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JO - PANTERABOATS 08-11-2011 02:42 PM
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The Pantera 28' model is a true 28' to the transom. With the optional aluminum swim platform installed overall length is a little over 30 feet.These 2 new 28' SR are being completed now. One powered by a single 525 EFI and the other with a single 600 SCI.

Jo - Pantera Boats

302Sport 08-11-2011 02:48 PM
jo did you guys build anything bigger than 28 years ago??? I know about the newer twin steps, but im talking prior to that.

JO - PANTERABOATS 08-11-2011 02:54 PM
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We still offer the 24' 36' and new 41 model'. We also did manufacture a few 38' years ago.

This new 2012 Pantera 41' just headed overseas. Came out awesome !

Regards,

JO

Stormrider 08-11-2011 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3476418)
We still offer the 24' 36' and new 41 model'. We also did manufacture a few 38' years ago.

This new 2012 Pantera 41' just headed overseas. Came out awesome !

Regards,

JO
Holy shiz!!! That's the biz!

Jo, you're boy's getting big... and making it for the deliveries... :cool:

302Sport 08-11-2011 03:11 PM
how long ago did you build the 38's??? any pics??

JO - PANTERABOATS 08-11-2011 03:13 PM
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Stormrider, Little Jo is 5 1/2 now. I am showing him how to throttle and trim a Pantera just like my Father did with me when I was his age. Custom split engine hatches on the new 41' model.

JO

onesickpantera 08-11-2011 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3476418)
We still offer the 24' 36' and new 41 model'. We also did manufacture a few 38' years ago.

This new 2012 Pantera 41' just headed overseas. Came out awesome !

Regards,

JO
WOW that is a bad azz boat!

onesickpantera 08-11-2011 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3476400)
28 Pantera Staggered 525/Arneson setup......that boat would break a lot of big boats hearts
Yes it would! Even a couple 500hp aluminum small blocks hooked to Bravos would do pretty damn good!

JO - PANTERABOATS 08-11-2011 03:17 PM
302 Sport : I will see if I can find a few pics. A few were built in the early 1980s and a few more in the early to mid 1990s from the original Signature 38' molds.

JO

Chris 08-11-2011 03:37 PM
WOW! gorgeous Jo! how did it run with the 525's side by side?

Stormrider 08-11-2011 03:40 PM
Jo, can you post pics of the staggered 28s you've done?

DareDevil 08-11-2011 03:42 PM
fastest i know off...33 PP staggered 750HP IMCO on boxes ..over 110 MPH !
A HAND FULL !:lolhit:

onesickpantera 08-11-2011 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 3476460)
Jo, can you post pics of the staggered 28s you've done?
I didn't think they did any staggered 28s? I guess Jo will let us know for sure.

pullmytrigger 08-11-2011 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Indy (Post 3476241)
I'm skeptical of boat test reports especially if Reggie sets the boat up.
Haha!!:drink::drink:

PARADISE ISLAND 08-11-2011 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3476418)
We still offer the 24' 36' and new 41 model'. We also did manufacture a few 38' years ago.

This new 2012 Pantera 41' just headed overseas. Came out awesome !

Regards,

JO
Nice boat!:flag:

PARADISE ISLAND 08-11-2011 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by A.O. Razor (Post 3476271)
:chill-pill: dude.:angry-smiley-038:

What chris@uga said is 100% true. You loose about 3' with the beak and platform. Same goes with the platform on the Sunny, so that'll be about 34' for the 36' and 30' for the 32'. It's not badmouthing the Fountain, just info. If the O.P is talking "true" 30-33 feet of boat, this is info worth having and the 35 Lightning is within that lenght. Just stating fact, and I like Fountains.
Without the swim platform&beak the 35' is really a 33' but who cares 100mph with reliable power&you can tell the dock boy it's a 29':op::food-smiley-007:

JO - PANTERABOATS 08-11-2011 07:24 PM
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With a full length cabin and a side by side twin 525 EFI set up this 41' will run right at 85-86 MPH on GPS. It is a BIG 41' without the platform. Out in the ocean is where it really shows its true potential. We do offer it with a staggered engine set up ( unlimited HP ) and # 6 drives.


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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 3476455)
WOW! gorgeous Jo! how did it run with the 525's side by side?

JO - PANTERABOATS 08-11-2011 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 3476468)
I didn't think they did any staggered 28s? I guess Jo will let us know for sure.
We have not built a staggered engine 28' YET. Would like to do it with a pair of 600-650 HP small blocks. My Father and I have been talking about it for years.

JO

RaggedEdge 08-11-2011 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Beak Boater (Post 3474945)
Not sure who you are talking to about the ride in a Fountain. By your response, I can only assume you have not ridden in one.
Most performance V's do not jump on plane, some better some worse, high X's and large pitch props contribute to that.
Runs like dog****? one of the most efficient hulls going in any size. Compare speeds with equal power in same size boats. Fountains are usually as fast if not faster.
Poor manners at high speed? I have never had one of my Fountains do anything unpredicable at high speed.
Most people who ride in ours have never been over 100 mph on the water, usually their first remark is how stable the boat was, and didnt even feel like you were going that fast.
Many great manufacturers to chose from, few fit you needs, go water test yourself instead of relying on second hand information.
But since you own many faster, bigger boats, you probably all ready knew that.:drink::drink:

Well put. The Fountains I have had have been very predictable at speed. Though mine will not run past 100 it is near flawless up to and slightly past 90. Have been in the staggered version of this hull past 100 and it did not change the character one little bit. I have been in 35's from other manufacturers that I can not say the same for.

DareDevil 08-11-2011 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PARADISE ISLAND (Post 3476619)
Without the swim platform&beak the 35' is really a 33' but who cares 100mph with reliable power&you can tell the dock boy it's a 29':op::food-smiley-007:
actually a 35 fountain is a straight 31 HULL !!!!!

1 foot beak and 3 feet plattform = 4 !!!

BUT YES..very fast and good handling boats !

verytricky 08-13-2011 07:30 PM
Real offshore boat
 
This boat, from Banana Shark UK, is the dogs bollocks. ( that is a good thing - translated for the USA ) It is built in a single mould, and emerges as a completed deck and hull. As there is no join of deck and hull, it is lighter for the same strength. Stupidly light for the size of boat, it has space for twin 525's and this should easily get you the ton. It is also properly designed for real sea, not a pond boat.....

verytricky 08-13-2011 07:33 PM
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...une2011597.jpg

A.O. Razor 08-13-2011 07:55 PM
Those are the biggest steps I've ever seen.

bert4332 08-13-2011 11:52 PM
My Lavey Craft is a 29', listed as such, total length is 30' 5", so NOT ALL lie, but most!


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Originally Posted by Todd Hartigh (Post 3476279)
Actually, yes...kinda...

The old 32 running length minus the platform was just under 30' which is why they were able to run the F1 class.

The newer 32's are I beleive 3" longer ?. That is what allowed them to run in the F2 class. Also the new 32's are not 32', they are 31'-7".
They all lie!

Rik 08-14-2011 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by verytricky (Post 3477947)
This boat, from Banana Shark UK, is the dogs bollocks. ( that is a good thing - translated for the USA ) It is built in a single mould, and emerges as a completed deck and hull. As there is no join of deck and hull, it is lighter for the same strength. Stupidly light for the size of boat, it has space for twin 525's and this should easily get you the ton. It is also properly designed for real sea, not a pond boat.....
It runs really well too. What other boat 34' with a pair of 260hp 4 cylinder diesels can run 70 mph?

pullmytrigger 08-14-2011 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by verytricky (Post 3477947)
This boat, from Banana Shark UK, is the dogs bollocks. ( that is a good thing - translated for the USA ) It is built in a single mould, and emerges as a completed deck and hull. As there is no join of deck and hull, it is lighter for the same strength. Stupidly light for the size of boat, it has space for twin 525's and this should easily get you the ton. It is also properly designed for real sea, not a pond boat.....
how much is the open top pleasure version??...whats the cabin like??

PetterM 08-14-2011 01:15 PM
There are some pics of the open version in the build thread here:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...nce-racer.html

348SStb 08-18-2011 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3475433)
Yet you did not know what the acronym BBC stands for?

Something smells a little like a fish to me.

Just sayin'
No fish. I was using my iPhone while on a trip to Block Island and I wasn't decoding acronyms on the go. I'm fairly new around here and I haven't yet dispensed with my tendency to write in complete sentences without abbreviations.

verytricky 08-19-2011 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pullmytrigger (Post 3478318)
how much is the open top pleasure version??...whats the cabin like??
You will have to phone/email and ask.

They are guys you build and race their own boats. They won the UK championship a few years ago, and set a UK speed record in the boat they designed.

They also fixed my V24 when it kept breaking, and it never broke again after their fix, which is the main reason why I plug them.

They also did the redesign on my BladeRunner multihull - I changed the tunnel and added a step to the boat. This has stood up to some quite rough testing, so I am very confident in their build quality.

I dont think they 'fit out' the cabin - they would sub contract that - or even ship it bare hull so you could fit it out in the US. You guys are generally better at that anyway, and have a different 'taste'. What you should go for is the design and structure of this boat, and fill in the blan
ks in the USA.

pullmytrigger 08-19-2011 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by verytricky (Post 3483575)
You will have to phone/email and ask.

They are guys you build and race their own boats. They won the UK championship a few years ago, and set a UK speed record in the boat they designed.

They also fixed my V24 when it kept breaking, and it never broke again after their fix, which is the main reason why I plug them.

They also did the redesign on my BladeRunner multihull - I changed the tunnel and added a step to the boat. This has stood up to some quite rough testing, so I am very confident in their build quality.

I dont think they 'fit out' the cabin - they would sub contract that - or even ship it bare hull so you could fit it out in the US. You guys are generally better at that anyway, and have a different 'taste'. What you should go for is the design and structure of this boat, and fill in the blan
ks in the USA.
The reason I asked that is because the number one item on the original posters list of requirements was it had to be a pleasure boat......#1

Steve 1 08-19-2011 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3476632)
With a full length cabin and a side by side twin 525 EFI set up this 41' will run right at 85-86 MPH on GPS. It is a BIG 41' without the platform. Out in the ocean is where it really shows its true potential. We do offer it with a staggered engine set up ( unlimited HP ) and # 6 drives.

Pepe and JO ,The Boat looks great!

Crossett 08-19-2011 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 348SStb (Post 3482194)
No fish. I was using my iPhone while on a trip to Block Island and I wasn't decoding acronyms on the go. I'm fairly new around here and I haven't yet dispensed with my tendency to write in complete sentences without abbreviations.
BBC, SBC, BBF, SBF, etc

Any speed enthusiast in the past 50 years should know what those are acronyms for.

The other suspicious statement of yours is that "you don't understand why a 120 mph boat should cost 300k."

A.O. Razor 08-19-2011 09:09 PM
Who is here from Banana Shark? Got questions. Shoot me a pm.

cookee 08-20-2011 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pullmytrigger (Post 3483718)
The reason I asked that is because the number one item on the original posters list of requirements was it had to be a pleasure boat......#1
The boat was designed from the beginning as a race boat - it originally started life as a project for a customer which was for a 30' single V8 full canopy two seater and after testing the hull we changed it for our requirements and we are very happy with the results.

Any boat can be made for leisure use and we would always recommend an open version rather than the 3/4 canopy for ease of use. The cabin is small (7'4" beam) but quite usable and can be fitted out to any specification - each boat is made to order.

A.O Razor you have a PM!

Sunsation0032 08-26-2011 11:13 PM
My next boat will have staggered engines for ease of repair. Having to remove exhaust parts just to replace a spark plug is not my idea of fun. A 5 minute job on a staggered takes 3 hours on mine

custom29scarab 08-27-2011 06:22 AM
I'll second that! Oh and starters have been know to go as well. Thats a pull in a side by side. 30 min on a staggered boat. Not really sure I believe the performance claims either. I would have never thought that in a big heavy AT lowering the COG and bringing the props closer together to increase efficiency wouldn't make a difference.

Dr Ralphy 08-27-2011 08:12 AM
You could buy my Scarab 33 AVS, it is so smooth you could play marbles on the floor at 70mph. A few more dollars in HP and you could do 100mph... The marbles might blow away at that point but the chicks would still be there.

Jassman 08-27-2011 08:16 AM
I still say 33 AT.. and Ill take one with a 725 Ilmor/Indy package...:drink:

wrinkleface 08-27-2011 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 3489585)
I still say 33 AT.. and Ill take one with a 725 Ilmor/Indy package...:drink:
blah blah blo!!!!!:grinser010:

PARADISE ISLAND 08-27-2011 09:15 AM
Volicity had some big speeds don't know if fastest but up there:confused:I think I spelt it wrong:lolhit:Velocity?


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