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Old 02-13-2012 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gmhdfan
Thank You. When was the last time we built a refinery in this country? We have more Natural Gas in this country than we know what to do with, but why is the price so high? I was just at the International Builders Show last week in Orlando. Was talking with a Mississippi Power Employee. He was saying they are bringing a clean coal power plant on line and the rates are going to sky rocket in order to get their ROI back. Yet we are going to have China drill off Key West (Cuba). How many billions did we just send to Brazil to prop up George Soros company. This country is almost FUBOR!!!!
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Old 02-14-2012 | 12:18 AM
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$5.00 a gallon , damn , there goes my header money . Now we are becoming the speculators . All we really know for sure is the price will go up , time for the 99% to stand up and jack up the ones trying to keep us down .
That's the problem my friend we are the 99% you have the ability to have a luxury like your boat. It's not the Rich holding you down it's the left. Nothing is free and the rich employ the masses. Oh by the way rich means the 49% that pays taxes. The left has built a society of tax free voters ,the 51%, that will never vote for anyone who might take away their fake safety net.
The reason gas prices go up is not speculation. For every winner there is a loser. Only way that works. The reason it has gone up is because there is a lack of demand for it here since the economy is flat. What is available goes elsewhere. The U.S. is a net exporter of gas. That's right it's shipped to Mexico and other places that actually want it and are willing to pay. Which makes it more expensive here. If we could get industry fired up the demand would return and prices would go down. We would also need to start drilling, piping and doing what it takes to get it. The left is busy making this impossible through regulations and just plain horrible policy.
Sorry to rant.
I pray for the next ronald reagan to save this great nation.

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Old 02-14-2012 | 12:44 AM
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here,s what we do know,gas was $1.84 when 0bama took office
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Old 02-14-2012 | 12:45 AM
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^^^ great post man, everyone needs to remember this: Fight Terrorism shoot a democrat!!!
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Old 02-14-2012 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by madhatter42
speculation is the mother of all f$$$ ups

I have been hearing it too, but honestly, it's price gouging...just like it was last time....
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I don't think so either.

My only beef is that the price got raised to $2. Everyone complained about it, but we still survived. Then it cleared $3. Same thing, a bunch of complaining, but again, we survived. Then it hit $4. We all complained once again. Once again, it dropped back down towards the $previous mark, (just as before) and now we are ok with $3. (if you can say that) It seems that each time it clears the next $1 mark, we talk about how it will effect us and such, But say it does hit $5 this summer, guess what? We will be tickled when it drops back down to above $4. Right were they want us in the beginning. And once again, we'll be tickled pink....because it's not $5

2 price hikes forward, 1 price hike back. That 1 back, is enough to keep us content.
Both are exactly true.

Oh well, at least there won't be any long waits at the boat ramps this summer.
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Old 02-14-2012 | 01:49 AM
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It's still all Bush's fault ...
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Old 02-14-2012 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gmhdfan
Thank You. When was the last time we built a refinery in this country? We have more Natural Gas in this country than we know what to do with, but why is the price so high? I was just at the International Builders Show last week in Orlando. Was talking with a Mississippi Power Employee. He was saying they are bringing a clean coal power plant on line and the rates are going to sky rocket in order to get their ROI back. Yet we are going to have China drill off Key West (Cuba). How many billions did we just send to Brazil to prop up George Soros company. This country is almost FUBOR!!!!
I know a few people (hell there may be some on here) that are well connected to the petroleum industry that have told me that there are some real big projects that the industry has had planned that are intended to start in the next few years IF things go the way they are predicting...which is a change in domestic policy to allow for much more domestic drilling and oil production/refineing.... I think that a refinery would be built if they were allowed the permit (thats just me speculating ) that's what I've heard anyway...wether it's true or not I have no Idea!!!!
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Old 02-14-2012 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GTOFFSHORE
That's the problem my friend we are the 99% you have the ability to have a luxury like your boat. It's not the Rich holding you down it's the left. Nothing is free and the rich employ the masses. Oh by the way rich means the 49% that pays taxes. The left has built a society of tax free voters ,the 51%, that will never vote for anyone who might take away their fake safety net.
The reason gas prices go up is not speculation. For every winner there is a loser. Only way that works. The reason it has gone up is because there is a lack of demand for it here since the economy is flat. What is available goes elsewhere. The U.S. is a net exporter of gas. That's right it's shipped to Mexico and other places that actually want it and are willing to pay. Which makes it more expensive here. If we could get industry fired up the demand would return and prices would go down. We would also need to start drilling, piping and doing what it takes to get it. The left is busy making this impossible through regulations and just plain horrible policy.
Sorry to rant.
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Old 02-14-2012 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Rippem
I think the big objective is to condition us over a term
I mean there is nothing to support the 3.50 price either, but we are paying it
why?
we are getting conditioned to think that's acceptable regardless of the real cost

exactamundo...


however by looking at the fact that 9 out of every ten vehicles here in central Texas is a
behemoth SUV or Pickup it seems like the average Joe is willing to put up the azz raping to keep driving his 15mpg battleship..
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Old 02-14-2012 | 06:33 AM
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I think its crazy that this administration promotes policy that drives up the price of oil, then rails against the profits of oil companies. It seems pretty obvious, that the only way they can push their "green energy" is to drive up the cost of conventional energy, or else no one will buy it. Even at current prices oil based energy is still cheaper than any of the alternative sources. If you look at Europe, they buy and use a lot more solar wind etc, because their energy prices are a lot higher than ours. Was just talking with a person from Dow, they built a new solar shingle plant here recently, they intend for almost all the product to be sold in Europe, not cost effective for Americans. I have no beef with alt. energy WHEN it is economically viable, just isnt ready yet. Agree with most of the posts above as well, and I cant believe the "gimme" crowd still votes democrat when high energy prices hurt them the most.
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