Geico take out turbines?
 

Since there are no other turbines racing and Geico team have done so much for the sport would it make sense to take out the turbines and race with the other unlimited superboats? It can't be fun racing around by yourself all the time....

I think it might make sense to combine some of the other classes as well. Of course i think they would need to change the concept and go back to longer courses to make the teams more competitive.

:op:They will get right on it:point:

My point is why not race with other boats. Geico team is great for the sport, but even they will get board racing by themselves all the time...

plenty of turbine boats out there to race Geico.... Just some have circumstances that keep those teams off the water right now...

Why would they have they taken out the turbines before the races end??? In distinction to the Cintron, on Friday the Miss Geico had been running sooo smooothly!! But they did of course have nobody to play with... And now the Cintron is out there and the Geico has gone? Have they perhaps in the end gotten tired of racing against farters? I thought they liked them (in distinction to me), at least according to Scotty´s words?

I don´t understand this, and am thus fearing the worst.
Pleeeeease Scotty or Marc, explain to us what is happening!!??

I didn't mean taking them out for this year, i meant next year. But if other turbines are expected then they should keep them in.

I figured they would not want to race another whole season as the only turbine boat again..

I did not see Geico out there today, any news on that?

:evilb:JBS couple others!!I think they are not taking anything out !Just another guy who's going to save offshore racing with his opinions which are like A/ holes everybody has one:evilb:

Paradise island
 

Maybe you should keep your racing advice to yourself until you put your own ass and $ on the line for nothing more than a pat on the back.

People love turbines. :)

Isnt the thread starter just commenting on a lack of competition and saying that they arent really racing a lot of the time ?
I dont think he is trying to save the racing industry.

He's just making an obvious point.

Boring... Need more loud azz blown big cube boats like Cat Can Do.

I didn´t give any advice. First read, then think (if you can), and only then should you post.

Nonetheless, your post hints a why you don´t want to race: You just use your boat as a fun business device: Super party team, flame throwers called afterburners, blah blah etc. p.p. I have called you a pretender before, and I now feel confirmed in that judgement. And on top you make fun about those who do race.

You are not a racer. You are just a showman.

I read something a while ago that said the unlimited hydros were going to do away with turbines for lack of parts & also that the fans wanted to listen to the big v-12s instead of the screaming of the turbines however that seemed to be about the same time turbines started being used in offshore boats like gieco & JBS, even the public market if ya got the dime

Boring... need more brain tickle to take off on gas turbine engineering and what it can do. By the way, four stroke explosion motors have the lowest power to weight ratio of all internal combustion engines. And that´s what ultimately killed Bob and Jeff. But it´s far too early now to talk about this issue.

Maybe you better watch this and re-think you're statments. :lolhit:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jasonjbs#p/u/21/IQORF9BLfUI

http://www.youtube.com/user/jasonjbs#p/u/19/lt2Hxfg_0Hg

You missed my point. I'm well aware of the advantages. Would auto racing be the same if the cars were electric? No sound? Turbines... boring wirrrrrrrrr.......

dude...LOL

I think the point being made is this. One boat running around in a "class" is not racing. While the occupants of the boat are getting a huge rush and risking bodily harm, it's sill not racing. Two boats in a "class" could be called "competing", but it's still not racing. Put a dozen boats or more together with a set of unified rules and then we are racing...and "winning" means something. Sponsors, media, fans and real racers would all benefit from this.

EXACTLY

Wow!

So logical .
Offshore racing needs a Bill France .

That is the point i was trying to make, but i guess it went over some peoples head...

Not to change the subject but those video's show that the current canopies offer very little protection.Had that boat hit a foot or two farther back the outcome would have been different.

:drink::drink::drink:

I understood your point, but it is wintertime here in OSO.

:ernaehrung004:

His comment wasn't for you.
Read the little title in his post, it was for Paradise ...

I will admit that I miss the big Alison piston engines in unlimited hydro but a turbine powered off-shore boat is way too cool. Here's a very short video I shot at Put-in-Bay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM2DBed_vY

When you are running trying to get a high average speed or just to complete a 90 mile run your racing!:drink:

Not really, The Unlimited Hydro's are thinking about going back to piston engines. The crowds like the roar of piston engines better than the turbines.

There is nothing that compared to the sounds of the old piston powered Hydro's other then an old piston powered engine. It will always be the sound that I remember hearing every summer roaring in the Windsor and the Detroit Area. You knew when it was the Gold Cup races, now with the Turbines you need to read about it as they are very quite, other then when they are spoiling up. Reliability, weight and HP you can't beat a Turbine but I still love the sounds of a piston engine.

“The crowds”. Why can´t there be only one technologically more sophisticsted motor sport for somewhat less primitive people? I´d say that what sex and motor sports have in common, is not only the sensual experience (testosterone, oxytocine, adrenaline, you name it). But what really counts most in both cases is what happens between the ears. And this is where the internal beauty of women and motors comes into play...

So were it not for environmental reasons, I would considerate four strokers as a complete nuisance. Besides the environmental issue, their only advantage is that their functional principle is so simple (say: primitive), that even people with slight brain damage can fully understand it. With two strokers things get more complicated, and Wankels are outright beautiful. And their power to weight ratio increases in that same order.

If what you prophecize will come true, it will be the end of my relationship with unlimited hydros. I wish I had discovered that sport at the beginning of the last year, when the last one of those stubborn farter freaks (U3) had finally grasped the idea and had left the circuit.

Not sure what your saying, but I think your saying a turbine is a sophisticsted engine?? If that's what your saying, it is not, in fact its quit simple (i'm factory trained on avco lycoming agt 1500), and as for bringing back pistons, you'd have to talk to the pres. of the asso. he's the one that said it not me.

Dayum :eek:




ITS A SKATER NATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:drink:

the facts
 

Were back from KW and wanted to post our condolences to our friends lost and injured this weekend and found this thread. Here's a couple things to consider.

The Miss Geico racing team has invested over $20 mm creating a platform that combines power speed and technology. We are on race number twenty one on the current set of engines. 21 full throttle races and testing..2 years. And they are still running strong.

If you take Key west out of the equation from Unlimited to Cat light they are all 1-2 boat classes. certainly not enough momentum to justify a $500,000-$750,000 investment. That said ..what happens when/if we did put another boat into a competitive class? Recent offshore history shows that when you have a a well supported team that tests and is very competitive their competitors call them cheaters gang up on them and leave to race another org.

The problem with offshore is systemic, lack of repect for fellow racers, racing organizations,rules and financial instability. Not one boat pushing for a better mousetrap.

When a racing org decides to truly build and back a new class we will consider it. Give the current state f the economy I wouldnt expect anything soon. Don't confuse the picture because a couple of extra boats came out for a specific class in KW. Watch what happens next season when they have to race outside the spotlight of the Worlds. No shows, flip floppers ,trailer queens and keyboard hero's. Hey..How come no one is *****ing to the boats that are no shows???


Whats wrong Whats right. I like to look at our team as what's right for offshore. We are running very advanced technonlogy with formula one live telemetry being downloaded to shore, reliable engines and a really cool sound. We are a proffessional team pushing the limits with safety and performance. Look, We've been around the offshore course a time or two and have to deal with all the macho I'm a big bad boat racer/poker runner,I love the big water, listen to me roar crap. It's a load of BS by people that don't test don't use their brains and don't know what the fk they are truly doing on the race course or otherwise. There is a science to running/racing a boat fast. Have you ever noticed how smooth Miss G runs on a race course compared to other boats..do you think there is a reason for this?

Our crew is right there to help as soon as a competitor of any class needs help whether it be a flipped boat,parts ,expertise, set up, craning engines or advice. We are always there for our fellow racers. Yes, we are whats right for offshore. It's easy to bash the yellow boat because we test we practise we go out of our way to accomodate and take the high road when confronted by jealous racers, bullies (no pun intended), gossip, backstabbers and adversity.

We all love the sound of nasty big blocks but that will be a thing of the past very shortly. Have any of you heard the CMS or Gasse Merc 1350 boats? no.. because like it or not technology is moving forward and the boats will become quieter. We get three times as many people commenting on how much they love the sound than we do that don't and the kids love it.


Now that KW is over I'm going to release some information that we did as a test this year to see how competitive we would be in a lower HP class...We turned our motors down to aprox 1500 hp ...ALL SEASON. Any of you guys notice that we aren't running 180 + but 150's and 160 now? Huh.. Any of you notice how Cintron and CMS dusted Miss G in Wed race in KW? Or How Cintron rocked us for 9 laps in Clearwater and Michigan City. Maybe how WHM smoked us in Sarasota guess not. Are you really watching whats happening in offshore?

We had a great run with the Pistons on Wed but were pushed out of the big boat start by one boat. They even had a faster boat.. we told them we wanted to race..They opted for solo laps. Too bad because it was great racing action while it lasted for those that saw it...don't believe me..check the lap times are we really that different in speed? The answer is no. Those that are stirring this thread really don't follow offshore they are just looking for controversey and its easy to use someone who's trying to be better than the past.. the yellow boat.


Take out Turbines...No Way. We feel we are the future.

Why we didn't race on Sunday in KW.

3 of our our friends died and out of respect for their families ,the Miss GEICO stayed on the trailer. Many of our crew were upset and didn't feel they could perform at 100%. For our fans sorry if we let you down.

Regards

Miss GEICO

Good post Marc! :)

2 words...class act.

Wow that's incredible.

Thank you!:kiss:

Wow....that is really good post I ever read!!!! Thank you for pointing out the facts!!!!I did not know that CMS and Cintron beat you with speeds. I will print out Wed, Fri results and compare very closely so I can see your actual points! You did not let me down if you and your team were not up for Sunday race! Whatever you and your team's decision, I still support you 100%. Just do what you and your team think is best!!!

When I am done comparing, I will get back to you on that one.

Thanks,
Chris

High-class. Well said.
:cool: