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chamb68 01-29-2012 12:21 PM

Advice on a new(er) boat
 
I'm looking for a new(er) 26' - 29' boat to handle big water...suggestions ???

Perlmudder 01-29-2012 01:04 PM

pantera

golfmaxgolf 01-29-2012 01:27 PM

Big Water
 
Where Do you do your boating?

Baja555 01-29-2012 02:31 PM

yeah, Pantera, warlock, sonic if speed isnt an issue

rlj676 01-29-2012 03:36 PM

How new?

My research said Pantera, Active Thunder, Powerplay. (You can see what I chose, but they're hard to come by.)

GTOFFSHORE 01-29-2012 04:55 PM

Warlock in big water. We run 80+ in 2ft seas. It has a pad so nice soft landing. Of course I am biased but I have owned lots others and hold onto this boat. Only negative is the build quality is so so. We updated a lot of things. This is kind of standard in this size boat. New equals would be the vendetta. But the are like 200k.

bulldogs 01-29-2012 04:57 PM

Laveycraft 29 NuEra - exceptional build quality and fast hull

mach1magnum 01-29-2012 04:59 PM

what if speed is an issue what to buy in this size if it is all about speed?

rgrgoog 01-29-2012 05:16 PM

Get a Fountain

mach1magnum 01-29-2012 05:21 PM

how does velocity compare to fountain ?

golfmaxgolf 01-29-2012 05:47 PM

Rut Row
 

Originally Posted by rgrgoog (Post 3604433)
Get a Fountain

So you would have him in a 32' Then ? Even still where Are You boating?

Smarty 01-29-2012 06:09 PM

Rough Water, and fast in rough water, and newer and 26'-29' based on that criteria alone....Activator (Rage)

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43261-en.html

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/14103

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/12674

Your choice above 86 mph, 114 mph, or 97mph. Not a bad choice, depends on how well your wallet is filled. I like the 2010 Activator with the 740 hp motor, Imco Extreme drive, for $74,900. Nice almost new boat that will run 97 mph, very nice.

A.O. Razor 01-29-2012 06:10 PM

Velocitys are very fast straight bottom boats, not a bad deal. And yes, to have a 29' Fountain you'd need a 32 Fever. What is your price range? There's Sutphen as well. Personally I really don't like the look of Panteras, but hey, that's me.

Payton 01-29-2012 06:42 PM

What is your definition of big water? someone mentioned 2' waves. I don't think that's big water. If I had to run in 5' waves in a 28' boat, I would want an Active Thunder.

GTOFFSHORE 01-29-2012 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by mach1magnum (Post 3604416)
what if speed is an issue what to buy in this size if it is all about speed?

If its just speed. 29kryptonite, 30 phantom, Superboat. Warlock is not fast in glass. Fountain 29 is like a big 25 so that is up to you, but it's no 30. The other are all almost 30. They were built for f1. You can find light layups in most of these boats.

golfmaxgolf 01-29-2012 06:51 PM

Or Perhaps the aforementioned Pantera with some Really big Tabs!

GTOFFSHORE 01-29-2012 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=Payton;3604475]What is your definition of big water? someone mentioned 2' waves. I don't think that's big water. If I had to run in 5' waves in a 28' boat, I would want an Active Thunder.[/pQUOTE]

I don't think anybody would want to be in 5's in a 30 on purpose at speed. That's not boating that's torture(: I don't care who makes it that won't be fun.

golfmaxgolf 01-29-2012 07:01 PM

[QUOTE=Poker~N~Run;3604486]

Originally Posted by Payton (Post 3604475)
What is your definition of big water? someone mentioned 2' waves. I don't think that's big water. If I had to run in 5' waves in a 28' boat, I would want an Active Thunder.[/pQUOTE]

I don't think anybody would want to be in 5's in a 30 on purpose at speed. That's not boating that's torture(: I don't care who makes it that won't be fun.

+1 I did ask where he was boating? Now that i think about it the Newbee has yet to chime back in? HELLO

chamb68 01-29-2012 07:06 PM

Lake Ontario & St. Lawrence River...US - Canada Border

OL40SVX 01-29-2012 07:19 PM

If your looking for a new boat Outerlimits is unvailing their new SV29 at the Miami boat show in a few weeks. If you are not looking for new I would seriously consider any of the 29 Activators over the rest.

chris@uga 01-29-2012 07:25 PM

I'm a big fan of the Y2K Superboat and also the Rage/Activator. I like simplistic, uncluttered hot rods.

How would you compare the pluses and minuses of these two? I usually only see Superboats with 525 power or smaller. Are there any with power in the 700-800hp range and what do they run?

chamb68 01-29-2012 07:27 PM

Why hasn't anyone mentioned Donzi?

A.O. Razor 01-29-2012 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by chamb68 (Post 3604512)
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Donzi?

Because in that size there are many other choices that are better. Even a Formula 292 Fastech would be better in my book. You haven't answered the question about what your budget range is. Any preference to single vs. twin? If money is not too much of a deal, Dan's suggestion of the new Outerlimits SV29 is something to look into. Get one with Ilmor power though:coolcowboy:

golfmaxgolf 01-29-2012 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by chamb68 (Post 3604512)
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Donzi?

I feel as though this guy is "runnin a lttle hot" ? anybody? just sayin

A.O. Razor 01-29-2012 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by golfmaxgolf (Post 3604522)
I feel as though i'm "runnin a lttle hot" ? anybody? just sayin

Eeh???:party-smiley-004:

rlj676 01-29-2012 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Poker~N~Run (Post 3604412)
Warlock in big water. We run 80+ in 2ft seas. It has a pad so nice soft landing. Of course I am biased but I have owned lots others and hold onto this boat. Only negative is the build quality is so so. We updated a lot of things. This is kind of standard in this size boat. New equals would be the vendetta. But the are like 200k.

Could you explain how a pad makes for a softer landing?

chamb68 01-29-2012 08:03 PM

Under $50k

GregGuimond 01-29-2012 08:03 PM

Find yourself an old school Team Warlock 28 "World Class Offshore" from about 1987 to about 1994-1995. 24 Degree deadrise and divinycell core. You would be out the door for $30k or less and have a great rough water boat. Try and find a single if you can, they came both twins and single.

OL40SVX 01-29-2012 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by chamb68 (Post 3604541)
Under $50k

Buy a Sutphen 26 or 30/31.

hotjava66 01-29-2012 08:10 PM

Pantera, Powerplay, Saber, Active Thunder, Activator, Laveycraft, Joker, Sutphen are all worth looking at. Pick your particular flavor, most important is to have what you like and want.

HustlerTech 01-29-2012 08:19 PM

Hustler has a 26 Classic and a 29 Rockit... We just have completed a 29 Rockit with an Ilmor 725 and the boat went 93mph. Both the 29 Rockit and the 26 Classic will be on display at the Miami Boat show this year.

andyt25 01-29-2012 08:46 PM

if you actually want a decent size cabin look at sonic they're great in rough water but definately not going to be the fastest in light chop I don't live too far away from you you're more then welcome to look at mine to get an idea of the layout once the snows gone

camptappakeg69 01-29-2012 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by chamb68 (Post 3604494)
Lake Ontario & St. Lawrence River...US - Canada Border

Very happy with the ride of my 25' active thunder in the Ontario slop....handles 2~3's very well for a 25ft boat....been stuck in 3~6's with deeper holes coming back from the lakeview beaches and it handled well but I try to avoid them days, and stay in calmer waters in henderson bay area when it kicks up.

POWERPLAY J 01-30-2012 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by rlj676 (Post 3604532)
Could you explain how a pad makes for a softer landing?

Take your hand and smack a tub full of water, then turn you hand and chop the water. Smacking the water hurts less and is softer every time :lolhit:

GTOFFSHORE 01-30-2012 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3604799)
Take your hand and smack a tub full of water, then turn you hand and chop the water. Smacking the water hurts less and is softer every time :lolhit:

Sorry the way I was trying to explain it came out wrong. Brain was faster than fingers(: the warlock has a soft landing for a boat with a pad. Far faster speeds because of pad and on a warlock it has an angle v to it. A true deep v will go in smoother but will be slower. Thanks for correcting me.

Tom A. 01-30-2012 09:59 AM

If you want the security of a twin engine set up and a good size cabin, the 28 Donzi Zx is a great boat.

I had a 29' Kryptonite and loved it!
Great speed, rough water handling, and ran with much bigger boats. It did not have much cabin height due to it being a lower profile sit down boat. There is a reason it dominated the offshore race circuit in the F-1 class.

Teo 01-30-2012 10:00 AM

Baja 29 OL is a huge boat for its 29 feet.

I was impressed with how it tackled te ruff waves at the baltic sea this summer. The hull is great but some stuff, like the dash etc was a bit lose after that...

East Coast B 01-30-2012 10:51 AM

My suggestion is to bump up to 30-32'.. there are some great deals out there on boats in that size range and will handle a LOT more water than something 29 and under.

Bottom line, length and weight will get you the best ride. Length to stretch across one wave to the next and weight to bust through what you don't get over.

31 sonic, 32 Active thunder, 29-31 Formula just to name a few... go as big as you can afford! You won't regret it! Good luck!

A.O. Razor 01-30-2012 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3604799)
Take your hand and smack a tub full of water, then turn you hand and chop the water. Smacking the water hurts less and is softer every time :lolhit:

J

I think you have that turned upside down there buddy. The pad often have less deadrise than the rest of the bottom. A "big" pad can actually create a hard landing hull.:thankyouthankyou:

soldier4402 01-30-2012 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by chamb68 (Post 3604494)
Lake Ontario & St. Lawrence River...US - Canada Border

Im in the same area and havea 29 fountain with twins. Works great. Not so sure you would want to be in anything more than 2-3fts going fast. That 29 has no issues with river


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