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soldier4402 01-30-2012 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by East Coast B (Post 3604936)
My suggestion is to bump up to 30-32'.. there are some great deals out there on boats in that size range and will handle a LOT more water than something 29 and under.

Bottom line, length and weight will get you the best ride. Length to stretch across one wave to the next and weight to bust through what you don't get over.

31 sonic, 32 Active thunder, 29-31 Formula just to name a few... go as big as you can afford! You won't regret it! Good luck!

Take in mind tow vehicle as well. You start getting up above 30ft and more and you better have a diesel.

POWERPLAY J 01-30-2012 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Poker~N~Run (Post 3604878)
Sorry the way I was trying to explain it came out wrong. Brain was faster than fingers(: the warlock has a soft landing for a boat with a pad. Far faster speeds because of pad and on a warlock it has an angle v to it. A true deep v will go in smoother but will be slower. Thanks for correcting me.

I just like messing with rlj676 :daz::lolhit:

POWERPLAY J 01-30-2012 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by A.O. Razor (Post 3604941)
J

I think you have that turned upside down there buddy. The pad often have less deadrise than the rest of the bottom. A "big" pad can actually create a hard landing hull.:thankyouthankyou:

See post above. :party-smiley-004:

chamb68 01-30-2012 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=golfmaxgolf;3604490]

Originally Posted by Poker~N~Run (Post 3604486)

+1 I did ask where he was boating? Now that i think about it the Newbee has yet to chime back in? HELLO

Lake Ontario & St. Lawrence River...US - Canada Border

chamb68 01-30-2012 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3604979)
Take in mind tow vehicle as well. You start getting up above 30ft and more and you better have a diesel.

Yes, that is my next issue...can't tow anything heavier that 8500 lbs.

I'm currently looking at a 2006 Sonic Prowler 26', but it only has a single 496 HO...would like more speed...do like the cabin

A.O. Razor 01-30-2012 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3604996)
See post above. :party-smiley-004:

Ok ok, got it:drink: Funny guy:lolhit:


Originally Posted by chamb68 (Post 3605018)
Yes, that is my next issue...can't tow anything heavier that 8500 lbs.

I'm currently looking at a 2006 Sonic Prowler 26', but it only has a single 496 HO...would like more speed...do like the cabin

Are you talking 8500 including trailer, fuel and gear ect?

Stormrider 01-30-2012 12:26 PM

Reach for this one.
http://www.nationalpowerboat.com/28-...under-2005.htm

ActiveFun 01-30-2012 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Smarty (Post 3604462)
Rough Water, and fast in rough water, and newer and 26'-29' based on that criteria alone....Activator (Rage)

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43261-en.html

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/14103

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/12674

Your choice above 86 mph, 114 mph, or 97mph. Not a bad choice, depends on how well your wallet is filled. I like the 2010 Activator with the 740 hp motor, Imco Extreme drive, for $74,900. Nice almost new boat that will run 97 mph, very nice.

+1
In addition, my friend has a 2009 Activator 30 with a MRD 557ci 900hp engine for sale. It only has 20hrs on the engine. PM me for details.
Thanks

POWERPLAY J 01-30-2012 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by chamb68 (Post 3605018)
Yes, that is my next issue...can't tow anything heavier that 8500 lbs.

I'm currently looking at a 2006 Sonic Prowler 26', but it only has a single 496 HO...would like more speed...do like the cabin

29 Warlock 500HP. Fast and handles the rough. A 1/2 ton will tow it no problem. 4x4 would be a must for steep ramps.

soldier4402 01-30-2012 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by chamb68 (Post 3605018)
Yes, that is my next issue...can't tow anything heavier that 8500 lbs.

I'm currently looking at a 2006 Sonic Prowler 26', but it only has a single 496 HO...would like more speed...do like the cabin

Yeah well My fountain with twins is 7k dry with with about a 2k trailer. And fountains are on the lighter end in comparative to other brands. Yeah you go one engine and you drop 500lbs. But I would think you would have to stick to single engine 27ft or under. a 27ft fever is still a nice boat. I am biased and there are other boats out there that are just as nice and maybe better. But overall fountain is going to give the most goodies compared to a baja or checkmate. A lot more of the premium parts come standard on them vs other brands. If you live upstate be prepared to travel, not a whole lot up here for sale. Try lake george

I did see plenty of 30-33ft performance boats being towed with older tahoes and such this summer, had my scratching my head. Another thing is check the trailer if its aluminum or you get aluminum I would think the weight savings on a trailer the size your looking for could be 1000lbs.

Smarty 01-30-2012 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveFun (Post 3605036)
+1
In addition, my friend has a 2009 Activator 30 with a MRD 557ci 900hp engine for sale. It only has 20hrs on the engine. PM me for details.
Thanks

What is he asking?

The 2010 Activator with the 740hp is asking $74,900. Maybe a lower price could be negotiated. That is alot of boat, that will ride great for a helluva price when you look at it. Stunned it is still forsale.

golfmaxgolf 01-30-2012 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by chamb68 (Post 3605018)
Yes, that is my next issue...can't tow anything heavier that 8500 lbs.

I'm currently looking at a 2006 Sonic Prowler 26', but it only has a single 496 HO...would like more speed...do like the cabin

Get a Survey! $ well spent. Looks fairly clean, Rear seat tops look broke down from walking on them. Leaky plastic
Faria gauges, Less than high end tabs. Gonna cost some $'s to ship aswell. There are some deals for like $ + - on this side of the country. Much easier and cheaper to ship south to north as opposed to west to east?

rlj676 01-30-2012 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3604799)
Take your hand and smack a tub full of water, then turn you hand and chop the water. Smacking the water hurts less and is softer every time :lolhit:

Haha, that's the way to explain it! ;) I was wondering what the logic would have been to explain that one....but see below.


Originally Posted by Poker~N~Run (Post 3604878)
Sorry the way I was trying to explain it came out wrong. Brain was faster than fingers(: the warlock has a soft landing for a boat with a pad. Far faster speeds because of pad and on a warlock it has an angle v to it. A true deep v will go in smoother but will be slower. Thanks for correcting me.

That makes sense, I see what you meant now.

I do think a Warlock probably would ride better than a boat with a big pad like most Velocities I think. I always smile when someone asks about a good rough water boat and river rocket's like the smaller Velocities are mentioned.

bert4332 01-30-2012 09:24 PM

You "didn't" say that you did not want want a MCOB but you did say you wanted a boat great in the rough. She comes alive in it. Quite a few guys on this board that can testify that the boat loves the rough. Listed as a 29', but it's 30.5' boat.

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...eycraft2-2.jpg

http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/...era/?start=all

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/13939

chamb68 01-30-2012 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by A.O. Razor (Post 3605026)
Ok ok, got it:drink: Funny guy:lolhit:



Are you talking 8500 including trailer, fuel and gear ect?

Yes...why ???

A.O. Razor 01-31-2012 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by chamb68 (Post 3605695)
Yes...why ???

Not sure about your question. The funny guy thing was to POWERPLAY for hes bathtub post. Not meant as an insult to you in any way.

Why I'm asking about the weight, is because if it is only the boat, that leaves more options open. If it is complete, it narrows it down somewhat. These two run 77-79 and can with a bit of tweaking hit 80+. Both are very good boats, and true to size. You can always make an offer, you could get a lot of boat for the coin.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42607-en.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42771-en.html

Dave M 01-31-2012 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by chris@uga (Post 3604509)
I'm a big fan of the Y2K Superboat and also the Rage/Activator. I like simplistic, uncluttered hot rods.

How would you compare the pluses and minuses of these two? I usually only see Superboats with 525 power or smaller. Are there any with power in the 700-800hp range and what do they run?

700 = high 80's
800 = low 90's

Mine has a 525, I like to boat, not wrench. Runs great in rough or flat water, longer than most of the boats mentioned, can be towed with 1/2 ton truck, good size cabin, cockpit, and engine compartment.


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