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78CIG24 10-23-2011 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty (Post 3534386)
When is Soncis Alpha Edition Long Island Boat coming out?

Good point, I was wondering that yesterday.

What I really wanna know is when the "Coney Island Marathon" Limited Edition is being released....

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...er-weenie2.jpg

Hematite 10-23-2011 09:35 AM

I agree with 78CIG24, by changing a few logos, there comes an identity crisis to many, particularly without the DA history in the case of Outerlimits.

OL makes a quality product, from all that I've heard, but this is similar to Chevrolet winning the Nascar season then bringing out a "Henry Ford" tribute edition Chevrolet to honor the man who started it all. Would that make any sense or would it ever happen? I'm thinking no.

Hematite 10-23-2011 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by 78CIG24 (Post 3534398)
Good point, I was wondering that yesterday.

What I really wanna know is when the "Coney Island Marathon" Limited Edition is being released....

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...er-weenie2.jpg

Now I want one of those! THAT looks yummy!!!!:drink:

Indy 10-23-2011 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3534372)
I wouldnt call any of this internet bickering. Its simply people expressing their opinion re what appears if you called a vote at this time...a bad idea.

No one on either side has put down the quality of Mike's product, in fact just the opposite.
OL should take it as a compliment that people around here think enough about them and the path they take that they actually voice their opinion.

This is just the reaction you get when you are on the top of the list of boatbuilders.

If no one reacted they wouldnt give a shiit.

Not the OL thing, it's the Dan/OL thing and the reactionary bash fest that's ruining this thread. Agree with you on all other points.

Catastrophe 10-23-2011 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 3534407)
Not the OL thing, it's the Dan/OL thing and the reactionary bash fest that's ruining this thread. Agree with you on all other points.

Gotcha. I understand.

Comanche3Six 10-23-2011 10:21 AM

Time for a Don Aronow pic.....

Rattlesnake Jake 10-23-2011 10:36 AM

Maybe someone should have a seance and ask Don what he thinks and clear up all the BS..

:lolhit::lolhit::evilb:

Nauti Kitty 10-23-2011 11:20 AM

Commanche
Is that an OL in the background?

NK

Interceptor 10-23-2011 11:21 AM

I'm wondering why Cigarette has not done a Aronow tribute boat in the past ?
ed

Catastrophe 10-23-2011 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3534466)
I'm wondering why Cigarette has not done a Aronow tribute boat in the past ?
ed

How long did he own the company ?
And how long did he wait to compete with them after he sold it ? If in fact thats what happened.

It was a Cary secretly built under the name of a friend's Florida boatbuilding company to Aronow specifications since he was under a no compete restriction to the purchaser of one of his former companies.
Always the innovator,Aronow named it THE CIGARETTE after a fast 50' commuter hull built for New Yorker Gorden Hammersley by the legendary Gar Wood.


How many times did that happen ?

BLee 10-23-2011 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3534466)
I'm wondering why Cigarette has not done a Aronow tribute boat in the past ?
ed


Who says they won't?

They did a few Thunderboat Row tributes.

78CIG24 10-23-2011 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3534431)
Time for a Don Aronow pic.....

Great pic, thanks for sharing!!

Isn't that a Mistress in the background?

We need more pics in this thread!!!!

BTW, I notice he is not wearing "Ed hardy clothing" ....whoever the frack Ed hardy is?? Is Ed one of the Hardy Boys from that Nancy Drew Mysteries TV show??

Dave

Interceptor 10-23-2011 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3534466)
I'm wondering why Cigarette has not done a Aronow tribute boat in the past ?
ed


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 3534478)
Who says they won't?

They did a few Thunderboat Row tributes.

Guess I'm wondering why his son tied up with O.L. not Cigarette ?

Comanche3Six 10-23-2011 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty (Post 3534465)
Commanche
Is that an OL in the background?

NK

No

Comanche3Six 10-23-2011 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3533557)
Can we have a Ben Kramer edition next month too? :D

Sure

78CIG24 10-23-2011 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty (Post 3534465)
Commanche
Is that an OL in the background?

NK


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3534499)
No

But that one pic shows him in a "sit down" boat....does that count??

Thanks again for the pics.

Dave

thirdchildhood 10-23-2011 12:13 PM

Donzi did an Aronow Edition 22 Classic and Michael nixed it.....

scarab63 10-23-2011 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty (Post 3534386)
Funny Stuff

Pardon me but when did this "race" around Long Island suddenly become the standardbearer for offshore excellence. Seems from what Ive read there hasnt been many run over the past 50 years, some of the winners would hardly be considered the elite of offshore and last years winner ran a 30Sonic with Alpha's
How about Ol spend twenty years winning offshore races before they claim vbottom superiority and throw a 1 on the side.
When is Soncis Alpha Edition Long Island Boat coming out?

NK

PS No disrespect to this years winner or last. Congrats

Never said this was the elite race to hold a title to.

I was connecting the dots of what's gone down recently

horba , bill and charles talked to mike a to use dons name for their l.i. race

Mike a was at this race

An o.l. Broke the record for the race

somewhere along the way someone said it would be a good idea to make a tribute boat to don.

Charles, dan, o.l. And mike a. came up with this cadillac cimeron of a tribute paint scheme to don.

I was merely suggesting it would be a lot cooler to make a purpose built boat boasting larger tanks for the don A long island marathon.

This is no disrespect to any of the parties involved, im just trying to connect the dots of this concept. And yes d I know what they say when you assume something.

None of this is fact , all assumption

78CIG24 10-23-2011 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3534515)
Charles, dan, o.l. And mike a. came up with this cadillac cimeron of a tribute paint scheme to don.

FYI, not many people will get that reference...

http://www.carfolio.com/images/dbima...illac-logo.png

But technically it is more like the Magnum Marine Logo... which I have been hesitant to mention since "Post #1"...we don't need those Magnum guys in here TOO.. LOL

http://www.magnummarine.com/images/logo.png

scarab63 10-23-2011 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by 78CIG24 (Post 3534526)
FYI, not many people will get that reference...

http://www.carfolio.com/images/dbima...illac-logo.png

But technically it is more like the Magnum Marine Logo... which I have been hesitant to mention since "Post #1"...we don't need those Magnum guys in here TOO.. LOL

http://www.magnummarine.com/images/logo.png

Ha. Cadillac cimeron was the best odd ball flop I could think of.

again if any of my connect the dot assumptions are way off base or out of line, someone please feel free to call me out or correct me.

78CIG24 10-23-2011 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3534532)
Ha. Cadillac cimeron was the best odd ball flop I could think of.

again if any of my connect the dot assumptions are way off base or out of line, someone please feel free to call me out or correct me.

I think your "Whatevertheheckname" Marathon version with extra fuel tanks is spot on, and a great idea, in concept.

Sadly though, most people that buy "Limited Editions", replicas, etc, are posers and would never use or need the extra fuel capacity. People that would use that capacity typically want to make their own "history".

Oh, no offense meant to anyone about the Poser comment, just my observation over many decades.

Dave

woogie 10-23-2011 01:06 PM

All this cross branding is getting silly. I can understand some of the old Don Johnson Edition KV Scarabs, Reggie Special Signature Edition Fountain's, Donzi Aronow Edition 22's – (licensing issues prod. cut at 6) and even the Cigarette Playboy Edition but some of these editions are just whoring. Even the new Cigarette Ducati Special Edition and the Cigarette AMG Special Edition just seem more like OCC reality tv marketing.

Starting to become a re-run of Shelby doing Pit Stop Deodarant, Chili Fixins , Shelby Donzi's, etc.. and even a Shelby Edition Dodge Omni. I thought the bottom for boat companies was when Donzi made a Special Edition Les Paul Guitar …

If Michael Aronow had direct input and design involvement with the original 43OL build from the start it would be easier to buy in but just giving the okay on paint and interior sketches seems like a total money grab and a disrespectful move on the DA name and legacy.

Matt Trulio 10-23-2011 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by woogie (Post 3534544)
All this cross branding is getting silly. I can understand some of the old Don Johnson Edition KV Scarabs, Reggie Special Signature Edition Fountain's, Donzi Aronow Edition 22's – (licensing issues prod. cut at 6) and even the Cigarette Playboy Edition but some of these editions are just whoring. Even the new Cigarette Ducati Special Edition and the Cigarette AMG Special Edition just seem more like OCC reality tv marketing.

Starting to become a re-run of Shelby doing Pit Stop Deodarant, Chili Fixins , Shelby Donzi's, etc.. and even a Shelby Edition Dodge Omni. I thought the bottom for boat companies was when Donzi made a Special Edition Les Paul Guitar …

If Michael Aronow had direct input and design involvement with the original 43OL build from the start it would be easier to buy in but just giving the okay on paint and interior sketches seems like a total money grab and a disrespectful move on the DA name and legacy.

Respectfully disagree for one reason: At least boat builders who are cross-branding are trying to stimulate sales. The end product might not appeal to you, but it might appeal to someone else who isn't already a go-fast boat enthusiast or owner.

They're trying to stimulate sales. If you follow this industry, and I'm sure you do, you know that new performance-boat sales are not strong these days.

And guys (and gals), I don't think I'm revealing any profound marketing/packaging secrets when I say what makes most "special editions" of most products "special" is their cosmetics.

Last, I love these discussions and I wouldn't do a thing to change them. But I do wonder why they go so quickly from passionate to personal. Just sayin'.

78CIG24 10-23-2011 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by woogie (Post 3534544)
All this cross branding is getting silly. I can understand some of the old Don Johnson Edition KV Scarabs, Reggie Special Signature Edition Fountain's, Donzi Aronow Edition 22's – (licensing issues prod. cut at 6) and even the Cigarette Playboy Edition but some of these editions are just whoring. Even the new Cigarette Ducati Special Edition and the Cigarette AMG Special Edition just seem more like OCC reality tv marketing.

I understand what you are saying..while I didn't ever think the Ducati version would have Ducati engines...I was surprised the AMG version didn't have some of their engines.

At least when Porsche did their "Porsche Design" boat stuff years ago with Kineo...they used Porsche engines in them....

http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/wp-...Boat-Motor.jpg

Along with some unique Porsche Design features most will never notice. The flush flip out Swim Platform on this was brilliant.
http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/wp-...-Boat-Tail.jpg


Originally Posted by woogie (Post 3534544)
Starting to become a re-run of Shelby doing Pit Stop Deodarant, Chili Fixins , Shelby Donzi's, etc.. and even a Shelby Edition Dodge Omni. I thought the bottom for boat companies was when Donzi made a Special Edition Les Paul Guitar …

FYI, Mr. Shelby cooks up some Kicka$$ chili !!

:evilb:

thirdchildhood 10-23-2011 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by woogie (Post 3534544)
All this cross branding is getting silly. I can understand some of the old Don Johnson Edition KV Scarabs, Reggie Special Signature Edition Fountain's, Donzi Aronow Edition 22's – (licensing issues prod. cut at 6) and even the Cigarette Playboy Edition but some of these editions are just whoring. Even the new Cigarette Ducati Special Edition and the Cigarette AMG Special Edition just seem more like OCC reality tv marketing.

Starting to become a re-run of Shelby doing Pit Stop Deodarant, Chili Fixins , Shelby Donzi's, etc.. and even a Shelby Edition Dodge Omni. I thought the bottom for boat companies was when Donzi made a Special Edition Les Paul Guitar …

If Michael Aronow had direct input and design involvement with the original 43OL build from the start it would be easier to buy in but just giving the okay on paint and interior sketches seems like a total money grab and a disrespectful move on the DA name and legacy.

For once I disagree with Matt Trulio. I think this is one of the best posts on this thread. Donzi flooded it's line-up with special editions that hold no special value because there are so many of them and the max power offered in the Shelby 22 Classic was a stock 496 HO. The only performance enhancements were an air scoop and raised "X". Also, TTBOMK, the Donzi guitar wasn't even a "real" Les Paul but was the imported version.

cosmic12 10-23-2011 02:28 PM

WOW! my head is spinning!!:eek:
19 pages and its not about (dare I say) Apache:evilb:

Comanche3Six 10-23-2011 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 3534583)
WOW! my head is spinning!!:eek:
19 pages and its not about (dare I say) Apache:evilb:

AaaaaHaaaa! LOL!!! Let's see that OL run this water! LOL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niwjMgDl02k

Nauti Kitty 10-23-2011 03:35 PM

Off Topic but I could watch that video all day

NK

thirdchildhood 10-23-2011 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty (Post 3534614)
Off Topic but I could watch that video all day

NK

Helz yeah, me too! What a concept, not dubbing music over it...:coolcowboy:

Matt Trulio 10-23-2011 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3534555)
For once I disagree with Matt Trulio. I think this is one of the best posts on this thread. Donzi flooded it's line-up with special editions that hold no special value because there are so many of them and the max power offered in the Shelby 22 Classic was a stock 496 HO. The only performance enhancements were an air scoop and raised "X". Also, TTBOMK, the Donzi guitar wasn't even a "real" Les Paul but was the imported version.

And I'm good with that. :drink: Disagreement is healthy.

DollaBill 10-23-2011 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3534589)
AaaaaHaaaa! LOL!!! Let's see that OL run this water! LOL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niwjMgDl02k

That, right there, is what it's all about. Gives me chills ;)

OldSchool 10-23-2011 05:44 PM

LMFAO!!!

I actually used my boat today...and got laid. Don would have been proud! :D:evilb::D:evilb:

cosmic12 10-23-2011 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3534694)
LMFAO!!!

I actually used my boat today...and got laid. Don would have been proud! :D:evilb::d:evilb:

Ya! thats the spirit!:lolhit:

A.O. Razor 10-23-2011 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3534589)
AaaaaHaaaa! LOL!!! Let's see that OL run this water! LOL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niwjMgDl02k

Beautiful.

Let's see a Bravo boat do that:lolhit:

78CIG24 10-23-2011 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3534589)
AaaaaHaaaa! LOL!!! Let's see that OL run this water! LOL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niwjMgDl02k

I don't know...you sure that video is not a fake?? Not sure if it is my old eyes, but I don't see any steps and chit on that boat...I don't think they can run that good with out that "stuff", right?

:party-smiley-004:

kreed 10-23-2011 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty (Post 3534614)
Off Topic but I could watch that video all day

NK

Me too...sick boat.

Kreed

SHARKEY-IMAGES 10-24-2011 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3534694)
LMFAO!!!

I actually used my boat today...and got laid. Don would have been proud! :D:evilb::D:evilb:

;)


http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/im...64499678-4.jpg

TeamSaris 10-24-2011 11:02 AM

Outerwhat?

kreed 10-24-2011 11:33 AM

Outerlimits may be fast, But looking at Old Schools Top Gun, you cant beat the classic look of a Top Gun...timeless IMO. Nice pic.

PhantomChaos 10-24-2011 11:45 AM

Time for a commercial break. :drink::drink::drink::drink:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmlOyJOeRSw[/youtube]


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