What's the price tag on a diesel X 4x4?

Cat,

We ordered my G/F's Suburban with 4 captains chairs, and now Ford offers the same on the Excursion.

BTW: What is the towing capacity on a van, and how does the wheel base compare?

David, I paid 36K for my 2002 4x4 PSD XLT X. Sticker was 40,200 plus tax. That 36 is including 6% sales tax. I also get an employee discount. The only option I got was the PSD and towing mirrors.

i'd probably go with a van if they had a 4X4...i used to have a full size high topper i did my pullin with but one day on a moss grown ramp what i needed changed forever.

This is for you van guys
 

I've seen a few Ford E350 conversion vans that were 4x4 and had the PSD.
I remember the first time I saw one at a stoplight. I look over and see this van (windows with curtains and all) but I hear the sound of a diesel. Well I start to check it out and it's a 350 4x4 . it was way cool !
I then saw another one towing a snowmobile trailer in the winter time.

Why is it when someone has an agenda to kill something (large SUV's) they cannot just come out and say it. Instead they come up with this rediculous argument about the size of SUV's and cars and that it is killing people. If they are so worried about the size differential of the vehicles on todays roads, why don't they come out against 18 wheelers. Now that is size differental. Class 6 and class 8 trucks afford more opportunity for death when in an accident with a car than any SUV made. Any car or SUV that tangles with a SEMI truck, loaded or unloaded, will loose.

Just come out and say that you do not not want other people driving around in something you do not approve of and stop hiding behind a fictitious "safety" concern.

Spoken like a true Peorian! :D

I remember when there was discussion with the insurance companies that they would charge more money on full size extra cab trucks and suv's because they were so much more likely to do damage to any passenger class vehicle they tangled with. I thought they were insane, if someone is afraid of the damage I may do to them in my F350 tell em to stay outa my way or get more insurance for themselves, I pay for plenty of my own. I'm not sure what a "Peorian" is but I agree with H2oWarrior 100%, now where'd I put that beer.
Chuck :D

Now lemme get this straight...
 

Cat, you're saying that you want al the SUV's off the road, but it would be great if everyone drove 1 TON, 4x4 diesel vans all over the place? :rolleyes: With no window area so you can't see that little jap crap you just rolled over?
Now that makes perfect sense...........not.:rolleyes: :confused:


Oh yeah, I forgot those things HAVE to get great mileage;) :rolleyes:

Hell, I work at the plant and that's news to me...
 

Although I'm just a lowly software engineer, and I'm not usually the first to know these things. I was talking to a friend who is a process engineer in the proveout area, and he did mention the new 5sp auto and the new diesel motor, but did not mention anything about the X being discontinued. I would think that that would be pretty big news around the plant.

Come on, if I have the money and I want my wife to drive the biggest thing available – done deal! If she is a menace on the road, then Troutly needs to give her a ticket. As far as fuel efficiency, give me a break. The world is awash in oil, we have the toughest pollution standards in the world – done deal! Be thankful we live in a free-enterprise society where these decisions are possible and count your blessing, because this could be my next SUV!

:D :D :D

JD Power shows the Excursion on the current platform ending production in December 2004 and starting on a new platform in January 2005. Volume is a little over 30k per year.

They also list that the X is due for a facelift in July 2002, which will be similar to what the Yukon/Sub are going to receive at the 03 model year change over.

I have not heard or read anything in industry news about the X going away.

MK

Hey Cat....Youre losing me here? { Maybe im slow} E-350 Vans are OK. But SUVs arent ? Whats the diff ?? Also I dont know if you have a boat or not {Profile doesnt say} But you must be into Hi-Perf. Boating or you wouldnt be here. Theres not much out there worse than twinn blown BBs pushing big boats,as far as fuel consumtion goes!!!!!! You cant have it both ways Dude!!!!:D

Cat: I see youre point about station wagons.Nothing pisses me off more than soccer moms roaring down the road with cell phone stuffed in ear with one hand and "johnys dirty diaper in the other!!Cant count how many times ive had to drop two wheels off these 2 lane roads to avoid swapping mirrors with these idiots!!!Station Wagons were good enough for our moms!!!:D
Oh well this is america,drive what you like!!!!!!

Hey Uncle Toys:

Loved the Kenworth....but don't forget the Freightliner "Fossil Fueler" , The Peterbuilt "Annihilator", and the Mack "Mastadon".....all of them come with steps and a unique wiper system which completely removes small Japanese autos from the lower bumpers.

T2x

There's a pretty simple way to look at it guys......


Minivan=Station Wagon

Suv=Enlosed Pickup Truck

I know which one I'll take.

Buck
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What’s wrong Catman, 100 years reserves aren’t enough for you. You plan on living longer? Maybe we should go back to burning whale blubber to light our homes. Hey now, that’s a renewable source!

Doomsayers to the contrary, the world contains far more recoverable oil than was believed even 20 years ago. Since the oil shocks in the 70’s, estimated global oil reserves have grown over 70% while usage has continually gone up – uh, excuse me – at “faster and faster rates with bigger and bigger vehicles,” and lions and tigers and bears, oh my! Us silly capitalist pigs just keep filling the coffers of those devils in the middle east. That must be why Saudi Arabia ran a $5 billion deficit last year. God, we better stop being such greedy free-market dopes.

Sorry to be such a simpleton. I just keep spewing my lame dogma about free markets and free people. Just like the other simpletons before me – Thomas Jefferson, Adam Smith, etc.

But then again, maybe there is something to this right wing stuff. Clone dangerous housewives, give them monster trucks to terrorize the suburbs, let them devour our precious natural resources, profits will go through the roof, we’ll be even richer. Ohhhhhh!!!!!!

The geniuses that are lamenting the telling us that global warming is just around the corner are the same chicken littles that were screaming back in the 70's about a new ice age. And let's not forget overpopulation. All of which are suitable material to fertilize your garden, if you catch my drift.

UT - well said.

"COLOR ME STUPID"

I have been HAD by my Ford Dealer.

Went by yesterday and they were laughing their ass off.

Ford "IS NOT" discontinuing the Excursion.

I give this guy hell, we have know each other for over 12 years and he set me up big time. Not only did he convince me that the Excursion was gone, but two other saleman went along and backed his story up.

Very sorry guys, those that know me know I don't try to post anything that is not fact.

Oh well, Let the "Big X" live on.

Mark

LOL - looks like they busted your bells pretty good :) Ah, well, at least it gave catmando another opportunity to push his socialist utopia...

Baja Boss - Thanks for the update. Many people might have been too embrassed to tell us. Your a stand up dude!

Dude, I am glad they aren't discontinuing the X. Somebody played a good gag that sparked serious interest! Hey Uncle Toys, You are one well read good talking son of a gun, I wish I could express my opinions and views half as well! Fortunately I seem to share many of yours so I don't have to. My wife drives a full size Blazer and won't even look at anyhing that doesn't sit up, I tried to talk her into a new Ford Lightning, she like the look and sat in it but said only if we could put a lift kit on it :confused: :eek: :D Drive what you want as long as you can afford it!
Chuck

XTRM22 - Thanks for the kind words!

Thanks Uncle Toys, I appreciate that.

I really try to be a stand up guy. I love a good joke as well as the next guy and they got me good. They had better be looking over their shoulder though. LOL

I thought you were a stand up guy until I saw your picture with someone from South Carolina that I won't name !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark

Don't worry about that photo, I am not really that good looking;) ;)