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ICDEDPPL 09-30-2011 05:29 PM

Taking boat off trailer
 
I have this problem:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/22e96851.jpg

Instead of storage I would like to keep the boat at home to do some minor work during the winter.


I`ve done all the googling I can and most folks that have done it own all smaller boats.
Is taking the trailer out from under and then having it on blocks and stands all winter a good idea? I have these nightmares about the making a hole in the boat jacking it up.

I`ve thought about a gantry crane....

I`ve thought about moving the bow stop get the boat further up the trailer..
Removing the trailer would give me the most room thou..

thoughts?

p.s. the redneck "box" I`ve made for the front of the trailer looks too red neck

prostock85 09-30-2011 05:33 PM

My boss has a piece of ply cut to fit trailer perfectly and painted to match the garage that's bolted on both sides. Disconnect power to door opener. Its actually hard to notice, but then again its a white door and white trailer.

jeff32 09-30-2011 05:55 PM

easy but not in 5 minutes.... make sure you can put blocks, stand or whatever else to support the hull at transom one on each side. You might have to back your trailer in water, and make your boat going back on trailer until you can have 8 inches clear to put the support... once that is done, back off in your garage, take the trailer off of your truck. lower at the lowest point you can the front of the trailer, in order to have the back of the boat as high as possible. put your support in the back of the boat. then, raise as high as possible the front of trailer. put your support in front of the boat usually at least under or forward the windshield. lower the front of trailer, your good to go! well, maybe only for 2 or 3 feet until your trailer touches the front support. once there, just use a simple floor jack, just enough to lift the boat like half inche, change your front support either a little forward or bacward, lower the floor jack, move trailer forward till it's out!

might take 30 minutes to do. use wood 6x6 instead of concrete blocks, since they may sometimes crack and split... could be dangerous...

pretty simple honnestly, once you've done it once..

have fun! take pictures!

jeff32 09-30-2011 05:57 PM

always use piece of wood on your floor jack to make sure metal does not damage gelcoat

JRider 09-30-2011 06:05 PM

Why dont you pull your drive off? Maybe you can pull the tongue off as well. I know you can have a swing tongue made, but I would imagine it would cost some money. Just throwin some ideas out

H20 Toie 09-30-2011 06:15 PM

removable tongue
easy and clean

PhantomChaos 09-30-2011 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 3516934)
Why dont you pull your drive off?

Great idea! Service it yourself at the same time! Take a pic of the back of the boat.

PhantomChaos 09-30-2011 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by h20 toie (Post 3516939)
removable tongue
easy and clean

I wish my old girlfriend had that feature..... :drink::drink::drink::drink::drink:

mikebrls 09-30-2011 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by h20 toie (Post 3516939)
removable tongue
easy and clean

or swing away :)

seafordguy 09-30-2011 07:26 PM

My dad jacked his wellcraft recently with a bunch of bottle jacks he bought from Harbor Freight - worked GREAT!!

ICDEDPPL 09-30-2011 07:40 PM

I'll take some pics. Of the tongue...at the point where it would need to swing there's 3 beams that come together, not sure if that can be done.

Taking off two drives and a swim platform, I didn't want to do that twice a year...

Jeff that's a great description, thank you.

mikebrls 09-30-2011 08:26 PM

maybe, maybe not see how far you can jack up the front of the trailer , as it get's higher it should get shorter ?
i think :eek:

mikebrls 09-30-2011 08:28 PM

another crazy idea.
i can't tell from the pic how much room you have side to side . but if you have some room maybe put some wheel dolly's under the trailer so you can move the back end more side way's to make it fit .

teamsynergy 09-30-2011 08:44 PM

I think this goofball should just add onto the garage!!!

Sydwayz 09-30-2011 08:49 PM

Unless I had a set of yard arms, I would rather remove two drives and a swim platform vs. jacking the boat off the trailer with "hand tools."

Or make a "bump out box" out the back wall that the drives and swim platform will slip into.

Or buy another garage door and cut it to fit the tongue sticking thru it, and save the original door for when you sell.

FIXX 09-30-2011 09:14 PM

fixx
 
I use a automotive lift to lift boats off the trailers.works like a champ you could also store two cars in one stall in your garage if you have the celing height.i have a friend that sells and installs them if interested and if you have a extra 1600-2600 you need to part with :lolhit:.Im also in chicago land...

ICDEDPPL 09-30-2011 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by teamsynergy (Post 3517046)
I think this goofball should just add onto the garage!!!

I wish I would have known that for me 2' itis would turn into 8' itis..

I should have gone 4' bigger dammit!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...aborday024.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ataddition.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...er/AR10005.jpg


FIX that sound interesting actually.hmmmm

fireguy 09-30-2011 10:43 PM

Now that's a nice fix.

paulb32 09-30-2011 10:57 PM

I'm more interested in just what your gonna do to that thing over the winter that's worth all this trouble, and all this risk, that you can't do in a few weekends in the spring?:ernaehrung004:

I'll email you pics of my 36 up. The right tools to use are dedicated hydraulic lifts (4) and marine screw jacks. We used 4 hydraulic jacks as shown to lift the boat off the trailer, then put the screw jacks in as we pulled the trailer out. And the boat did have to go pretty high (probably about a foot or so) to clear all the trailer OK after the springs unload and leave clearance.
And I will tell you that while supported like this, I was NOT comfortable working on, in or especially under it still.

I'm sure there are other ways using "hand" tools, but no matter what use lots of wood.
And takin off the swim platform is also a pita, and eventually your screw holes might leak.

Randy Nielsen 09-30-2011 11:43 PM

You metioned a gantry, if you have access to one with a 2 ton winch you can strap the boat in the back & mount a smaller one in the front rafters & strap the bow eye. That is how we took boats off of semis & mounted them to their trailers. In your case I would set the boat on foam blocks or extend the back of the garage as ICDEDPPL did but you will have to check building codes to do that. That would also be the safest way by far. Myself im extending my garage 18 ft since the building permit will allow me to go up to 5 ft from my property line, Randy

Toddler 10-01-2011 09:03 PM

Get yourself a few of these. Trailer wheels just roll right over the plates.

http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/p...edin3stand.jpg

matt

chewyjr18 10-02-2011 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by Toddler (Post 3517568)
Get yourself a few of these. Trailer wheels just roll right over the plates.

http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/p...edin3stand.jpg

matt

did you make this?

ICDEDPPL 10-02-2011 01:41 AM

$1500+ brand new.:eek: (EACH) need 4

FIXX 10-02-2011 02:11 AM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3517635)
$1500+ brand new.:eek:

if you have access to a welder you could use 4 of the 20k bob cat trailer tougue jacks and weld a plate tothe bottom and top like the pic above..they look simple to make:drink:

bwd 10-02-2011 05:19 AM

I agree with jeff32 basically. After working in boat yards most of my young life it seems easy to me. But, if you really want to make it simple, Put the boat in the water and have a local guy with a hydrolic trailer set it in your garage for you. Most small contractors have trailers to fit 30 feet. Around my area, they get around 125. to $200.00 1 way. If you don't have stands, use 4x4's nailed perpandicular to the bottom, to a 2x6 10 ' long as a sleeper under the boat with a little piece of plywood on the top as a pad. If you use wood instead of stands use an extra set of blocks. 1 set every 10 feet. Or rent/ buy stands.

chewyjr18 10-02-2011 07:50 AM

i do have access to a welder and i have a full fabrication shop. Matt would you mind posting a few more pics of your home made stands? What is supporting the bow of the boat?

thanks

ICDEDPPL 10-02-2011 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by chewyjr18 (Post 3517682)
i do have access to a welder and i have a full fabrication shop. Matt would you mind posting a few more pics of your home made stands? What is supporting the bow of the boat?

thanks

yard arms are nice but not cheap.

http://yardarm.com/

http://www.boatstands.com/content/hy...ng-jack-system

I`ve decided to leave it on the trailer, I`ll post ics after I paint my "solution"

c_deezy 10-02-2011 09:12 AM

Here are a couple in Minnesota:

http://www.marinasandtransport.com/l...c.%20equipment

fountainfan42 10-02-2011 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3517716)
yard arms are nice but not cheap.http://yardarm.com/

http://www.boatstands.com/content/hy...ng-jack-system

I`ve decided to leave it on the trailer, I`ll post ics after I paint my "solution"

but they make the job so easy like childs play and SAFE :coolcowboy:

Toddler 10-02-2011 11:40 AM

No I did not build them the guy how repared the bottom did.

Here's a link to something close
http://www.boatstands.com/content/hy...ng-jack-system

matt

ICDEDPPL 10-02-2011 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by c_deezy (Post 3517717)

Two very used for $2200... what are they :bong:


I have my solution I think.. going hillbilly :lolhit:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/6eb11765.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/6cb3fc34.jpg


Shes tight but it`ll fit (insert joke here)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/7446674d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/ce46811c.jpg

JRider 10-03-2011 04:53 AM

You need to find a "bay window" on craigs list!

Tom A. 10-03-2011 08:31 AM

Nice Job!
That is exactly what I would have done!
I like the bow window idea but out of plywood. You could make a more finished piece over the window that looks like the garage door panel but bows out and around the hitch!

Run_em_hard 10-03-2011 08:50 AM

I pulled my boat off my trailer while giving the trailer a complete overhaul. Wasn't too tuff at all. I built some support stands for the back and used an engine lift for the front. The last trip to the lake I just left the boat off the back of the trailer slightly to allow room for the stands. Lower the front as far as possible and insert the stands. Then I raised the bow as high as I could, ended up using a handyman because the weight of the boat on the trailer jack was too much. Tied the bow off with a strong strap and lower the tounge back down. I ended up airing down the tires since I was alone while doing this and wanted to be sure I was good.
After I pulled the trailer I did add some additional supports that aren't in the picture, but you get the point.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rd/Boatoff.jpg

Snomad 10-03-2011 12:37 PM

Faced with a similar dilemma I went FULL REDNECK!

$175 worth of materials at the local Home Depot and I was set for a winter's worth of restoration work. Once finished I simply covered with a tarp - camo so nobody could see my "addition."

http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/y...Project135.jpg

Don't be scared...the neighbors will get over it.

Prater 10-03-2011 04:34 PM

I have moved my sea ray Sundancer off the trailer a few times. jack the trailer up instead of the boat. Then block the boat with boat stands and lower the trailer away from the boat. i then slowly pull forward using a couple spare boat jacks behind the trailer beam and remove the ones in front of the beam. just alternate them until the trailer is out from under the boat. then shore the boat with wooden blocks on the centerline. Here is my Sea Ray on stands with the trailer still underneath.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...y/IMG_1979.jpg

ICDEDPPL 10-03-2011 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Snomad (Post 3518576)
Faced with a similar dilemma I went FULL REDNECK!

$175 worth of materials at the local Home Depot and I was set for a winter's worth of restoration work. Once finished I simply covered with a tarp - camo so nobody could see my "addition."

http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/y...Project135.jpg

Don't be scared...the neighbors will get over it.

I love it! lol

You gotta do what you gotta do:drink:

Run em hard.. is teh front hook that strong to hold up the boat? way easier than I thought

Run_em_hard 10-04-2011 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3519079)
I love it! lol

You gotta do what you gotta do:drink:

Run em hard.. is teh front hook that strong to hold up the boat? way easier than I thought

Has been holding great. I did put a 10x10 under the keel after I took this picture. But all appears to be good.

US1 Fountain 10-04-2011 10:40 AM

Those rear wooden stands make my butt checks pucker.

Knot 4 Me 10-04-2011 10:47 AM

See post #3.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...8-project.html


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