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smallblock 09-10-2011 05:00 PM

NY race sucks
 
NY Race sucked ass...left 5 am to get there ..got to the race to find race underway..with 2 laps left..and nothing going on after race ..what a waste of a day & i just got home ....never do a hudson river NY again ..every other race i been to was kool but NY sucked...met scott & crew from team daredevil very kool peeps congradss to todays winners

nitrousnolan 09-10-2011 05:43 PM

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frankenstein 09-11-2011 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by smallblock (Post 3500542)
NY Race sucked ass...left 5 am to get there ..got to the race to find race underway..with 2 laps left..and nothing going on after race ..what a waste of a day & i just got home ....never do a hudson river NY again ..every other race i been to was kool but NY sucked...met scott & crew from team daredevil very kool peeps congradss to todays winners

It really doesn't matter what time you left for the race, it's more important what time you actually got there. If I got to the Daytona 500 with a couple of laps left, that wouldn't actually mean the Daytona 500 sucked. I think that other things might be going on in the Hudson now, and making sure you were "happy" for the race is probably not a priority. It's unfortunate you had a bad experience in NY, I hope you can put it behind you. Speaking of bad experiences, my cousin got married at Annopolis, in the officers club. My NY family took the drive to attend. What a freekin joke. These Maryland locals were telling me that this was a high class, top notch wedding. My lunch in Junior High School blew away anything that this dump had to offer, and I had to buy my own beers. Now that's ridiculous. I guess my point is, try not to let one bad experience destroy your entire feelings towards a state (city). Life is too short to worry about the small sh@t. Godspeed

jayboat 09-11-2011 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by frankenstein (Post 3500721)
It really doesn't matter what time you left for the race, it's more important what time you actually got there. If I got to the Daytona 500 with a couple of laps left, that wouldn't actually mean the Daytona 500 sucked. I think that other things might be going on in the Hudson now, and making sure you were "happy" for the race is probably not a priority. It's unfortunate you had a bad experience in NY, I hope you can put it behind you. Speaking of bad experiences, my cousin got married at Annopolis, in the officers club. My NY family took the drive to attend. What a freekin joke. These Maryland locals were telling me that this was a high class, top notch wedding. My lunch in Junior High School blew away anything that this dump had to offer, and I had to buy my own beers. Now that's ridiculous. I guess my point is, try not to let one bad experience destroy your entire feelings towards a state (city). Life is too short to worry about the small sh@t. Godspeed

Well said. :drink:

ROTAX454 09-11-2011 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by frankenstein (Post 3500721)
Speaking of bad experiences, my cousin got married at Annopolis, in the officers club. My NY family took the drive to attend. What a freekin joke. These Maryland locals were telling me that this was a high class, top notch wedding. My lunch in Junior High School blew away anything that this dump had to offer, and I had to buy my own beers. Now that's ridiculous. I guess my point is, try not to let one bad experience destroy your entire feelings towards a state (city). Life is too short to worry about the small sh@t. Godspeed

WOW You had to pay cash for drinks? At a wedding?
Where are the grooms parents? Sounds like the grooms fathers wallet was stuck in his back pocket. Geeeeeez. Hope you waited to fill out that wedding gift check!!

Catastrophe 09-11-2011 09:25 AM

It really doesn't matter what time you left for the race, it's more important what time you actually got there.

Sums it up in one sentence.

Panther 09-11-2011 09:38 AM

But didn't they have to rearrange the entire race because of the elevated terror threat? There were bomb scares and 4 known trucks missing.

I believe they were ordered to be on the course at a certain time in the morning and had to be off quickly, trucks packed and off the property ASAP.

Get the facts, blame it on the terrorists, not the race. TYPICAL.....

BRUCE SEROFF 09-11-2011 11:21 AM

because of all the events surrounding 911, race was scheduled for 9am. and race and all boats had to be out of Lib State Park around 11. If you would have checked the SBI site you would have seen the schedule.

offshoredrillin 09-11-2011 12:04 PM

He lost me at daredevil being cool..ugh...

Catastrophe 09-11-2011 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3500924)
He lost me at daredevil being cool..ugh...

Good one ! I couldnt figure out how to word what you just said.

Question though...................The security arrangements for todays events have been known for months and months.

Given that the public would find it odd to watch a race at 9am on any day and given that the dedicated SBI guys are travelling some distances and given that the afterparty and chillin on the docks is part of the weekend.................why would this race even be held under the existing restrictions??

bobo 09-11-2011 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3500928)
Good one ! I couldnt figure out how to word what you just said.

Question though...................The security arrangements for todays events have been known for months and months.

Given that the public would find it odd to watch a race at 9am on any day and given that the dedicated SBI guys are travelling some distances and given that the afterparty and chillin on the docks is part of the weekend.................why would this race even be held under the existing restrictions??

Showing up consistently is what keeps sites alive I would think . We need more of that thinking in our sport . :drink:

Catastrophe 09-11-2011 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by bobo (Post 3500945)
Showing up consistently is what keeps sites alive I would think . We need more of that thinking in our sport . :drink:

I agree with that 100%. No argument.

But it would have been CONSISTENT if it were 1 Saturday either before or after the special weekend.

These races are an EVENT which includes the comraderie/holiday for the spouses/chillin with the other teams etc. etc.
To have to pack up and leave asap just seems to defeat part of what an EVENT should be.

No biggie.....just feel bad for the guys that drag a team to a race from any long distance.

I'm glad they had good weather at least.

ROTAX454 09-11-2011 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF (Post 3500901)
because of all the events surrounding 911, race was scheduled for 9am. and race and all boats had to be out of Lib State Park around 11. If you would have checked the SBI site you would have seen the schedule.

Question is: When did the SBI officials get notification from the City (or some authority) that the Park had to be cleared of all personnel and equipment by 11am?

SHARKEY-IMAGES 09-11-2011 03:39 PM

Small Block,

I see you have been a member here for a little over a year now, but perhaps had you looked into this particular event's history it has been averaging less than 12 boats for many years now. They had a little spike this year due to several teams that race OPA offered to come to the event.

So, I am not sure what you were really expecting when you got there. I have covered the event in years past for the sake I had nothing else to do on that day. Last year I arrived 1/2 hour after the scheduled start of 12 PM knowing how rare it is to ever start on time. I literally rolled up at 12:30 asked the Valet to keep the truck out front and told them I would not be more than and hour. I was back in my truck in less than an hour and on my way home. A new record for me in covering an event, but at least I picked up a new advertiser and additional work by doing so. Probably the 1st time in all these years it paid off to even go. :drink:

cdowns 09-11-2011 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3500924)
He lost me at daredevil being cool..ugh...

LMFAO.... Thats funny sheet.....:lolhit:

PARADISE ISLAND 09-11-2011 03:46 PM

Sad sounds like it did suck!?Before&After makes the event!:musik010:

SHARKEY-IMAGES 09-11-2011 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3500928)

Question though...................The security arrangements for todays events have been known for months and months.

Given that the public would find it odd to watch a race at 9am on any day and given that the dedicated SBI guys are travelling some distances and given that the afterparty and chillin on the docks is part of the weekend.................why would this race even be held under the existing restrictions??

Alec,

The real question is, with the over all history of the lack of support from the SBI racers to even come to this event, the lack of spectators or promotion of the event, why would someone go through so much effort to keep a site going ??? :confused:

I realize they wanted to try and make the race "SPECIAL" for 911, but it seems it was more of a Security nightmare and additional headache for law enforcement and everyone else involved from what I have been hearing. After all, the Coast Guard was holding their ceremonies on the Aircraft Carrier starting at 10 AM that same morning which meant an overlap of the race boats by 1/2 hour while speeches were being given...

Can anyone tell us what SBI had done to honor the 911 Anniversary ???

F1-00 Racing 09-11-2011 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by SHARKEY-IMAGES (Post 3501028)

Can anyone tell us what SBI had done to honor the 911 Anniversary ???

Tim,

I would love to tell you however with all the security measures and restrictions, we are not allowed to tell you.

On a serious note, thank you to SBI for properly informing us and keeping us up to date as to what we needed to do and where to be. It made getting through the security easier for them and for us. Thanks to Jeff and Dee for being there to cover this event.

Trent

Dont know where the getting the boats out of there by 11am came from, maybe off the race course, but we stayed until approx 2-3pm in the pits and after we left there was still 5-6 boats there

Lucididee 09-11-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by smallblock (Post 3500542)
NY Race sucked ass...left 5 am to get there ..got to the race to find race underway..with 2 laps left..and nothing going on after race ..what a waste of a day & i just got home ....never do a hudson river NY again ..every other race i been to was kool but NY sucked...met scott & crew from team daredevil very kool peeps congradss to todays winners

I understand that you drove up from MD and it was a long ride, but did you check the website to see that the race started @ 9am?

http://superboat.com/21st-annual-new...ribute-to-911/

Lucididee 09-11-2011 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by SHARKEY-IMAGES (Post 3501028)
I realize they wanted to try and make the race "SPECIAL" for 911, but it seems it was more of a Security nightmare and additional headache for law enforcement and everyone else involved from what I have been hearing. After all, the Coast Guard was holding their ceremonies on the Aircraft Carrier starting at 10 AM that same morning which meant an overlap of the race boats by 1/2 hour while speeches were being given...
?

Everything went smoothly. Yes, due to the fact that Governor Christie was at Liberty landing park for the dedication of the “Empty Sky Memorial”. http://woodbridge.patch.com/articles...#photo-7707433 The Homeland Security restrictions at the park was for Christie & the “Empty Sky Memorial”, we were lucky enough due to the long history of this race to be allowed to have it. Many racers who do not normally attend the NYC race attended this year. This SBI race now has a 20+ year tradition of having this race the weekend after Labor Day.

Lucididee 09-11-2011 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by ROTAX454 (Post 3500962)
Question is: When did the SBI officials get notification from the City (or some authority) that the Park had to be cleared of all personnel and equipment by 11am?

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The park DID NOT have to be cleared by 11am. I do not know where this information came from. The park WAS NOT open to the public until after Gov Christie left. Yes it was a little of an inconvenience for those that usually watch the race at the end of the park, but there are plenty of places to view the race on the Hudson River. As a matter of fact, Hoboken & Exchange Place offer better viewing of the race course.

F1-00 Racing 09-11-2011 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Lucididee (Post 3501089)
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The park DID NOT have to be cleared by 11am. I do not know where this information came from. .

Someone by the screen name "Bruce Seroff" posted this MIS-information earlier in the thread.

Lee 09-11-2011 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3500924)
He lost me at daredevil being cool..ugh...

An obvious error, I'm sure he meant to type "Tool"

BRUCE SEROFF 09-11-2011 07:43 PM

yes yes ...it was i . guilty as charged. I should have known better. someone had mentioned it to me. I assumed it to be true because of all the events this weekend. thanks for the clarification though. Im glad a proffessional racer chimed in to set the facts straight.

bobo 09-11-2011 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by SHARKEY-IMAGES (Post 3501019)
Small Block,

. They had a little spike this year due to several teams that race OPA offered to come to the event.
. :drink:

Thank Fully They all showed up Huh Tim ? LOL :lolhit::party-smiley-004:

:

It,s all good timmy Chill , an, do what you are good at ,
Takin, Pic,s Which I personally have enjoyed for years Thank you .

Lucididee 09-11-2011 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF (Post 3501159)
yes yes ...it was i . guilty as charged. I should have known better. someone had mentioned it to me. I assumed it to be true because of all the events this weekend. thanks for the clarification though. Im glad a proffessional racer chimed in to set the facts straight.

The rumors about things that were going on was quite comical. After being in the pits for about 15 mins on Saturday morning and having to go through the the dogs sniffing for bombs, I got a call asking about the cars getting x-rayed. But to clarify, the only thing that was going to be shut down in the park was the crane at 10:45am and not accessible until after the governor left. But once Homeland Security realized that the noise from the crane would not interfere with the “Empty Sky Memorial” ceremony, the crane would not be shut down. But yes, the Hudson River was shut down to river traffic during the race as it is every year

SHARKEY-IMAGES 09-11-2011 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by F1-00 Racing (Post 3501071)
Tim,

I would love to tell you however with all the security measures and restrictions, we are not allowed to tell you.

I will be sure to look for it on the 11 o'clock News .... :drink:

SHARKEY-IMAGES 09-11-2011 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by Lucididee (Post 3501086)
Everything went smoothly.

Happy to hear for all involved... :)

After reading this post below, I would be surprised if anyone made it out of there and back without hitting something and causing some kind of damage.... :eek:

Did any of the race boats come back with damage or were they just as lucky as these pleasure boaters that went out to pay their respects... ?


Originally Posted by nordic95 (Post 3501078)
I just wanted to say Thank You to those who came out today to brave the debris fields and pay our repects to the victims of 9-11. In the 25 years of boating on the Hudson

I have never seen this much debris, there was anything and everything from shoes, trees, pumpkins, propane tanks, 55 gallon drums, tires, floating docks, etc....


Lucididee 09-11-2011 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by SHARKEY-IMAGES (Post 3501208)
Happy to hear for all involved... :)

After reading this post below, I would be surprised if anyone made it out of there and back without hitting something and causing some kind of damage.... :eek:

Did any of the race boats come back with damage or were they just as lucky as these pleasure boaters that went out to pay their respects... ?

Looks like Cintron got the worst of it with a prop & rudder damage. One other teams will have to replace a prop & a few others have prop dings. All in all, it wasn't was bad as it could have been. But we all know it par for course on the Hudson. All my years of boating from Sandy Hook & up the Hudson, there has always been debris. Yes, there was a little more than normal out there, the shocking part was how brown the water was from all the flooding up north. Once they open the Erie canal & the locks there is going to be sooooooooooo much more debris floating down that river from Upstate NY, Vermont, etc. out to the ocean. Thank you Irene :angry-smiley-038:

SHARKEY-IMAGES 09-11-2011 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Lucididee (Post 3501218)
Looks like Cintron got the worst of it with a prop & rudder damage.

OUCH !!! :eek: That's got to be about 25 to 30 thousand dollars worth of damage !!!

I hope they won at least ???

They can use the prize money to cover the shipping charges for the damaged parts.... :drink:

I am trying to make Md.

Cya there !

Lucididee 09-11-2011 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by SHARKEY-IMAGES (Post 3501222)
OUCH !!! :eek: That's got to be about 25 to 30 thousand dollars worth of damage !!!

I hope they won at least ???

They can use the prize money to cover the shipping charges for the damaged parts.... :drink:

I am trying to make Md.

Cya there !

Hope to c ya in MD.

It's good to see that Brian made a run to NYC today. I'm gonna assume he came out of the sound & down the East River.

SHARKEY-IMAGES 09-11-2011 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by bobo (Post 3501173)
Thank Fully They all showed up Huh Tim ? LOL :lolhit::party-smiley-004: It,s all good timmy Chill , an, do what you are good at ,
Takin, Pic,s Which I personally have enjoyed for years Thank you .

Correct !
Quite surprised myself after the cross support shown for the OPA's Sunny Isles Race last June.

IT IS WHAT IT IS and I think I finally come to the conclusion that nothing in this sport will ever change ... Sad but true... :)

290enticer 09-11-2011 10:38 PM

Your Bad experience??? you don't think that NEW YORKERS HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE!! and its 9-11. aaww, lets all boo-hoo cause you had a bad experience...get a life!

Panther 09-12-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucididee (Post 3501218)
Looks like Cintron got the worst of it with a prop & rudder damage. One other teams will have to replace a prop & a few others have prop dings. All in all, it wasn't was bad as it could have been. But we all know it par for course on the Hudson. All my years of boating from Sandy Hook & up the Hudson, there has always been debris. Yes, there was a little more than normal out there, the shocking part was how brown the water was from all the flooding up north. Once they open the Erie canal & the locks there is going to be sooooooooooo much more debris floating down that river from Upstate NY, Vermont, etc. out to the ocean. Thank you Irene :angry-smiley-038:

I think John hit a dead horse in his Spectre years ago and that wasn't after a storm. :eek:

I guess the horse got too close to the bank that day! :grinser010:

Here's what the Chesapeak looked like 50 miles south of where I live. good thing they modified our course for the poker run!

innerrage 09-12-2011 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3500924)
He lost me at daredevil being cool..ugh...

me to,who did he steal,cheat and lie too

Lucididee 09-12-2011 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3501641)
I think John hit a dead horse in his Spectre years ago and that wasn't after a storm. :eek:

I guess the horse got too close to the bank that day! :grinser010:

Here's what the Chesapeak looked like 50 miles south of where I live. good thing they modified our course for the poker run!

Holly Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There was less on the Hudson

bwd 09-12-2011 03:55 PM

I thought I heard there were 12 or so boats there. Was that the big boats or does that include the smaller production classes too? p3 4 5?

bobo 09-12-2011 04:09 PM

:party-smiley-004:[

Lucididee 09-12-2011 04:32 PM

F1-00 Racing was at the NY Race


Keep in mind when looking at the production classes, some of the boats are not competitive in both sanctioning bodies. And keep in mind OPA's last regular season race should have been in Long Island (Thank you Irene), On Sept 25th is the OPA National title race, this is an SBI last regular season race with their National title race in Clearwater on October 2. The teams need to look at their points and figure out which is best for them, it's all about the finances and what can be afforded. We had BOTH our OPA & SBI boat at the NY race but only raced the Fountain & not the Formula. We cannot afford to race the Formula in NY and risk ripping of a drive, damaging a prop, blowing up a motor, etc with the National Championship and overall High point Championship on the line. And keep in mind. We all know that the SBI Key West World Championships is in November but the OPA World Championships is October 6-9.

Lucididee 09-12-2011 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by bwd (Post 3501746)
I thought I heard there were 12 or so boats there. Was that the big boats or does that include the smaller production classes too? p3 4 5?

Total Boat count was 17

Cintron
Gasse
Two Cocks Fighting Apparel
Instigator
Stihl
Loriblu
Absolutely Not
Octane
Twisted Metal
Cleveland Construction
Sheds Plus
Team Kilt
Immaculata Mighty macs
Team Velocity
Peters & May
Dare Devil
Country Service


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