Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3421753)

......................All middle easterners are terrorist? ??..........................

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3421876)

I don't have a front license plate on my car....... :D

Originally Posted by Tigeman (Post 3420827)

So a few months ago OK passed our new BUI law. We had always been .1 on the water and .08 on the road. I have zero problem with boating regulations being on par with vehicle limits. While I may not like the .08 opposed to the .1, I see the merits and won't raise hell about it. That said it's what they snuck in with the law that's totally F'd up!

You can now receive a BUI even if anchored. So if your in a house boat, or a boat w/ a cabin and planning on staying the night you can receive a BUI. If your anchored up, and playing hanky panky w/ the misses down below, and your both liquored up.... yep BUI. In addition, your passengers can now receive one as well. The passenger stipulation was wrote to keep people from saying, well, I'm not driving, he is....then that guy saying no, he is. Etc. etc. But it's so open ended that if you get a prick lake patrol (and we all know that guy).... then even your passengers are screwed.

Well the anchored up provision got a friend of mine this weekend. We were anchored up in a cove at Grand this weekend on a houseboat. We had been there since Friday and had 2 other boats tied up for runabout purposes. Well sat afternoon water patrol came up and tells us he's coming aboard for a safety check. Everything is good there but he asks the capt of the houseboat to submit to a sobriety test. Of course he says what for? We're not driving and we're anchored up and inside not outside. He says that doesn't matter now. Doc refuses and patrolman tells him he's under arrest for suspicion of BUI. So I began to question the patrolman about the validity since we're anchored and obviously staying the night there. His backup who recently arrived tells me to sit "my ass down" and shut up before I get a BUI too. Of course I'm kind of offended as my boats tied up outside and I'm going nowhere. I mention that, he tells us it no longer matters. So I sit down and shut up while we try and keep the kids calm as they're crying as dad gets hauled off for drinking a few beers on his "residence" for the weekend. I had seen the details of this law a while back and tried to fight it, but none of our legislators would fight it for fear of the backlash. I never thought the lake patrol here would push the passenger and anchored up issues, as most the guys I've met are pretty cool. Well apparently I was wrong.

The same person who wrote this legislation is now pushing through a 55mph speed limit on all state lakes. So batten down the hatches boys, as there's a **** storm coming our way!

Originally Posted by frankenstein (Post 3422324)

I'm so glad that my wife and I decided not to bring any children into this screwed up country.

Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3421671)

you bring up some good points. And I dont think the at anchor thing is going to be the norm as much as discretion for officers to use. Im thinking its more of a way for people to not get away with oh im parked so you cant get me. Its the samething with a car thats parked if keys are in the ignition you have intent to drive. And 98% of people pulled up in a party cove arent staying the night.

Me personally if I was cop I would just sit from a far and watch with binoculars, and only intervene in a crisis. Or I would wait till people leave to go home then hammer them on their way out.

Originally Posted by Jsceen (Post 3422329)

I don't know about anybody else but I come to the conclusion that Oklahoma sucks....at least boating wise.

Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3422417)

It sucks all together. Been there for a whole. OKC is about the best thing there. Other than that, grass and cattle.

Originally Posted by Sea-Dated (Post 3422429)

Try spending some time here before making a dumb ass comment like that. Actually, don't, stay in the NY please.

OKC has nothing on Tulsa and we have E-Dock.:coolcowboy:

I lived in NJ for a couple years and me and family couldn't get back to Oklahoma fast enough.

Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3422431)

I have lived there dumb ass and it sucks. And I dont live anywhere near jersey or the city.

Originally Posted by Sea-Dated (Post 3422439)

Sorry I didn't memorize your personal residential history before quoting you. My bad. (sarcasm by the way)

On behalf of Oklahoma, stay in NY and your 3 month boating season and thanks for leaving.

Originally Posted by mroberts (Post 3421937)

All I can say is that on Memorial Day Weekend I was in Dripping at about 12 noon and got 100% harassed by a new GRDA guy.

He clearly had it out for me. He caused a complete scene in the middle of the cove, followed me around, caused a scene again... then he really got the attitude and threatened to take me to jail for not following 'A DIRECT ORDER'. Had it not been for my girlfriend being on the boat and freaking out, I would have let his punk ass take me to jail. Trust me, based on this guy's behavior... he WILL try to bust YOU at the lake this summer. Dark skinned younger guy.. was driving a Baja on the day of my incident.

I also had another older GRDA guy come to the boat next to us the day before, and ask a middle aged woman what was in her cup. She had her head screwed on a lot better than me and said 'Lemonade'.. I would have spouted right off and said 'RBV... DUH!'

They are trying to encroach on our fun. Watch yourselves.

I have been looking into how and where to file direct complaints against stuff like this. I told a friend that in some ways I understand, because if I was the officer, I would hate someone like me too... but the problem was that I was acting completely in good faith of the law. He wanted to try to cause a scene and ruin my day.. but I wansn't going to let him win.

He was more concerned about me sticking my damn 2014 sticker IMMEDIATELY on my boat.. not about the 30 boats full of underage kids next to me bonging beers, smoking weed and whatever else. Lets screw with the guy with the big boat, totally behaving, and being totally polite and cordial...

Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3421685)

True you dont know. But waiting for a crime to happen or some gets killed is not the correct way to enforce laws either.

Originally Posted by CrownHawg (Post 3422637)

Or maybe, "Attempted Intoxication"?

Originally Posted by CrownHawg (Post 3422637)

Here in Arkansas, we have LOTS of water patrol. I know several, and as long as you are not acting a fool, or falling down drunk, they will leave you alone. I'm sure there are some over zealous ones, but I haven't met him yet.....

Originally Posted by 44MTI (Post 3422288)

https://www.sos.ok.gov/documents/leg.../1R/SB/324.pdf

Here is the link to the new law.

Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3422417)

It sucks all together. Been there for a while. OKC is about the best thing there. Other than that, grass and cattle.

Originally Posted by RebarBox (Post 3423769)

Section 3, Paragragh A - 1 'Any person who OPERATES a vessel...'

Am I missing something? Seems the law is the same as always, just .08 in lieu .10:confused:

Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3421708)

police ones are a little more accurate and you have the right to a blood test if you wish once you get to jail. I think they need to provide a blood test to the court in many states. Plus half of the time cops are video taped now so a guy stumbling and slurring is all the judge needs to see

Originally Posted by Dawg Gone (Post 3424973)

So if someone is stone sober and has minimal coordination, are they subject to a OVI / DUI? I love that thought. A person shouldn't be prosecuted based on their BAC but rather their performance on the road. If someone has a BAC of 0.12 and is responsible vs. some sober clown texting/talikng on the phone/wiping Johnny's chin and runs someone off the road, who is at fault? The sober SOB has no excuse if you really think about it.

Welcome to the sissification of America!!!

Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3421692)

Your better off cooperating and getting done with it

Originally Posted by X-Rated30 (Post 3425153)

Well this is just bizarrely incorrect. Not true in any way, shape or form.:eek:

Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3425165)

I also love the people that try to skirt around or justify drinking and driving. And our childish and feel as if they cant have a fun time without a drink

Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3425165)

I also love the people that try to skirt around or justify drinking and driving. And are childish and feel as if they cant have a fun time without a drink

Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3425192)

I realize you live in NY, and that they only teach people there to be sheeple and do what the government says, but you are obviously oblivious to the loss of liberty this law presents. And you are also oblivious to the fact that if we continue to allow such liberties to deteriorate you will not have any liberties left. Many people live on boats, many people have boats as lakehouses, many people have condominiums with boats. You can be drunk in your own house. What this law says is that any person who is drunk in actual physical control of a boat or motorhome is not allowed to be drunk, even if the motorized vehicle is a private residence. When they say actual physical control, they mean if you are anywhere around your yacht, dock condo, or motorhome. Doesn't matter if its night time or daytime. Doesn't matter if you have a designated driver. They are saying you can not be drunk in your own private residence simply because it has a motor. And futhermore, none of your passengers can be drunk either because they "could' drive. That is a violation of the constitution because it allows for unreasonable search and seizures. It also allows Police Officers to arrest people on the mere assumption that they will/are commiting a crime. In this case, if your passengers are drunk while moored they assume they have "actual physical control." Police officers have no right to knock on the door of my private residence and question me or make me take an alcohol test when it is anchored or moored. They also don't have any right to put someone in jail by assuming they will commit a crime.

And your wrong about OK boating too. OK has more coastline than the entire state of CA. Texoma is one of the top ten boating lake destinations in the country per powerboat magazine, but I'm sure their wrong too. OK is one of the most beautiful states in the country.

Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3425192)

And your wrong about OK boating too. OK has more coastline than the entire state of CA. Texoma is one of the top ten boating lake destinations in the country per powerboat magazine, but I'm sure their wrong too. OK is one of the most beautiful states in the country.

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3425293)

Nice post! But wait, we have lakes here too! Did you count that in your shoreline equation? :drink: