419 not a bad deal...
 

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not too bad if it checks out right...

how much you guys think it is worth, today, considering triple in this fragile economy?

There is another one in OSO classified, same year, but EFI 500's instead of carbed...

what would beyour bet?

Came from National this spring. I had it in contract at 50k but backed out on the thought of trips.

so this guy might have had it for 50 something then... did you have it checked? survey? compression?

motors are at the end of their useful life.

Count on complete rebuilds. Probably new headers, too.

Will need $50 K to keep running

300 hours, end of usefull life?

lot of boat for the money. Just depends on how it was treated for the last decade. Could be problems, or could be fine.

Easily transformed into a bigger powered side ny side twin, and probably be faster.

Depends on how they were maintained. Top ends at least IMO

I thought it was 450. That's what my 1999 382 with 500 EFI's had before needing rebuilds and headers. And that was after new valve springs at 200 hours.

YOU GUYS ARE J OFFS???? I HAVE BEEN THAT BOAT>>>>:party-smiley-004: IT DONT NEED **** RUNS GOOD TWO WEEKS AGO :lolhit:

Thanks for looking at my boat guys.

LOL! Life is funny is'nt it ?

Interesting number to throw out there. I'd find another machine shop if I were you if it's going to cost $50k to rebuild 3 HP500's.

I thought it was very fair priced as well. I'm just making room for the next one.

It probably needs minor valve work and not rebuilds.

I've seen the 419 in brick... immaculate, EFI... just too high for this market...

Yours is carbed... not that they are bad engines! I just wished my next boat was EFI...

I've had both versions of these engines. EFI is nice, but the carbs have been doing fine.

Three motors

Three drives

Three sets of CMI headers

My number is probably low

I don't know about "easily". I'm not 100% sure of the structure of 419's, but I think that you'd be looking at a lot of stringer work, not "just" filling and re-cutting the transom.

Yep....+1

Whats up with the head liner? Looks nice otherwise

Triple engines should last much longer before rebuild, same with the drives. Either way lots of coin.

They fall on the older ones....

My 382 had the same problem. Bad foam backing.

Formula provided new material gratis, but labor was expensive, as I recall.

Headers are gettin close for sure! That bill alone will be 10K at least.....

It is LOW!!!!! :)

I re-did my 382, and have some material left over, if anyone buys this boat. The job is somewhat time-consuming, but you can get the panels out and back in with some effort.

Engines were all that you had a clear emphasis on earlier. This boat has the high flow Mercruiser manifolds on it and not the CMI headers. You can look at it however you choose to look at it. It doesn't need all that work done to it. I know figures can vary from place to place. I can certainly get a quality job done for far less than $50k if all that ever needed to be rebuilt.

That's what it appeared to be. I have an upholstery guy that said he could fix it. Only problem is that his current shop is not large enough to fit it in there. He could do it outside I suppose.

Actually, I said motors and headers, and I've always done the drives when doing the motors.

And yes, you could probably get by with just doing the top ends on the motors, and run the drives until they pop.

Just trying to help some poor sole get an idea of the REAL cost of performance boating. For me, at least, the cost was NEVER less than what I estimated. On the Formula, I never imagined that I'd have to replace the headers, buy new drives, rebuild engines, install new headliner, etc, but I did.

I know CMI's have a bad reputation for leaking. I can see the reasoning behind wanting to replace them. They can be tested/checked for leaks if you didn't want to spend the $$ on a brand new set. I'm sure the manifolds that are on mine could be pressure tested.

I'm with you on unexpected repairs. I've had enough boats over the year to know how that goes. I've had enough experience as well to know what the "REAL cost of performance boating" is as well.

If any of us could comprehend this concept, we'd be talking in a car forum! :drink:

no you guys are all jack offs buy a new one?????? ..I rode in it ..its one nice boat.... get a job??? and get off oso ????:bsflag:

Gill Manifolds also had issues with corrosion and also Reversion issues I read in an article authored by Bob Teague.

I had Gills on a previous boat, and they were going to need replacement.

I currently have 3 sets of CMI's on my 45 with no problems ( not a 525 boat ), and I love my Tripple Engines, would never go back to twins. A little more more cost maintainence wise, but I like the other benefits having tripps provides.

ITS SOLD :lolhit:

so redrocket? sold the boat or not?

wtf yes went to loto :lolhit:

Thats a fact. A lot of my friends are more impressed by the vette in my garage than the boat. Then they get a blank look on their faces when I tell them sports cars are CHEAP compared to the boat.

I was also wondering if the Formula sold. Looks like a nice boat.

Thanks

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