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Earth shattering and something nobody else ever thought of, I dunno. Bad ass, absolutely!! :drink:
I just hope I get to see it!! |
Any updates yet ?
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Originally Posted by Skater30
(Post 3586609)
Kap, I'm really not sure why you are touting your setup as the "future" of performance boating for midsize cats under 32'. These setups have been around since the late '80s. And as far as the Optimax motors, Rick Bowling had a set on his 28 Skater way back in 2003 when they came out (I bought his 300PMs and put them on my 28). I think you're new boat is going to be a great rig for what you want it for, but it's definitely not revolutionary by any means. The Loan Shark 32 DW already exists, so it's not like nobody has seen a pleasure cockpit DW before. Please explain to me/us what is so revolutionary about your new setup and what makes it the "future" of performance boating. And if you think it's the reliability/fuel mileage equation, guess again! I've owned two 28s with outboards and my 30 with inboards, and I can tell you right now for certain that my inboard 30 is more reliable than either of my outboard 28s were (and I've owned 2.5s, 3.0s and 3.2s). As for fuel economy, cruising at the same speed (100mph) my inboard will not burn any more fuel than your outboard will, because you will be WOT burning 27 gph per motor, and I will be at 1/3 throttle burning the same gph. I think outboard powered boats are great (you know I own three of them), but on the size boat you are putting them on, they lose their advantages over the inboard packages. Again, don't take this the wrong way Kap, I think you are building a really nice piece, I just don't understand your posts about how it is going to revolutionize performance boating.
kap seems to be just really happy about his boat. the main point is that its a 32 not a 30. so in comparison the 32 dw should run with a 30 inboard with base hp. in this range boat, 2' of running surface is a big deal (28-32). normally the i/o's run better because of the added weight, hence the remark it should run with a 30 inboard. having owned a 28 skater w/300x, there's a big difference between just jumping to a 30 spectre w/300x's. i then moved to a 32b w 3x300x's and that was even a better ride than the 30's. the skater b is a monster when it comes to rough water. imo, you'd have to get a 32 b skater to run as fast a 28 with just twins to compare to the DW. thats the point KAP is possible trying to make without flat out saying it. and actually i think the DW's are running faster with comparable setups in a straight up comparison between skaters (28') know if you idea of offshore boating revloves around running on pond sized lakes in dead flat water than your at the wrong website. |
not detracting from kap enthousim but it is just another 32 dw with a different windscreen as i thought. good but nothing new as everyone has said. not the first boat with twin motors much less twin outboards as the concept has been around since at least the 50's. i can see this boat is basically very similar to the 32' spectras that are out there on the market already. it should run as good as they do with the same power. i do not think a 32 outboard boat will handle the rough water like even an a 30' inboard so the pond comment is of little relevance espically when the dw seems to be destined for the western lakes. how did your dw handle? i see the bottom is primered so did you have to do some work?
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Comment:
There have been a lot of conclusory statements by those that have neither seen this boat nor do they even know what the dimensions are for previous Doug Wrights or this current X-Cat Model. Doug has always built race boats and those that enjoyed the performance of those boats decided they wanted to use them in a pleasure environment. This new model is designed from the begining to be a pleasure boat. I have posted drawings on Performanceboats.com which illustrate what I am talking about. This boat is almost done and the article by Matt Trulio is a press release. We intend to debut the boat at the Lake Havasu Boat Show and Desert Storm via the Street Show and Poker Run. Once we debut the boat I would be more than happy to engage in a question and answer session on the finer points of the boat including speed numbers. Look for our display Doug Wright West at the Lake Havasu Boat Show and Desert Storm. KAP Footnote: We should be water testing here shortly and look forward to sharing our project with you all...Thanks! |
Originally Posted by skaterdave
(Post 3593596)
ok, the difference is the cockpit for the "pleasure" version. it is not just a cut down canopy boat, as some have pointed out. it's wider and has more room. i think 3 seats across the back.
kap seems to be just really happy about his boat. the main point is that its a 32 not a 30. so in comparison the 32 dw should run with a 30 inboard with base hp. in this range boat, 2' of running surface is a big deal (28-32). normally the i/o's run better because of the added weight, hence the remark it should run with a 30 inboard. having owned a 28 skater w/300x, there's a big difference between just jumping to a 30 spectre w/300x's. i then moved to a 32b w 3x300x's and that was even a better ride than the 30's. the skater b is a monster when it comes to rough water. imo, you'd have to get a 32 b skater to run as fast a 28 with just twins to compare to the DW. thats the point KAP is possible trying to make without flat out saying it. and actually i think the DW's are running faster with comparable setups in a straight up comparison between skaters (28') know if you idea of offshore boating revloves around running on pond sized lakes in dead flat water than your at the wrong website. |
Originally Posted by kap328
(Post 3593646)
Comment:
There have been a lot of conclusory statements by those that have neither seen this boat nor do they even know what the dimensions are for previous Doug Wrights or this current X-Cat Model. Doug has always built race boats and those that enjoyed the performance of those boats decided they wanted to use them in a pleasure environment. This new model is designed from the begining to be a pleasure boat. I have posted drawings on Performanceboats.com which illustrate what I am talking about. This boat is almost done and the article by Matt Trulio is a press release. We intend to debut the boat at the Lake Havasu Boat Show and Desert Storm via the Street Show and Poker Run. Once we debut the boat I would be more than happy to engage in a question and answer session on the finer points of the boat including speed numbers. Look for our display Doug Wright West at the Lake Havasu Boat Show and Desert Storm. KAP Footnote: We should be water testing here shortly and look forward to sharing our project with you all...Thanks! |
Originally Posted by Boatlesss
(Post 3593632)
i can see this boat is basically very similar to the 32' spectras that are out there on the market already. it should run as good as they do with the same power. i do not think a 32 outboard boat will handle the rough water like even an a 30' inboard so the pond comment is of little relevance espically when the dw seems to be destined for the western lakes. how did your dw handle? i see the bottom is primered so did you have to do some work?
if you know the history of spectre and then motion, you'll get the joke. as for where this particular dw is going, doesn't matter, my comment was based off experience of 4 different boats and not running on lakes. 2 foot of boat is a alot with this size boat. the 3rd dw, had the transom notch filled in for arnesons. i ended up with that boat and stuck 6's on it. the boat had no "rocker" in the bottom. that was DW's design based off of ob experience. had some different people look at it and guide me on what to do. we added 1/2" of rocker and the boat improved greatly. |
Originally Posted by kap328
(Post 3593646)
Comment:
There have been a lot of conclusory statements by those that have neither seen this boat nor do they even know what the dimensions are for previous Doug Wrights or this current X-Cat Model. Doug has always built race boats and those that enjoyed the performance of those boats decided they wanted to use them in a pleasure environment. This new model is designed from the begining to be a pleasure boat. I have posted drawings on Performanceboats.com which illustrate what I am talking about. This boat is almost done and the article by Matt Trulio is a press release. We intend to debut the boat at the Lake Havasu Boat Show and Desert Storm via the Street Show and Poker Run. Once we debut the boat I would be more than happy to engage in a question and answer session on the finer points of the boat including speed numbers. Look for our display Doug Wright West at the Lake Havasu Boat Show and Desert Storm. KAP Footnote: We should be water testing here shortly and look forward to sharing our project with you all...Thanks! A small distinction, but an important one, at least in my little world. And all that said, I can't wait to see it in Havasu. |
Can someone post some more photos as they become available please.
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