebody that may have them to learn yet? I don't know. As I was told a long time ago that a baby learns to walk by falling. If a baby did not fall, they would never walk.

I really do hope that everybody can find resolution, and I hope that Bruce has learned from his past and will have a better future.

No offense, but that could be one of the stupidest posts of all time. The man is a convicted thief and multiple members here have been ripped off by him. To say people should trust him more because he's a thief than an honest person who MAY become a thief is assanine. He didn't rip you off,consider yourself lucky.

He hasn't learned a damn thing. Not a damn thing. Wish I could report otherwise.