Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3533557)

Can we have a Ben Kramer edition next month too? :D

Originally Posted by FlyenBrian (Post 3537573)

Don't screw this thread up with a bunch of damn logic or facts.

Originally Posted by Racegirl3 (Post 3537469)

One of the first things I learned when I was introduced to the go fast world was that Don was the man and pretty much every go fast boat brand out there was a splash of one of Dons boats in one way shape or form. It seems only fitting to me that other brands pay homage to him.

Rick G ... "I think it makes absolutely no sense for a builder to offer a boat in honor of another builder especially given the fact that if that builder were still alive he would be a fierce competetor and given his track record still winning." To me thats kinda the point of all this.... he would still be a fierce competitor and given his track record, he would be on his 20th company by now ... and all of them would be wonderful but since he's not still around, they are honoring his vision of continuing to advance the product.

Don Aronow, according to those who knew him, was unlike any other.... that is why he is getting the tribute. I'm surprised at how many go fast boaters dont see that... regardless of your personal favorite brand..... :bunny:

Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3533950)

I wouldn't go that far, but I am VERY impressed with the numbers those SV43's run. I've run with them a couple of times and they flat out haul azz for their size!

As Steve just mentioned, at FR he couldn't reel in that 43 with his Ilmor powered 32B Skater... IMO that's pretty damn impressive that the significantly smaller skater with 710 Ilmors couldn't reel in the much larger vee with 725 Ilmors in decent water. Those 43's run!!!

Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 3537638)

STEVE and SCOTT I thought DAN and his fathers boat had the 650 v 10s?? Dan and his father have owned a lot of different boats over the years a lot.Tank if you met him you would like Dan. I don't think Mike F has anytime to see whats up here. everytime I've been to OL, MIKE is either working on a boat, testing a boat, working with a customer, running over to the engine shop. but will take the time to answer a question or show you whats the latest project. it must be winter.:coolcowboy:

Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3533971)

We'll have to agree to disagree. I won't buy a BMW for this exact reason. I don't want to be stereotyped for what I own...it's just that simple. They are awesome machines (BMW and OL) but I can't be bothered with the drama that surrounds them.

Originally Posted by OldSchoolKV (Post 3534031)

LMAO! Outerlimits announces a "special edition" boat to "honor" the founder of one of their key competitors. They even went so far as to include a photo of a Cigarette in the background of their rendering. Clearly this is no more than an obvious money-grab by Michael Aronow and a pretty poor marketing idea by OL.

When you've got half of OSO laughing at you, a company rep being called a douche, and the Banana Boat guy rushing to your defense, I'd call that a misfire!

There are a lot of brands that can claim a bit of Aronow in their lineage...OL aint one of em! Think they'll ever sell one?

Originally Posted by Racegirl3 (Post 3537469)

One of the first things I learned when I was introduced to the go fast world was that Don was the man and pretty much every go fast boat brand out there was a splash of one of Dons boats in one way shape or form. It seems only fitting to me that other brands pay homage to him.

Rick G ... "I think it makes absolutely no sense for a builder to offer a boat in honor of another builder especially given the fact that if that builder were still alive he would be a fierce competetor and given his track record still winning." To me thats kinda the point of all this.... he would still be a fierce competitor and given his track record, he would be on his 20th company by now ... and all of them would be wonderful but since he's not still around, they are honoring his vision of continuing to advance the product.

Don Aronow, according to those who knew him, was unlike any other.... that is why he is getting the tribute. I'm surprised at how many go fast boaters dont see that... regardless of your personal favorite brand..... :bunny:

Originally Posted by stainless (Post 3534045)

Oh, you mean the boat that says Cigarette on the side? :rolleyes: Yeah, but you get the idea. Maybe for the next OL special edition they can use a photo of an old Excalibur that says Fountain on it and use it to honor Reggie? Hey if RF Powerboats doesn't want to invest in tooling right now, why not follow in the footsteps of the Aronow family and just license the name? My point is, these brands have heritage and when you whore out your name to the highest (or...only) bidder, you diminish it.

Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 3537638)

STEVE and SCOTT I thought DAN and his fathers boat had the 650 v 10s?? Dan and his father have owned a lot of different boats over the years a lot.Tank if you met him you would like Dan. I don't think Mike F has anytime to see whats up here. everytime I've been to OL, MIKE is either working on a boat, testing a boat, working with a customer, running over to the engine shop. but will take the time to answer a question or show you whats the latest project. it must be winter.:coolcowboy:

Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3534589)

AaaaaHaaaa! LOL!!! Let's see that OL run this water! LOL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niwjMgDl02k

Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3535467)

Agreed, we all own what we like, obviously we're not going to bash what we own...

Originally Posted by SVL-WARLOCK (Post 3535479)

I think the 399 skater bottom is faster than all of them. just my 2cents. The boat was the first boat with the two big steps and three little steps. The OL has it now. The skater was faster than any boat pound for pound against all competitors. They had to keep adding weight to make it fair. so before we get to carried away lets throw petter in to the mix

Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 3537701)

they ran in bigger sea's over on the other side of the pond a few years ago. look up the video's from P1, I think 3 years ago there were some good vids running in hugh water 12 plus and fast.Joe s was there with mike f. man I am only on page 19, pulled a all nighter trying to read this, but did sleep from 3am to 5am.

Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3537650)

Art,
Ken's 40 does have 650's as I recall, but Steve and I were referring to the 43 with the 725's, not Ken's boat. I think Ken's will run a tick over 110 though, which is very impressive given the boat only has 650's in it!

Originally Posted by AB From Windsor (Post 3537680)

Dan and his father Ken are definitely a couple of what I call the good guys on OSO who often contribute great information on here. Dan is a real Offshore enthusiast with Offshore Powerboating in his blood, polite, friendly, well brought up kid and smart. Mike F. is lucky to have someone like Dan working for OL., if I were in the marine industry I would want Dan on my team. No one is perfect except for maybe a few on here.

Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 3537638)

Tank if you met him you would like Dan.

Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3538974)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSHZf5NIfO0

@12.54

Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3538974)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSHZf5NIfO0

@12.54

Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3538986)

Just sayin but I think Don and even his son would put his stamp of approval on this one as well. PS, it has the #1 http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42510-en.html

Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3538854)

Fast in 12' plus seas! Sorry, but I have to call bs on that one.

Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 3539643)

dude go back in the p1 section watch the vids from from 2 years ago. its there the boats would were flying.

Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3538993)

6' plus with some big holes....that's the spirit! That's
the way to test build quality...the ocean has no favorite brands.

Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3539616)

Keep in mind to run through a patch of rough water & then smaller water is quite different then running tens of miles of rough water. Then do it for decades with the same boat! That's where hull design & build quality are paramount .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRayu3RSOrM

Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3539634)

Am I the only one who would rather listen to the engines than Lady GooGoo?

Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3539652)

The Dude abides....Lol!

Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3538986)

Just sayin but I think Don and even his son would put his stamp of approval on this one as well. PS, it has the #1 http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42510-en.html

Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 3533685)

This stunt would be like Lamborghini coming out with a red Enzo Ferrari themed car complete with prancing horses on the sides decades after he passed while the two companies were still bitter rivals in a bad economy. Even if they did get permission from one of his children, it would still strike a lot of people as being disrespectful to a legendary brand that so many people worked so hard to build up beyond the founder himself.

This DA themed boat with a (1) on the sides does not raise my image of OL in any way. In fact, as others have pointed out, it leaves me scratching my head wondering why they would pull such a stunt when they are finally sitting atop the V bottom racing world and should be far above making such gaffs. Build your own brand image for having the fastest V bottoms on the planet and leave the memory of Don Aronow and the (1) logo with Cigarette where it has been in good hands for the last 40 years. IMO

Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3539616)

Keep in mind to run through a patch of rough water & then smaller water is quite different then running tens of miles of rough water. Then do it for decades with the same boat! That's where hull design & build quality are paramount .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRayu3RSOrM