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Scarab29 12-19-2011 06:59 AM

Kachina vs Sunsation
 
I am looking for a MCOB in 32-34' range. I know Sunsation is a high quality boat but I don't know how Kachina compares ? .. Any info on the Kachina ? ..thanks

45Tripps 12-19-2011 08:24 AM

I could be wrong, but I thought Kachina was out of business. Even if they are not, If these are your only two choices, the answer is simple, Sunsation.

rlj676 12-19-2011 09:31 AM

No offense to any Kachina owners......but they are not comparable to a Sunsation in my opinion. Look at the West Coast sites (riverdavesplace.com or performanceboats) and you'll catch on that Kachina's are the butt of many jokes, both for horrendous paint and questionable build quality.

There are however quite a few more quality boat makers out West who do MCOB, like Eliminator, DCB, Howard, Lavey etc. However in the 32 range I don't know that there are too many options.

Uncle Dave 12-19-2011 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by rlj676 (Post 3574459)
No offense to any Kachina owners......but they are not comparable to a Sunsation in my opinion. Look at the West Coast sites (riverdavesplace.com or performanceboats) and you'll catch on that Kachina's are the butt of many jokes, both for horrendous paint and questionable build quality.

There are however quite a few more quality boat makers out West who do MCOB, like Eliminator, DCB, Howard, Lavey etc. However in the 32 range I don't know that there are too many options.


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bcfountain 12-19-2011 10:28 AM

sunny for sure.

Quality Time 12-19-2011 10:50 AM

Kachina is not even in the same league.

twocents 12-19-2011 11:04 AM

Sunsation trumps Kachina every time. And, Kachina is out of business since the death of owner, Louie Majors. If you're looking for a steal, check out the 32 Razor at Cobra Performance Boats in Montclair, CA. Beautiful boat and runs great. Twin Ilmor 625s with IMCO drives -- you can get it for under $200,000 on a custom triple axle Extreme trailer.

Biggus 12-19-2011 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Quality Time (Post 3574538)
Kachina is not even in the same league.

Right On.

TexomaPowerboater 12-19-2011 01:09 PM

Do a search. There was a guy here a while back that sued Kachina. I recall he had a brand new boat surveyed and it didn't go too well.

Originalronza 12-19-2011 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by twocents (Post 3574551)
Sunsation trumps Kachina every time. And, Kachina is out of business since the death of owner, Louie Majors. If you're looking for a steal, check out the 32 Razor at Cobra Performance Boats in Montclair, CA. Beautiful boat and runs great. Twin Ilmor 625s with IMCO drives -- you can get it for under $200,000 on a custom triple axle Extreme trailer.

Word is 145k will buy the 32 razor, great boat and very good deal

Captain YARRR 12-19-2011 01:57 PM

They appear to look cool but do enough research and you'll talk yourself out of it. Apparently saying they have a low resale value would be a compliment. Lots of them sitting.

SPEEDJUNKIES750 12-19-2011 02:20 PM

I have sold many Sunsations and was approached by Kachina to sell their product before the owner passed away and the factory was shut down. I can tell you that the Kachina in no way complimented the Sunsation boat line I was already selling. Kachina has very cool graphics but that is about it. Where will you be boating? The Kachina's are a very good lake boat but not intended for rough water at all.

No offense to anyone that currently owns one. This is my opinion.
I would recommend the Sunsation.

SPEEDJUNKIES750 12-19-2011 02:21 PM

I just noticed you are in the Poconos. PM me and I will see if I can get you up close to a Sunny very soon.

Tom

KEVLARKAT32 12-19-2011 02:59 PM

Seen plenty of Sunbunnies on par with any baja or checkmate I have ever seen. Ok boat with a name that sounds like a box of Tampons !!! Buyers market , be smart shop around !!! I have seen 36 Cigarette with 2-525 sell for 105 . That was a real boat !!! My point is be smart and get the best you can for your money

45Tripps 12-19-2011 03:01 PM

I Know where you can get a real nice 2002 31 Sonic with trailer, and other upgrades for $60K. Has 496HO's. Hard to beat it in this size range with cabin and other ammentities.

Aggressor 25 12-19-2011 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by 45Tripps (Post 3574713)
I Know where you can get a real nice 2002 31 Sonic with trailer, and other upgrades for $60K. Has 496HO's. Hard to beat it in this size range with cabin and other ammentities.

The OP is looking for a mid cabin open bow. There was a 2006 32 MCOB Dominator SS in TX with 496ho that was for sale for $60ish. I think it recently sold though.

ActiveThunder 12-19-2011 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Scarab29 (Post 3574362)
I am looking for a MCOB in 32-34' range. I know Sunsation is a high quality boat but I don't know how Kachina compares ? .. Any info on the Kachina ? ..thanks

Budget? New or used?

dykstra 12-19-2011 07:41 PM

Sunny

Scarab29 12-19-2011 07:42 PM

Thanks for the input. Didn't really like the Kachina from the pictures I seen but I figured I would ask.. I recently won the auction on a 32 sunny mcob on ebay for 46k but the guy started playing games with the trailer then sent my deposit back.
I am looking for used around $60k.

PhantomChaos 12-19-2011 07:48 PM

http://www.nordicboatsusa.com/pre_owned_list.asp

POWERPLAY J 12-19-2011 08:05 PM

Do you really want the open bow? Only asking because I know a few guys that bought the mid cabin just to switch to closed bow. The novelty will wear off.

I do know of a 02 Powerplay 33 with 496ho's for sale... Best boat in that size range.

Scarab29 12-20-2011 05:13 AM

I think I like the idea of the open bow, We never sleep on the boat and when we tie up it would be nice for people to go up front. The beds in the bow are just wasted space for me ..

45Tripps 12-20-2011 08:28 AM

Havent seen anything like that around the bay area, except the smaller runabouts. I would consider resale for future, especially locally. Good luck.

If you run the bay, and the water gets nasty, likely to get the front area pretty wet. Something to think about too.

Captain YARRR 12-20-2011 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Scarab29 (Post 3574953)
Thanks for the input. Didn't really like the Kachina from the pictures I seen but I figured I would ask.. I recently won the auction on a 32 sunny mcob on ebay for 46k but the guy started playing games with the trailer then sent my deposit back.
I am looking for used around $60k.

I think the graphics are pretty cool, but that's about it.

I think I ended up buying the same boat. I am not sure if the seller was giving me a line. But he said the trailer was always included, the problem was he was a motivated seller and needed the cash like yesterday. You didn't have it ready to go according to him.


The OP is looking for a mid cabin open bow. There was a 2006 32 MCOB Dominator SS in TX with 496ho that was for sale for $60ish. I think it recently sold though.
That boat sold to a board member in San Antonio. He plans on taking it out here to Lake Travis, looking forward to seeing it.

waterman 12-20-2011 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by 45Tripps (Post 3575241)
Havent seen anything like that around the bay area, except the smaller runabouts. I would consider resale for future, especially locally. Good luck.

If you run the bay, and the water gets nasty, likely to get the front area pretty wet. Something to think about too.

Sunsations come with a cover for the open bow. Based on personal experience, the covers keep the open bow very dry. It is surprising how much room the cabins have even with the open bow.

Lou

On Time 12-20-2011 01:01 PM

Speaking of 32 Sunsations didn't one of those crack in half jumping freighter wakes in the Houston Ship channel?

POWERPLAY J 12-20-2011 01:57 PM

Didn't hear about that one. My buddy has a 42 lightning with a cabin that came apart. And a windshield about as strong. So I guess its possible... :drink:

POWERPLAY J 12-20-2011 01:58 PM

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On Time 12-20-2011 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3575486)
Didn't hear about that one. My buddy has a 42 lightning with a cabin that came apart. And a windshield about as strong. So I guess its possible... :drink:

Actualy I think there were two 32 Suns that cracked in half. A friend with a 382 Formula rescued the people from the 2nd accident and they told him.

POWERPLAY J 12-20-2011 02:24 PM

There has been a few totalled from being spun out. Yeah step boats do that. Broke in half? That's a stretch. Pics?

On Time 12-20-2011 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3575514)
There has been a few totalled from being spun out. Yeah step boats do that. Broke in half? That's a stretch. Pics?

I have seen the pics, but I don't have any. The guy that told me is reliable. His slip is across from mine. The people only had minor injuries on the one he rescued, and he said the driver told him he came down on the peak of a large wave after a huge jump.

On Time 12-20-2011 02:38 PM

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I did find a pic of a wake:

Scarab29 12-20-2011 02:59 PM

Captain Yarrr. You are the one that bought the sunsation I had the deposit on ?
If so what actually happened was the first email he sent me after the auction said that I got a great deal on the boat and he got alot of great offers on the boat after the auction endded .. And to let him know if I wanted the trailer, it would be another $3500.. This is after I talked to him asked about the boat and trailer, Had a buddy stop by look at everything and go for a ride. After the sale We went back and forth about the trailer a couple of emails then I said I would just take to boat by itself but he just sent back my deposit and would not reply to my phone calls or email.. I had all my finance in order and had the trip planned to pick it up... That guy is really the bottom of the barrel ...



Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 3575259)
I think the graphics are pretty cool, but that's about it.

I think I ended up buying the same boat. I am not sure if the seller was giving me a line. But he said the trailer was always included, the problem was he was a motivated seller and needed the cash like yesterday. You didn't have it ready to go according to him.



That boat sold to a board member in San Antonio. He plans on taking it out here to Lake Travis, looking forward to seeing it.


POWERPLAY J 12-20-2011 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by On Time (Post 3575516)
I have seen the pics, but I don't have any. The guy that told me is reliable. His slip is across from mine. The people only had minor injuries on the one he rescued, and he said the driver told him he came down on the peak of a large wave after a huge jump.

Improbable but not impossible I guess. I still need pics to actually believe it. There's almost the same damage on the ones that have had accidents. It's not due to poor construction though.

Ran-Dom 32 12-20-2011 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3575486)
Didn't hear about that one. My buddy has a 42 lightning with a cabin that came apart. And a windshield about as strong. So I guess its possible... :drink:

are you referring to TJ's 42? if so, lake Erie was very angry that day :lolhit: , there was a 382 or 419 Fastec that took a severe beating as well...

TeamSaris 12-20-2011 04:07 PM

Sunny, Nordic or a Lavey

PhantomChaos 12-20-2011 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3575547)
Improbable but not impossible I guess. I still need pics to actually believe it. There's almost the same damage on the ones that have had accidents. It's not due to poor construction though.

If you're heading to big water, don't drive a potato chip out there!!! :drink::drink:

Quent 12-20-2011 04:26 PM

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I have a mid cuddy open bow Lavey 2750. I also have a wife of 42 years, 2 married kids both with two kids. Additionally, most of my friends are old like me. The setup is wonderful. Lots of outside room for 10 or so people.

Its great to go fast and then put the fam or friends on and chug to a restaurant on the lake. It ain't as sexy but practical. Quent

POWERPLAY J 12-20-2011 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3575611)
If you're heading to big water, don't drive a potato chip out there!!! :drink::drink:

You won't catch me out in big water in any open bow :lolhit:

PhantomChaos 12-20-2011 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Quent (Post 3575619)
I have a mid cuddy open bow Lavey 2750. I also have a wife of 42 years, 2 married kids both with two kids. Additionally, most of my friends are old like me. The setup is wonderful. Lots of outside room for 10 or so people.

Its great to go fast and then put the fam or friends on and chug to a restaurant on the lake. It ain't as sexy but practical. Quent

Great boat!

p.s. it is sexy!


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