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GLH 03-05-2012 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3632686)
Who the phuck is Juco ?

I'll help my fellow Canuck.....


Mr. Juco thinks that his philippics epitomize wholesome family entertainment. Unfortunately for him, he's wrong. What follows is the story of how he can be so rich in the rhetoric of democracy and yet so poor in its implementation. I must ask that his satellites deal with his scary missives on a case-by-case basis. I know they'll never do that so here's an alternate proposal: They should, at the very least, back off and quit trying to put our liberties at risk by a nugatory and intemperate rush to stand in the way of progress. We must change the minds of those who show a clear lack of respect not just for those brave souls who fought and died for what they believed in but also for you, the readers of this letter. Our children depend on that.

For one thing, Mr. Juco is consistently inconsistent. But more importantly, we can all have daydreams about Happy Fuzzy Purple Bunny Land, where everyone is caring, loving, and nice. Not only will those daydreams not come true, but mass anxiety is the equivalent of steroids for Mr. Juco. If we feel helpless, Mr. Juco is energized and ramps up his efforts to stifle dissent. He may have access to weapons of mass destruction. Then again, I consider Mr. Juco to be a weapon of mass destruction himself.

Mr. Juco's stiff-necked coalition has its origins in the Jewish Kabala, Babylonian mystery cults, Templars, Freemasons, Illuminati, and assorted interests dedicated to Satanic worship and absolute power. Need I say more? I don't think so, but this I will say: Many scholars have already concluded that Mr. Juco's ramblings are highly logorrheic. Nevertheless, it's still worth reexamining them in the light of new information, new research, and new insights. Doing so is sure to reveal that Mr. Juco is not a responsible citizen. Responsible citizens bring him to justice. Responsible citizens surely do not create a global workers plantation overseen by transnational corporations who have no more concern for the human rights of those who produce their products or services than Mr. Juco has for his pickthanks.

My argument is that this is explicitly or implicitly expressed or presupposed in most of the material I plan to present. Ridiculous? Not so. A more fundamental problem is that Mr. Juco has no discernible talents. The only things he has decidedly mastered are biological functions. Well, I suppose Mr. Juco is also good at convincing people that lying is morally justifiable as long as it's referred to as "strategic deception", but my point is that it amazes me how successful Mr. Juco has been at defying the law of the land. History will look back on that unfortunate success with profound regret and wonder why the people of our time didn't do more to argue about Mr. Juco's overgeneralizations. Perhaps our answer should be that you might have heard the story that Mr. Juco once agreed to help us unite rich and poor, young and old. No one has located the document in which Mr. Juco said that. No one has identified when or where Mr. Juco said that. That's because he never said it. As you might have suspected, finding the best way to convert retreat into advance is a challenging problem indeed. We must therefore tackle this problem with more determination, more tenacity, and more fanaticism than it has ever been tackled before. Only then will people realize that if I had my druthers, Mr. Juco would never have had the opportunity to persecute the innocent and let the guilty go unpunished. As it stands, Mr. Juco says that the best way to reduce cognitive dissonance and restore homeostasis to one's psyche is to shift our society from a culture of conscience to a culture of consensus. That's his unvarying story, and it's a lie: an extremely careless and merciless lie. Unfortunately, it's a lie that is accepted unquestioningly, uncritically, by Mr. Juco's cronies.

We will have to become much more vigilant to ensure that Mr. Juco doesn't steal our birthrights. He has got to go—and yesterday isn't soon enough. He has so frequently lied about how Satanism brings one closer to nirvana that some weaker-minded people are starting to believe it. We need to explain to such people that Mr. Juco's positions have created a vagarious, yellow-bellied universe devoid of logic and evidence. Only within this universe does it make sense to say that I and others who think Mr. Juco is an irrational grafter are secretly using etheric attachment cords to drain people's karmic energy. Only within this universe does it make sense to utilize legal, above-ground organizing in combination with illegal, underground tactics to push our efforts two steps backward. And, only if we navigate a safe path between the Scylla of Mr. Juco's ill-natured, rude snow jobs and the Charybdis of separatism can we destroy this confused, puerile universe of Mr. Juco's and work beyond the predatory plasticity of Mr. Juco's allocutions.

The essential point, however, is the following: Mr. Juco has somehow managed to get the media to pay rapt attention to his insidious bait-and-switch tactics. I don't know what sort of Jedi mind control he's been using to pull that off, but I do know that I personally am interested in facts, not in paregoric for Mr. Juco's allies. An obvious parallel from a different context is that he fully intends to spit in the face of propriety. But that's not enough, not for him. Mr. Juco will additionally create a climate of intimidation, which is why I maintain that people used to think I was exaggerating whenever I said that under the guise of stimulating debate and illuminating diverse perspectives, his memoranda actually plant strife and chaos. After seeing Mr. Juco infiltrate the media with the express purpose of disseminating venom-spouting information these same people now realize that I wasn't exaggerating at all. In fact, they even realize that with Mr. Juco so forcefully punishing dissent through intimidation, public ridicule, economic exclusion, imprisonment, and most extremely, death, things are starting to come to a head. That's why we must brush away the cobwebs of metagrobolism.

If Mr. Juco gets his way, I might very well be hanged and drawn and quartered and paraded through the streets in small, chopped-up little bits and thrown out into the fields where no clean animal will touch me. He says it is within his legal right to court a goofy minority of what I call rancorous windbags. Whether or not he indeed has such a right, we and Mr. Juco honestly need to call a truce on our arguments over incendiarism. Unfortunately, Mr. Juco will refuse to accept any such truce, as his whole raison d'ętre is to promote incendiarism in all its amoral forms. He is not just garrulous; he's batty, too. There are certainly signs that Mr. Juco is becoming increasingly cranky. That's not something that we learn in school—though it should be. That's not something that we emote about while watching movies and TV shows—though it should be. What it is is something that tells us loudly and clearly that there is no place in this country where we are safe from Mr. Juco's drones, no place where we are not targeted for hatred and attack.

Now the surprising news: I have a problem with Mr. Juco's use of the phrase, "We all know that...". With this phrase, he doesn't need to prove his claim that all it takes to start a rabbit farm is a magician's magic hat; he merely accepts it as fact. To put it another way, there is only one way to stop him from putting the public peace perpetually in danger. We must make out of fools, wise people; out of fanatics, men of sense; out of idlers, workers; out of sick oafs, people who are willing to oppugn Mr. Juco's belligerent undertakings. Then together we can weaken the critical links in his nexus of slaphappy Dadaism. Together we can show the world that ever since Mr. Juco decided to impose theological straightjackets on scriptural interpretation, his consistent, unvarying line has been that his vices are the only true virtues.

In an atmosphere of false rumors and misinformation, if I try really, really hard, I can almost see why Mr. Juco would want to lay all of society open to the predations of organized criminality. Although the destructiveness of his treacheries has been chronicled elsewhere in great and tedious detail it fits too neatly into my thesis to overlook. Hence, I shall chronicle it here as well but only as a quick comment that Mr. Juco's protests are based on two fundamental errors. They assume that coercion in the name of liberty is a valid use of state power and they promote the mistaken idea that he can ignore rules, laws, and protocol without repercussion.

If I am correctly informed, Mr. Juco can't relate to anyone other than lousy purveyors of malice and hatred. In any case, he sometimes puts himself in charge of obstructing things. At other times, one of his shock troops is deputed for the job. In either case, Mr. Juco recently began damaging the self-esteem and physical health of millions of young men and women. Once again, he has made a mockery of his pledge not to be so diversivolent. It's too bad that Mr. Juco lacks the decency to admit that he can't attack my ideas, so he attacks me. It could be worse, I suppose. Mr. Juco could fabricate all sorts of indelicate, ad hoc rules and regulations. To sum it all up, Mr. Juco's gofers should have their foreheads stamped with an "Empty" tattoo.


---------

And from now on you guys can do the legwork... :crazy:
http://www.pakin.org/complaint

Glad to help... :drink:

GLH 03-05-2012 05:06 PM

I'm glad Norty didn't beat me to it...

Catastrophe 03-05-2012 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by GLH (Post 3633948)
I'll help my fellow Canuck.....


Mr. Juco thinks that his philippics epitomize wholesome family entertainment. Unfortunately for him, he's wrong. What follows is the story of how he can be so rich in the rhetoric of democracy and yet so poor in its implementation. I must ask that his satellites deal with his scary missives on a case-by-case basis. I know they'll never do that so here's an alternate proposal: They should, at the very least, back off and quit trying to put our liberties at risk by a nugatory and intemperate rush to stand in the way of progress. We must change the minds of those who show a clear lack of respect not just for those brave souls who fought and died for what they believed in but also for you, the readers of this letter. Our children depend on that.

For one thing, Mr. Juco is consistently inconsistent. But more importantly, we can all have daydreams about Happy Fuzzy Purple Bunny Land, where everyone is caring, loving, and nice. Not only will those daydreams not come true, but mass anxiety is the equivalent of steroids for Mr. Juco. If we feel helpless, Mr. Juco is energized and ramps up his efforts to stifle dissent. He may have access to weapons of mass destruction. Then again, I consider Mr. Juco to be a weapon of mass destruction himself.

Mr. Juco's stiff-necked coalition has its origins in the Jewish Kabala, Babylonian mystery cults, Templars, Freemasons, Illuminati, and assorted interests dedicated to Satanic worship and absolute power. Need I say more? I don't think so, but this I will say: Many scholars have already concluded that Mr. Juco's ramblings are highly logorrheic. Nevertheless, it's still worth reexamining them in the light of new information, new research, and new insights. Doing so is sure to reveal that Mr. Juco is not a responsible citizen. Responsible citizens bring him to justice. Responsible citizens surely do not create a global workers plantation overseen by transnational corporations who have no more concern for the human rights of those who produce their products or services than Mr. Juco has for his pickthanks.

My argument is that this is explicitly or implicitly expressed or presupposed in most of the material I plan to present. Ridiculous? Not so. A more fundamental problem is that Mr. Juco has no discernible talents. The only things he has decidedly mastered are biological functions. Well, I suppose Mr. Juco is also good at convincing people that lying is morally justifiable as long as it's referred to as "strategic deception", but my point is that it amazes me how successful Mr. Juco has been at defying the law of the land. History will look back on that unfortunate success with profound regret and wonder why the people of our time didn't do more to argue about Mr. Juco's overgeneralizations. Perhaps our answer should be that you might have heard the story that Mr. Juco once agreed to help us unite rich and poor, young and old. No one has located the document in which Mr. Juco said that. No one has identified when or where Mr. Juco said that. That's because he never said it. As you might have suspected, finding the best way to convert retreat into advance is a challenging problem indeed. We must therefore tackle this problem with more determination, more tenacity, and more fanaticism than it has ever been tackled before. Only then will people realize that if I had my druthers, Mr. Juco would never have had the opportunity to persecute the innocent and let the guilty go unpunished. As it stands, Mr. Juco says that the best way to reduce cognitive dissonance and restore homeostasis to one's psyche is to shift our society from a culture of conscience to a culture of consensus. That's his unvarying story, and it's a lie: an extremely careless and merciless lie. Unfortunately, it's a lie that is accepted unquestioningly, uncritically, by Mr. Juco's cronies.

We will have to become much more vigilant to ensure that Mr. Juco doesn't steal our birthrights. He has got to go—and yesterday isn't soon enough. He has so frequently lied about how Satanism brings one closer to nirvana that some weaker-minded people are starting to believe it. We need to explain to such people that Mr. Juco's positions have created a vagarious, yellow-bellied universe devoid of logic and evidence. Only within this universe does it make sense to say that I and others who think Mr. Juco is an irrational grafter are secretly using etheric attachment cords to drain people's karmic energy. Only within this universe does it make sense to utilize legal, above-ground organizing in combination with illegal, underground tactics to push our efforts two steps backward. And, only if we navigate a safe path between the Scylla of Mr. Juco's ill-natured, rude snow jobs and the Charybdis of separatism can we destroy this confused, puerile universe of Mr. Juco's and work beyond the predatory plasticity of Mr. Juco's allocutions.

The essential point, however, is the following: Mr. Juco has somehow managed to get the media to pay rapt attention to his insidious bait-and-switch tactics. I don't know what sort of Jedi mind control he's been using to pull that off, but I do know that I personally am interested in facts, not in paregoric for Mr. Juco's allies. An obvious parallel from a different context is that he fully intends to spit in the face of propriety. But that's not enough, not for him. Mr. Juco will additionally create a climate of intimidation, which is why I maintain that people used to think I was exaggerating whenever I said that under the guise of stimulating debate and illuminating diverse perspectives, his memoranda actually plant strife and chaos. After seeing Mr. Juco infiltrate the media with the express purpose of disseminating venom-spouting information these same people now realize that I wasn't exaggerating at all. In fact, they even realize that with Mr. Juco so forcefully punishing dissent through intimidation, public ridicule, economic exclusion, imprisonment, and most extremely, death, things are starting to come to a head. That's why we must brush away the cobwebs of metagrobolism.

If Mr. Juco gets his way, I might very well be hanged and drawn and quartered and paraded through the streets in small, chopped-up little bits and thrown out into the fields where no clean animal will touch me. He says it is within his legal right to court a goofy minority of what I call rancorous windbags. Whether or not he indeed has such a right, we and Mr. Juco honestly need to call a truce on our arguments over incendiarism. Unfortunately, Mr. Juco will refuse to accept any such truce, as his whole raison d'ętre is to promote incendiarism in all its amoral forms. He is not just garrulous; he's batty, too. There are certainly signs that Mr. Juco is becoming increasingly cranky. That's not something that we learn in school—though it should be. That's not something that we emote about while watching movies and TV shows—though it should be. What it is is something that tells us loudly and clearly that there is no place in this country where we are safe from Mr. Juco's drones, no place where we are not targeted for hatred and attack.

Now the surprising news: I have a problem with Mr. Juco's use of the phrase, "We all know that...". With this phrase, he doesn't need to prove his claim that all it takes to start a rabbit farm is a magician's magic hat; he merely accepts it as fact. To put it another way, there is only one way to stop him from putting the public peace perpetually in danger. We must make out of fools, wise people; out of fanatics, men of sense; out of idlers, workers; out of sick oafs, people who are willing to oppugn Mr. Juco's belligerent undertakings. Then together we can weaken the critical links in his nexus of slaphappy Dadaism. Together we can show the world that ever since Mr. Juco decided to impose theological straightjackets on scriptural interpretation, his consistent, unvarying line has been that his vices are the only true virtues.

In an atmosphere of false rumors and misinformation, if I try really, really hard, I can almost see why Mr. Juco would want to lay all of society open to the predations of organized criminality. Although the destructiveness of his treacheries has been chronicled elsewhere in great and tedious detail it fits too neatly into my thesis to overlook. Hence, I shall chronicle it here as well but only as a quick comment that Mr. Juco's protests are based on two fundamental errors. They assume that coercion in the name of liberty is a valid use of state power and they promote the mistaken idea that he can ignore rules, laws, and protocol without repercussion.

If I am correctly informed, Mr. Juco can't relate to anyone other than lousy purveyors of malice and hatred. In any case, he sometimes puts himself in charge of obstructing things. At other times, one of his shock troops is deputed for the job. In either case, Mr. Juco recently began damaging the self-esteem and physical health of millions of young men and women. Once again, he has made a mockery of his pledge not to be so diversivolent. It's too bad that Mr. Juco lacks the decency to admit that he can't attack my ideas, so he attacks me. It could be worse, I suppose. Mr. Juco could fabricate all sorts of indelicate, ad hoc rules and regulations. To sum it all up, Mr. Juco's gofers should have their foreheads stamped with an "Empty" tattoo.


---------

And from now on you guys can do the legwork... :crazy:
http://www.pakin.org/complaint

Glad to help... :drink:

Thanks for the help Bud.

I hope that clears this all up for you guys.:lolhit::lolhit::lolhit::lolhit:

HiPerf2000 03-05-2012 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by GLH (Post 3633950)
I'm glad Norty didn't beat me to it...

lol. i forgot about thay one.

ApachePete 03-05-2012 06:17 PM

Help!
 
How the heck can a post like that be allwed to stand?

How in the world can HiPerf2000 not be banned forever?

PLEASE!

HiPerf2000 03-05-2012 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by ApachePete (Post 3633995)
How the heck can a post like that be allwed to stand?

How in the world can HiPerf2000 not be banned forever?

PLEASE!

then you would have to ban the person who originally photoshopped it, and the other 80+ people who saved and re-posted it over the years. search his name, i bet you find this pic quite easily.

zimm1978 03-05-2012 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by Open72 (Post 3632689)
Good old days ,SBRT , TMP 1800 gas motors , cheap Rolex watches,Big Scotty,
Steve in a garbage can, Troutly and the seven bros gang bang , how big is Nort's head to name a few :cool-smiley-027:

funny cashbar didnt come up after my time here reading all this cool stuff over the years :lolhit: maybe this has something do to with something totally differently in a way...i love forums, its like a free therapist in a way :)

PhantomChaos 03-06-2012 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by Open72 (Post 3632689)
Good old days ..................Troutly and the seven bros gang bang......... :cool-smiley-027:

If you look close, its actually eight bros a slammin, not seven. LOL :cartman::cartman::cartman:

PhantomChaos 03-06-2012 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by GLH (Post 3633950)
I'm glad Norty didn't beat me to it...

Love ya!!! :thankyouthankyou::thankyouthankyou::thankyouthank you:

Griff 03-06-2012 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by ApachePete (Post 3632772)
Anyone know if Officer Troutly is in or out?

And is Big Bubba in or out of Officer Troutly?:poopoo:

In or outta jail????? He only spent 6 months in jail.

thisistank 03-06-2012 04:06 AM

What's wrong speed girl? You need some help regulating some of the nonsense? Kick me a spare key to the castle, I'll put the smack down! :nhl_fight::grinser010:

MikeyFIN 03-06-2012 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Racegirl3 (Post 3633016)

Do any of us have to be here? Nope. Sure dont. We can all walk away at anytime. Heck ... we can even go start our own website... Im here ... or still here.... because Heather is my friend. I love her. I love the sport. I love to boat. I love to be a boat btch. I love working on boats. I love cleaning boats. I love towing boats. I love racing boats. I love helping Andy with safety. I love boating.

Wish people would practice a little more "do unto others" philosophy. Would make our job a lot easier.

Men need definitely girls like Speedy.... ;)
Keeps us on the course and on focus :cartman:

MikeyFIN 03-06-2012 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3633934)
The good old days was Before Sunkin. Think he caused some lingering long term damage.
ed


Now your boosting his "rep" too much IMO....

Catastrophe 03-06-2012 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 3634327)
Men need definitely girls like Speedy.... ;)
Keeps us on the course and on focus :cartman:

I see some of the posts on here think my original comments were directed at the mods.
Hardly.

I consider Speedy a good friend of mine and if you reread my comments I said that she and the mods do a good job on here.

If you go back to other posts of mine you will see that my feelings regarding that have been consistent for some time.

My point was that the Tone of this place hasnt changed since the Good Old Days ( whatever that is and whenever that started and ended ).

I also see Racegirl misread my comment re boat ownership and the right to post on here.

My comment was in defence of the builders and sellers of marine product on OSO. On many many occasions I have seen either a builder or someone else who works in this industry offer a boat or product and get stupid comments directed at it from people on here that I know who have never owned a boat.

I know you dont have to have owned a Lambo to voice an opinion about its price or its shape or whatever.
But , if you havent dreamed of buying a boat and scrimped and saved to get it, if you havent done without other things in life to keep it, if you havent fixed it, washed it, hauled it, shared its use with friends, payed for the gas, bought a truck to pull it, babied it in winter storage and finally....loose money big time when you trade it or sell it...............you arent a boater .......so some of the opinions on here by people that absolutely dont know what they are talking about nauseates me.And bumming rides with others, doesnt undo my point.

I stand by my Vanilla comment as posted.

With regards to why I posted in the first place......if you dont understand why someone is saying something to us here, you go look to see who that person is.......so if you dont know who JUCO is you go look at their other posts. If you do that in this specific instence you will see that JUCO is a techy.

You would have to be a mind reader to know that Speedy posted her TONE comment under someone elses screen name.

AND Speedy has told me to go Phuck myself on more than one occasion, both on here and by email, so I'm not offended.

MikeyFIN 03-06-2012 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3634341)
I see some of the posts on here think my original comments were directed at the mods.
Hardly.

I consider Speedy a good friend of mine and if you reread my comments I said that she and the mods do a good job on here.

I read it an fully understood it.




My point was that the Tone of this place hasnt changed since the Good Old Days ( whatever that is and whenever that started and ended ).
Agreed 100%


My comment was in defence of the builders and sellers of marine product on OSO. On many many occasions I have seen either a builder or someone else who works in this industry offer a boat or product and get stupid comments directed at it from people on here that I know who have never owned a boat.

I know you dont have to have owned a Lambo to voice an opinion about its price or its shape or whatever.
But , if you havent dreamed of buying a boat and scrimped and saved to get it, if you havent done without other things in life to keep it, if you havent fixed it, washed it, hauled it, shared its use with friends, payed for the gas, bought a truck to pull it, babied it in winter storage and finally....loose money big time when you trade it or sell it...............you arent a boater .......so some of the opinions on here by people that absolutely dont know what they are talking about nauseates me.And bumming rides with others, doesnt undo my point.

I stand by my Vanilla comment as posted.
Forgetaboutit ;)

I've never owned a Lambo either... I've wrenched race Lambos and powerboats and raced them among others.

I'd say I'm personally qualified enough in that department.

Thenagain why has OSO seemed to lose some steam ?
Well one thing is.. the old days are coming back (i.e. true endurane racing).
Old and new boats race against each other, especially in Europe! Old records are shattered and in the same old hairytales turn more mundane. Nothing to Brag about anymore especially if you do not have a single offshore trophy to back it up and just own an old boat with racing history. Kudos for people owning such is just what you write about, the spending of stupendous money just for a passion, let's not take away anything from those either but on the other hand all Hail to those who still race these old boats and risk their lives... and with success even. The Good Old Days are here people, we live it once again!!



PS. We need Girls Like Speedy, Dawn, Dee, Reese and Lucy, I'm not sure If I've ever met Speedy but all could grab my (raceboats) wheel If I hold the Stick(s), or be more than glad to have their hand in a team I'm in ;)

MikeyFIN 03-06-2012 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3634341)

AND Speedy has told me to go Phuck myself on more than one occasion, both on here and by email, so I'm not offended.

Hahaa ;)
Consider yourself sunkin special :cartman:

scarab63 03-06-2012 06:51 AM

Now re read the original post in andy rooneys voice!!!:lolhit:
All good points though.

kreed 03-06-2012 07:24 AM

(Quote): Catastrophe;
I know you dont have to have owned a Lambo to voice an opinion about its price or its shape or whatever.
But , if you havent dreamed of buying a boat and scrimped and saved to get it, if you havent done without other things in life to keep it, if you havent fixed it, washed it, hauled it, shared its use with friends, payed for the gas, bought a truck to pull it, babied it in winter storage and finally....loose money big time when you trade it or sell it...............you arent a boater .......so some of the opinions on here by people that absolutely dont know what they are talking about nauseates me. And bumming rides with others, doesnt undo my point.

Great point. This paragraph made my morning.

Ted G 03-06-2012 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3633934)
The good old days was Before Sunkin. Think he caused some lingering long term damage.
ed


Nope, Sunkin and Serious was a product of people feeling like the "Old Days" were gone and wanting to rekindle that. It may have emphasized it or strengthened the feeling but the tenor had already changed. In my mind it came from a few things, but one was the loss of community. While Steve S. grew the site exponentially he was also starting the decline of the personality of the site. For me it was always summed up very easily, at one point there was a very real possibility that you would be face to face with anyone on the site. So people acted accordingly and even though there were fights and banter and razzing, and all that, there was an underlying friendliness about it and some restraint. There were also many acts of true friendship between the more active members that made the place very attractive to newcomers because they could see the decency of most of the people on here (it's still here, but gets covered by all the internet bravado).


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3634364)
Now re read the original post in andy rooneys voice!!!:lolhit:

Ahahahahaha funniest post of the week :lolhit::lolhit:

Interceptor 03-06-2012 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ted G (Post 3634403)
Nope, Sunkin and Serious was a product of people feeling like the "Old Days" were gone and wanting to rekindle that. It may have emphasized it or strengthened the feeling but the tenor had already changed. In my mind it came from a few things, but one was the loss of community. While Steve S. grew the site exponentially he was also starting the decline of the personality of the site. For me it was always summed up very easily, at one point there was a very real possibility that you would be face to face with anyone on the site. So people acted accordingly and even though there were fights and banter and razzing, and all that, there was an underlying friendliness about it and some restraint. There were also many acts of true friendship between the more active members that made the place very attractive to newcomers because they could see the decency of most of the people on here (it's still here, but gets covered by all the internet bravado).

The band of pseudo internet experts/investigators/lawyers etc seems to have increased within OSO since the Sunkin episode and endlessly attempt to state opinion as fact on every thread containing the slightest controversy.
ed

OldSchool 03-06-2012 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ted G (Post 3634403)
For me it was always summed up very easily, at one point there was a very real possibility that you would be face to face with anyone on the site.

You can say that again!!! Maybe it's time for some of us "oldtimers" to bring back OSO parties... like they used to be!!! :D:party-smiley-004:


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3634658)
The band of pseudo internet experts/investigators/lawyers etc seems to have increased within OSO since the Sunkin episode and endlessly attempt to state opinion as fact on every thread containing the slightest controversy.
ed

That's very true. I know that I am definately more sceptical of people when they appear and seem to be "Joe Offshore". The latest one was 45Tripps, but he seems to have slithered back under the rock that he came out from. Controversy was most likely saved on that one. ;)

sean stinson 03-06-2012 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3634726)
You can say that again!!! Maybe it's time for some of us "oldtimers" to bring back OSO parties... like they used to be!!! :D:party-smiley-004:

I remember a few of those parties and even ran into you at a couple there bro!!!!!

We need to do those parties again it would be fun to do those!!!

boatme 03-06-2012 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by sean stinson (Post 3634775)
I remember a few of those parties and even ran into you at a couple there bro!!!!!

We need to do those parties again it would be fun to do those!!!

Yep i remebered those days as well

WildThing47 03-06-2012 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3632686)
i just read the sticky on the top of this page. I read it because a long time member here and a good friend pointed it out to me.

Since we are experiencing the winter duldrumbs and perhaps ib thinks its a little slow around here maybe we could talk about the topic a bit.

I'll make some points and then you guys can all jump in and agree or disagree.

I'll start with who the phuck is juco ?other than obviously not knowing how to use the english language , they have 27 posts on here and after reading the posts i presume they are responsible for the technical portion of how this board works.
They should get that part down right to start with. Of all the boards out there involving boating yak, this place is the slowest performing board i visit.
With 27 posts they are hardly the right person to be putting that sticky up there.

Speedgirl and the volunteer mods on here do a great job in my opinion. I dont think we need to hear from anyone else.

Tone

i've always equated the talk on here to a bunch of like minded guys standing around at a party yakkin about a common interest being boating. Those guys have a common denominator being that they are all " a" personalities. Anyone that wants to throw as much time and effort and a ton of money into this hobby as we all do has to be a little bent in the first place.
To restrain their conversation and how they talk to one another is a huge mistake. They have to be able to post on here the same way they talk everyday. To restrict that in any way makes this a vanilla conversation board and it becomes meaningless.

If you travel around other sites you will see that a lot of the threads are discussing what is happening over on oso.
Ib should read that as a plus.

This place is still the mothership of boating forums and if you want it to stay that way you have to let people talk the way they talk.

If someone in this industry wants to make a product announcement that remains a straight product announcement they should do it in their own builders section.
If they want to do it in the "living room " gd section then let those that are reading it react to it as they wish.

If it gets stupid then speedy will take care of it as she always has, along with the other moderators.

Case in point. There are some folks on here that have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours educating and entertaining this membership with build threads and picture threads that some of you like or dont like.one of the threads is in the top 10 largest on here. If they get out of shape on one thread you hardly need to consider banning them. Report them to speedy and let her deal with it.

Good old days

can someone please tell me what the " good old days " around here is.

Is it the parties and giant bar tabs on steve schubles credit card?

Is it the yak about the boats that can run out on the ocean in 7 foot waves that take 3000 hp to go 75 miles an hour ?
Who the phuck waits for 7 foot waves to go boating ?nobody.

Is it the constant yak about whose boat is fastest for the 15 seconds it takes to measure the ultimate top speed that may have happened once? Who gives a chit ?
Try comparing boats that start and run everytime that you want to use them with your friends and family.

Last point.
I have never seen a sport or hobby that costs as much money to participate in as this one that is surrounded by con artists and poor service and thieves and rip off artists and pretenders.
To read some of the posts on here from people that have never owned a boat is a joke.

Rant over.
To all the hard working good honest guys on here that love this sport and want to yak about it whichever way they feel on any given day............be safe and enjoy.

well said.

+100

Catastrophe 03-07-2012 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3634658)
The band of pseudo internet experts/investigators/lawyers etc seems to have increased within OSO since the Sunkin episode and endlessly attempt to state opinion as fact on every thread containing the slightest controversy.
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Interesting point.
Could you please expand on it so I know exactly what you are referring to.

CigDaze 03-07-2012 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3634658)
The band of pseudo internet experts/investigators/lawyers etc seems to have increased within OSO since the Sunkin episode and endlessly attempt to state opinion as fact on every thread containing the slightest controversy.
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It's called due diligence. This community has always been plagued by rogue scumbag thieves, cheats, scammers and ripoff artists. Be thankful that there are those who would put forth the effort to bring attention to and expose individuals of this nature.

You know the old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

Cheers.

onesickpantera 03-07-2012 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3634658)
The band of pseudo internet experts/investigators/lawyers etc seems to have increased within OSO since the Sunkin episode and endlessly attempt to state opinion as fact on every thread containing the slightest controversy.
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I agree I definitely see a more my opinion is fact" condescending attitude on here, especially in the winter.

But, I see it on other forums too. I usually frequent snowmobile forums in the winter and with the lack of snow this year they are just as bad(or worse) as everyone is pissy about not riding.

I don't post much here as there are guys with much more knowledge. But when I do I always try to talk to people just like I would face to face. Every once in awhile I get a little upset(happened this week) but I still try and keep my "tone" in check.

It's just too easy for many to type things they shouldn't when you just have a "screen name".

Just my point-o-two.


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