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Matt Trulio 02-13-2012 09:54 AM

Gratton Lawsuit Filed
 
Latest update, http://speedonthewater.com/in-the-ne...uit-filed.html

boatme 02-13-2012 10:08 AM

:( Lawsuits Can't bring loved ones back :(

Cash Bar 02-13-2012 10:23 AM

Shame Shame.

precisiondetails 02-13-2012 10:59 AM

Yet another blood sucking piece of trash attorney has brain washed another family!!!! Shame shame!

AJ POWERPLAY 02-13-2012 11:08 AM

Ridiculous, I bet if they could ask Mr. Gratton he would be pissed at the greed against the sport he obviously loved.

bajaholic 02-13-2012 11:11 AM

RIP......... Off Shore Racing/Poker Runs in Florida.

Panther 02-13-2012 02:52 PM

Question;
Does anyone know what Page Motorsports place is in the filings? Has Alweiss filed suit against Page Motorsports, in addition to SBI?

What if there was something wrong with the boat that prevented a timely rescue?

PARADISE ISLAND 02-13-2012 05:27 PM

Sad!Everybody knows Mikes agenda when he turns on him or them we'll see how they feel!Bye Bye offshore racing as we knew it!:angry-smiley-038:

PARADISE ISLAND 02-13-2012 10:36 PM

:evilb:QIf you drop a Snake& a Lawyer off a cliff which one hits 1st?AWho cares!:lolhit:Q How can you tell a lawyer is lying?AOther lawyers look interested!:evilb:

boatme 02-14-2012 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3616617)
Question;
Does anyone know what Page Motorsports place is in the filings? Has Alweiss filed suit against Page Motorsports, in addition to SBI?

What if there was something wrong with the boat that prevented a timely rescue?

Interesting question Would be interesting to see the names of all the enities that are named in the lawsuit

Anyone have access ?

flat rate 02-14-2012 08:27 AM

Interesting that SBI is being sued and he drowned in a boat with onboard air and aux air.

PhantomChaos 02-14-2012 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 3616373)
:( Lawsuits Can't bring loved ones back :(

Looks like they gave them time to do something, and they did nothing. If SBI was negligent, the widow has the right to do this don't you think?

sean stinson 02-14-2012 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by flat rate (Post 3617227)
Interesting that SBI is being sued and he drowned in a boat with onboard air and aux air.

Air only lasts so long when you are underwater!!

mike tkach 02-14-2012 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 3616426)
Yet another blood sucking piece of trash attorney has brain washed another family!!!! Shame shame!

as i previously stated,thefamily went to the attourney,and hired him,the attourney did not go to the family,so why is he a blood sucker?he is doing what the family hired him to do.

mike tkach 02-14-2012 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by bajaholic (Post 3616443)
RIP......... Off Shore Racing/Poker Runs in Florida.

do you really think this suit will put an end to offshore racing in florida,i hope not,but with a law on the books that states sponsers can be held responsible,you may be right.

rchevelle71 02-14-2012 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3617247)
thefamily went to the attourney,and hired him,the attourney did not go to the family,


Are you sure of this???

brivander 02-14-2012 09:32 AM

Oh god, here we go again...why don't we just link the other thread and save the trouble.

C_Spray 02-14-2012 11:50 AM

Before posting on this thread, make sure that you read through this one first:

Original Gratton lawsuit thread

boatme 02-14-2012 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3617231)
Looks like they gave them time to do something, and they did nothing. If SBI was negligent, the widow has the right to do this don't you think?

Having the right and actually doing it are two differnt things Do I think she has the right? YEP Do I think she should sue ? NOPE

boatme 02-14-2012 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3617247)
as i previously stated,thefamily went to the attourney,and hired him,the attourney did not go to the family,so why is he a blood sucker?he is doing what the family hired him to do.

I know with the deaths at our event, the Blood suckers were making phonecalls to family and to people involved within one day

Smarty 02-14-2012 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3617262)
Are you sure of this???

Florida attorneys as well as attorneys in New Jersey are not permitted to make a phone call to an accident victim(s), or the the family of an accident victim. Written communication is permitted in Florida after 30 days have passed since the accident, "In addition, if the written communication concerns an action relating to an accident or disaster involving the recipient or a relative of the recipient, the communication may not be sent until 30 days after the accident or disaster."[/B]

The family calls the attorney, that is how it works. Attorneys are not ambulance chasers as some people may want to portray them. The attorneys that do try to solicit via phone and or violate the rules of ethics will get disbarred or sanctioned, plain and simple.

Hope that clears up the speculation.

36Tango 02-14-2012 12:57 PM

There is a billboard being put up right this minute outside my office. In big letters "Have you been hurt at work? Call us at ......."

Nice.

boatme 02-14-2012 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Smarty (Post 3617461)
Florida attorneys as well as attorneys in New Jersey are not permitted to make a phone call to an accident victim(s), or the the family of an accident victim. Written communication is permitted in Florida after 30 days have passed since the accident, "In addition, if the written communication concerns an action relating to an accident or disaster involving the recipient or a relative of the recipient, the communication may not be sent until 30 days after the accident or disaster."[/B]

The family calls the attorney, that is how it works. Attorneys are not ambulance chasers as some people may want to portray them. The attorneys that do try to solicit via phone and or violate the rules of ethics will get disbarred or sanctioned, plain and simple.

Hope that clears up the speculation.

That is not how it worked here

Is it differnt in Michigan??

So what if the attorney says to a mutual friend of the family (If they need anything have em call me ! Does that violate the rules ??

boatme 02-14-2012 01:08 PM

Smarty do you think attorneys should be able to have a "No fee guarantee "?
When a defendant does not get the same consideration

Just curious on your take on this

soldier4402 02-14-2012 01:18 PM

stupid, so everytime someone dies because they willing engage in an extreme activity the family is going to sue somebody. People are sick, burry your loves ones say a prayer and move on.

POWERPLAY J 02-14-2012 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3617488)
stupid so everytime someone dies because they willing engage in an extreme acticity the family is going to sue somebody. People are sick, burry your loves ones say a prayer and move on.

Agreed!

boatme 02-14-2012 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3617488)
stupid so everytime someone dies because they willing engage in an extreme acticity the family is going to sue somebody. People are sick, burry your loves ones say a prayer and move on.

Problem is the prayer is "oh lord please bring me wealth from the death of this loved one"

Not sure if that is the family prayer, or the lawyers prayer, but I am sure it is one of them if not both

Smarty 02-14-2012 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 3617481)
Smarty do you think attorneys should be able to have a "No fee guarantee "?
When a defendant does not get the same consideration

Just curious on your take on this

Defendants in criminal cases are fee based (flat fees), or by the hour. That is how I practice.

Personal injury and wrongful death typically are the 33% of the recovery based fee. I do not practice PI work.

I cannot, and do not guarantee outcomes for criminal cases. The discovery will drive the level of guilt or innocence. It is not as much of a mystery, regarding the outcome/verdict, as some may think.

Liberty is at stake in criminal proceedings. In the wrongful death suit a life was lost, but the only outcome for the court to determine in the end is who is at fault, and what is just compensation for the death.

I am for the family in filing, forget the money, they want answers, and this is the only real method of the getting to the who, what, when, where, how and why their loved one died. I am for the process, the end of money in this suit is not the ultimate goal. I could be entirely wrong, but you asked, I answered.

Stephen

ROB FREEMAN 02-14-2012 02:34 PM

who ,what ,where , when .n why . ? i think them dont really need a super smart lawyer to answer them questions , MONEY ,MONEY ,MONEY , thats why . i might be wrong though . they were racing in rough water at a high rate of speed ? someone got hurt ? i could actually see that happening . i cant believe they didnt make them racers sighn that race at youre own risk . cant even swim now adays without seeing that somewhere ?????

PARADISE ISLAND 02-14-2012 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Smarty (Post 3617461)
Florida attorneys as well as attorneys in New Jersey are not permitted to make a phone call to an accident victim(s), or the the family of an accident victim. Written communication is permitted in Florida after 30 days have passed since the accident, "In addition, if the written communication concerns an action relating to an accident or disaster involving the recipient or a relative of the recipient, the communication may not be sent until 30 days after the accident or disaster."[/B]

The family calls the attorney, that is how it works. Attorneys are not ambulance chasers as some people may want to portray them. The attorneys that do try to solicit via phone and or violate the rules of ethics will get disbarred or sanctioned, plain and simple.

Hope that clears up the speculation.

So Mike A broke the law??:daz:

C_Spray 02-14-2012 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by C_Spray (Post 3617431)
Before posting on this thread, make sure that you read through this one first:

Original Gratton lawsuit thread

Repeat.... :rolleyes:

soldier4402 02-14-2012 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Smarty (Post 3617514)
I am for the family in filing, forget the money, they want answers, and this is the only real method of the getting to the who, what, when, where, how and why their loved one died. I am for the process, the end of money in this suit is not the ultimate goal. I could be entirely wrong, but you asked, I answered.

Stephen

Umm let me see drive a boat going 140 and crash, let alone people drown in bath tubs and die falling off bikes. What more do you want to find out? In the mean time clog up the court system and use MY tax dollars to pay a judge to judge the case.

Fine about money, then sue for the truth and dont ask for coin, but you or any other lawyer wouldnt be satisfied with that.

soldier4402 02-14-2012 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by ROB FREEMAN (Post 3617542)
who ,what ,where , when .n why . ? i think them dont really need a super smart lawyer to answer them questions , MONEY ,MONEY ,MONEY , thats why . i might be wrong though . they were racing in rough water at a high rate of speed ? someone got hurt ? i could actually see that happening . i cant believe they didnt make them racers sighn that race at youre own risk . cant even swim now adays without seeing that somewhere ?????

Agreed and cases like this make our legal system a joke and make a mockery out of legit cases. Make sure you dont spill that coffee, it might be hott.

POWERPLAY J 02-14-2012 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by C_Spray (Post 3617579)
Repeat.... :rolleyes:

:lolhit:

rchevelle71 02-14-2012 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Smarty (Post 3617461)
Florida attorneys as well as attorneys in New Jersey are not permitted to make a phone call to an accident victim(s), or the the family of an accident victim. Written communication is permitted in Florida after 30 days have passed since the accident, "In addition, if the written communication concerns an action relating to an accident or disaster involving the recipient or a relative of the recipient, the communication may not be sent until 30 days after the accident or disaster."[/B]

The family calls the attorney, that is how it works. Attorneys are not ambulance chasers as some people may want to portray them. The attorneys that do try to solicit via phone and or violate the rules of ethics will get disbarred or sanctioned, plain and simple.

Hope that clears up the speculation.

Gotcha,

That may be true,

BUT Both the attorney, and the family were involved with boat racing, and reside relatively close to each other, they may have been friends for all I know. I dont think it is coincidence that the one attorney they picked out of the yellow pages happened to be be a former boat racer, APBA rep, and not a huge SBI fan. Was it more than 30 days from the time the accident happened until this attorney got involved? I am not sticking up for either side, and really don't care, it is the family's right to sue if they want, just tryin' to make sure nobody is speculating on who convinced who to sue without the facts.

boatme 02-14-2012 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Smarty (Post 3617514)
Defendants in criminal cases are fee based (flat fees), or by the hour. That is how I practice.

Personal injury and wrongful death typically are the 33% of the recovery based fee. I do not practice PI work.

I cannot, and do not guarantee outcomes for criminal cases. The discovery will drive the level of guilt or innocence. It is not as much of a mystery, regarding the outcome/verdict, as some may think.

Liberty is at stake in criminal proceedings. In the wrongful death suit a life was lost, but the only outcome for the court to determine in the end is who is at fault, and what is just compensation for the death.

I am for the family in filing, forget the money, they want answers, and this is the only real method of the getting to the who, what, when, where, how and why their loved one died. I am for the process, the end of money in this suit is not the ultimate goal. I could be entirely wrong, but you asked, I answered.

Stephen

Thanks for the responce

PhantomChaos 02-14-2012 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 3617433)
Having the right and actually doing it are two differnt things Do I think she has the right? YEP Do I think she should sue ? NOPE

Your wife (or daughter) isn't dead because an ORG might have been negligent. You might think differently on the other side of the equation.

boatme 02-14-2012 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3617636)
Your wife (or daughter) isn't dead because an ORG might have been negligent. You might think differently on the other side of the equation.

I do not think so

Money will not bring them back
I might fight for change, and press to raise money for needed equiptment, but i would NOT sue for MONEY

Beside we are talking about a race that has higher risk, and the participants are aware of the risk and choose to race based on that fact. If somone is not happy with the race standards then they should not put themselfs in harms way

Not sure why and example of my wife (dont have one) or my daughter (do not have one of those either ) has any relevance it isnt even in the same arena for an example

Quinlan 02-14-2012 04:53 PM

Just out of couriousity being as Racing was involved.
Did the family of the Indy driver that crashed and died file suit ?

PhantomChaos 02-14-2012 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 3617641)
I do not think so

Money will not bring them back
I might fight for change, and press to raise money for needed equiptment, but i would NOT sue for MONEY

Beside we are talking about a race that has higher risk, and the participants are aware of the risk and choose to race based on that fact. If somone is not happy with the race standards then they should not put themselfs in harms way

Not sure why and example of my wife (dont have one) or my daughter (do not have one of those either ) has any relevance it isnt even in the same arena for an example

Because you keep saying sueing will not bring back a "loved one". EVERYONE knows that. Okay.....so you don't have either of those so you may not understand? If SBI screwed up and killed your.......never mind. You haven't lost someone like this person has. They claim to want to make change. We'll see. If SBI goes down due to this......so be it. Race standards? What if SBI says the race and support level is standard is 999, and it is only provided at 333?


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