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Karaokemike 02-14-2012 04:57 PM

I am for the family in filing, forget the money, they want answers, and this is the only real method of the getting to the who, what, when, where, how and why their loved one died. I am for the process, the end of money in this suit is not the ultimate goal. I could be entirely wrong, but you asked, I answered.

Smarty, I am +1 for your answer here!

I agree that people sue to much in this country and most of the time for all the wrong reasons. As an event promoter we insure to the max and cover anyone involved with the event in anyway shape or form. My family is even named on the insurance to protect them. People die in extreme sports and I agree its a face of life. In this case I do think it was a unnecessary death. You cannot take someone to court and say why did they die and for what reason. At least I don't think you can. People need to be held accountable for actions taking leading up to the death. I believe and hope that's what the case is here.

soldier4402 02-14-2012 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 3617641)
I do not think so

Money will not bring them back
I might fight for change, and press to raise money for needed equiptment, but i would NOT sue for MONEY

Beside we are talking about a race that has higher risk, and the participants are aware of the risk and choose to race based on that fact. If somone is not happy with the race standards then they should not put themselfs in harms way

Not sure why and example of my wife (dont have one) or my daughter (do not have one of those either ) has any relevance it isnt even in the same arena for an example

How much risk can you take out of a race where machines are going 150mph on an unpredictable track like water?
Everything is risk, every breath you take is a better chance of getting a heart attack or getting cancer. Everytime you leave your driveway you could die, should we sue the state because they built the roads. Participating in a race is a voluntary action not mandatory and not something you need to sustain life. You can not take risk out of everything and taking risk out of things can only go so far. Whats next taking risk out of combat, lets sue the ammo makers for every soldier that dies. No its a part of life. Do we sue the store for selling alcohol to somebody who then DUI's and kills? This behavior has to stop all it does it raise insurance premiums and puts more laws in place for the rest of us.

Like others have said use the money to make awareness, create better safety products, and educate people. Or use money to create schoarships to educate people. With that said I hope the case gets thrown out.

boatme 02-14-2012 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3617652)
Because you keep saying sueing will not bring back a "loved one". EVERYONE knows that. Okay.....so you don't have either of those so you may not understand? If SBI screwed up and killed your.......never mind. You haven't lost someone like this person has. They claim to want to make change. We'll see. If SBI goes down due to this......so be it. Race standards? What if SBI says the race and support level is standard is 999, and it is only provided at 333?

I do have a son and yes I've lost people close to me

I will say it again I would fight for change not for money
these LAW SUITs are always about money and at the end they do not donate the money to a cause that helps to solve the problem

boatme 02-14-2012 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3617652)
Because you keep saying sueing will not bring back a "loved one". EVERYONE knows that. Okay.....so you don't have either of those so you may not understand? If SBI screwed up and killed your.......never mind. You haven't lost someone like this person has. They claim to want to make change. We'll see. If SBI goes down due to this.. ....so be it. Race standards? What if SBI says the race and support level is standard is 999, and it is only provided at 333?

by the way have you ever been involved in a lawsuit over a wrongful death? well I have so I think I come to this conversation a little better informed om this subject

PhantomChaos 02-14-2012 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 3617702)
by the way have you ever been involved in a lawsuit over a wrongful death? well I have so I think I come to this conversation a little better informed om this subject

I know you have been involved in a previous suit. I have not. I have read yours over and over and so I understand where you are coming from. This lawsuit is about possible safety negligence on SBI's part. Totally different from your suit. Your suit seems like it was crappy deal and it sucks.

PARADISE ISLAND 02-14-2012 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by Karaokemike (Post 3617655)
I am for the family in filing, forget the money, they want answers, and this is the only real method of the getting to the who, what, when, where, how and why their loved one died. I am for the process, the end of money in this suit is not the ultimate goal. I could be entirely wrong, but you asked, I answered.

Smarty, I am +1 for your answer here!

I agree that people sue to much in this country and most of the time for all the wrong reasons. As an event promoter we insure to the max and cover anyone involved with the event in anyway shape or form. My family is even named on the insurance to protect them. People die in extreme sports and I agree its a face of life. In this case I do think it was a unnecessary death. You cannot take someone to court and say why did they die and for what reason. At least I don't think you can. People need to be held accountable for actions taking leading up to the death. I believe and hope that's what the case is here.

What was the Gieco vrs SBI suit about?:confused:

ActiveThunder 02-14-2012 06:43 PM

Perfect.

I call bull ****. Take the risk and make sure your family is covered before you do it.

Marc, you explain about my kid, doctors, misdiagnosis and cancer with a 14 year old and no law suit brought.

They are human. Doctors, racers, school crossing guards. Mistakes are made.

Point the finger at me if I die on a poker run or simply testing a boat for speed shame on me.

Stop the suit. It is greed.

POWERPLAY J 02-14-2012 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3617747)
Perfect.

I call bull ****. Take the risk and make sure your family is covered before you do it.

Marc, you explain about my kid, doctors, misdiagnosis and cancer with a 14 year old and no law suit brought.

They are human. Doctors, racers, school crossing guards. Mistakes are made.

Point the finger at me if I die on a poker run or simply testing a boat for speed shame on me.

Stop the suit. It is greed.

I wish the rest of the world thought like you and I Pat.:)

Comanche3Six 02-14-2012 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3617747)
Perfect.

I call bull ****. Take the risk and make sure your family is covered before you do it.

Marc, you explain about my kid, doctors, misdiagnosis and cancer with a 14 year old and no law suit brought.

They are human. Doctors, racers, school crossing guards. Mistakes are made.

Point the finger at me if I die on a poker run or simply testing a boat for speed shame on me.

Stop the suit. It is greed.

I think so.

Snoworks 02-14-2012 07:32 PM

They are human. Doctors, racers, school crossing guards. Mistakes are made.



I have to say that the above sentance hits the nail on the head. This is so true and it can't be overlooked. We all know that the issue hear is how long it took for the divers to get to the people in the boat.

Who's at fault? What is the appropriate amount of recovery time? ETC.

This does not seem like an appropriate case to sue, based on the "assumed risks" of the people willing to risk there lives in the first place. This is just my opinoin.


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