looking for the fastest 30-33 foot twin-engine vee-hull
 

I am wondering what everyone's thoughts are about this.

Here are my criteria:

1) new pleasure boat
2) twin engine deep vee-hull
3) staggered engine configuration
4) preferably a custom boat
5) 30-33 feet only
6) fairly new and advanced step design
7) 100-120mph top speed on Merc 525s or Merc 700SCis
8) very stable ride at 100 mph - rides flat
9) high build quality boat

That's really all I want!! :)

When I say high build quality unfortunately we have to leave out some of the big names of the past whose products went into the toilet.

I have been considering the following:

1) Howard 28 Bullet (great bottom, too bad it's a single engine)
2) Hustler 29 Rockit (great bottom, too bad it's a single engine)
3) Laveycraft 32 Nuera (I know nothing about their bottom design)
4) Hallett 300-T or 335-T (I know nothing about their bottom design)

I am unaware of all my options - I'm looking for additional options.

I'm also looking for a discussion that compares these bottom designs to each other and to other manufacturer's bottom designs that fit the high-speed stability criterion.

All thoughts and input appreciated!

You might want to get a bigger boat or knock the speed to below 100. Jo

Pretty easy answer , you should probably look at the Sunsation 32 XXR, the guys at Sunsation already have this boat running at over 100mph and the design, look and build quality speak for themselves.

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

the sunsation 32 is not a staggered boat but it should run tripple digits with 600+hp per side:evilb:

Deep offshore boat..that does not hit 100mph with 525's..but will hit 93mph..also does not come staggered....big 33' boat with the same size cockpit as their 37.. Good Luck.

33 Active Thunder

Not going to find many staggerred boats in that range.

The Hustler 344 Cheetah is really 32-33' plus the molded in swim platform. It was run 95-96 with 525's.

Donzi 35 ZX - 94 MPH with 525's. 33' boat with 2 foot molded platform.

Like Jassman said, the 33 AT is a good option as well, but it will be a much bigger boat.

Sunsation 32 will run 97 with 525's. 30.5 foot boat plus the platform.

If Rage Powerboats, formerly Activator, revives the 32, it's a fast boat with twin engines. I know they're side-by-side, but on a boat of that size, staggering the motors is really going to eat up cockpit space, making your passenger area quite small.

We would entertain building one with Ilmors!

Only staggered boat in that range is the Fountain 33 Lightning (i think). Not too many of them on the market.

Sounds like the Sunsation would be the fastest boat in this size range with 525s.

Can anyone shed some light on Sunsation's bottom design and how it handles at high speed?

What about the Laveycraft Nuera 29 or 32?

They started building the newer step bottom 32' Sunsations in 2006 I believe....last year they built one with Merc. 600 SCI's and most recently built one this year with Merc. 700 SCI's with the NXT Drives....it has run 114 on GPS and from what I understand handles well. Call Joe at the factory and he can fill you in.

I find it interesting that the heavy Fountain 35 Lightning with [staggered] 525s seems to be the fastest boat in any size class with 525s (101 miles/hour) -- faster than any smaller, lighter twin-engine vee-hull with twin 525s.

As many will soon point out, the 35 Fountain is really a 32 foot boat.

Right. Nose extension and swim platform. I'm all over it :D

The 35 Fountain is staggered from 2007 on IIRC, but better double check on that date to be sure. There is no easier way to get to 100 in a v-hull of decent size that I know of.

So what if it has a cabin the size of most boats 33's, thats what you were looking for in the first place.

The Fountain and the Sunsation are very similar, neither has a ton of freeboard and both have integrated swim platforms, except the Fountain is slightly faster. I love the lines on the 35 Fountain also, its what I plan to try to talk my wife into for next year lol

While I realize I should take a ride in the boat, every time I ask someone whose ridden in a Fountain lightning, I'm told it runs like dogsh*t. Poor manners at high speed, a pig to plane off, etc. Not to get off topic - I thought I'd just mention it.

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So what if it has a cabin the size of most boats 23's, thats what you were looking for in the first place.

There. Fixed that for ya...:grinser010:

Take a look at powerboats tests of the Lavey 32 with the Teague engines in it.

Thing accelerated like a drag boat and posted huge top end as well 110+.

There is a finished 32 hull complete with no engines in the shop right now. I wish I had the space for it.



Uncle Dave

Agree with UD here. Lavey built 2 32s with TCM 800s and both ran over 110. They also built a 29 with twin 600 Mercs that I believe went 105 but not sure.

Next to that, my choice would be the Active Thunder. Their 33 would run over 100 with 700s/NXTs or Ilmor 710/Indy.

No staggered boats in that size range that I know of unless you go with a 35 Fountain.

Good Luck!

That was with Bravos as well.

Ilmor lets Teague sell the indy coupled with the 800.
That oughta haul the mail pretty well and last forever.


UD

If you really want a 100+ MPH boat, I would go bigger that 30 feet (swim platform and beak don't count). You won't likely see 100 MPH in a 30' vee in anything more 6"-1' water. A much better high MPH value would be a used Fountain 38' ex-raceboat. Probable $40,000 to make it like new. There are not many 30-38' vee's on OSO that would run with you. Maybe Reggie would restore one....
Ben

Thanks.

But the catch is that I've got a few other very fast boats, of which one is very large; and for this project I'm actually looking for a smaller boat that is portable that I can take around with me on a trailer without too much hassle. But I need to go fast. The cutoff is probably 32 feet before trailering becomes a headache.

its not staggered but the Frisini(formerly Adrenaline) vendetta fits all your other requirements.

That's a sit-down boat right?

We can do a staggered configuration in our 33ft boat. Our line is NRG Boats. (Nautical Racing Group LLC.) Located at LOTO.

And we can meet all your other needs.

I"ll give ya 1 guess where that hull derived from. :D

No idea.

34 Phantom. Perfect for all occasions. Speed, Handling, Calm and Rough Water, Sit Down, and Center Steering.

I think you can order the Sunsation 32 as a stagger too. You are just getting less cocpit space.

If you really want a 120+ on 700-725 hp motors. Buy an Outerlimits 40SV.

'Twas an older (straight-bottom) Active Thunder mold that was sold to Adrenaline; to which they added steps to form that hull.

I dont really mind less cockpit space... I just need it to be a stand-up boat. Didn't put that in the criteria because I imagined at this size range that would have been implicit.

Can anyone shed some light on the Sunsation's bottom design?

28TS Pantera w/ Stagger Blown SBCs(700hp a side) 3 Man Bolster configuration.
Easy trailer boat too.

They could do a BBC too, i believe they have.

Sorry for not being up on the offshore lingo... What does BBC mean? What does the British news channel have to do with any of this? ;)

Big Block Chevy

Did you mean twin bh block chevy's staggered or a single big block?

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Call Joe at the factory (810) 794-4888. I'm sure he will be more than happy to answer your questions. I know they switched to a double step in 2006 and added a small pad around 2008.

Not sure who you are talking to about the ride in a Fountain. By your response, I can only assume you have not ridden in one.
Most performance V's do not jump on plane, some better some worse, high X's and large pitch props contribute to that.
Runs like dog****? one of the most efficient hulls going in any size. Compare speeds with equal power in same size boats. Fountains are usually as fast if not faster.
Poor manners at high speed? I have never had one of my Fountains do anything unpredicable at high speed.
Most people who ride in ours have never been over 100 mph on the water, usually their first remark is how stable the boat was, and didnt even feel like you were going that fast.
Many great manufacturers to chose from, few fit you needs, go water test yourself instead of relying on second hand information.
But since you own many faster, bigger boats, you probably all ready knew that.:drink::drink:

I said that I haven't ridden in a Lightning.

I've ridden in plenty of older fountains in the early 90s which obviously cannot compare.

I own several skaters and also a large vee-bottom powerboat. I know speed. I take what others say into consideration and when I repeat it, I repeat it in the manner in which I did here - I state that I am repeating what I am told.

We do a mono 33'10" from the tip of the bow to the transom although with the bustle it's a bit longer - 525's or Ilmor's with your choice of drives - full cockpit or open with a screen, no problem doing the stagger either.

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We only build race boats or race boats for leisure use and although we're a little bit further away from you than the competition you wouldn't see many like it!