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PhantomChaos 03-08-2012 11:00 PM

SuperCharger.........SCAM!!!!!
 
I remember seeing on OSO years ago about a guy selling stuff like this on Ebay. Electric superchargers with 5psi boost? LOL Good grief.......read the Terms and Conditions section. YouTube installation video is "hidden" unless you have the link from the site, and the domain registry is full of crap.

http://www.superchargertuning.com

I found this because it was a Google advertisement at the top of this forum!

delsol 03-09-2012 05:47 AM

Probably advertising on here cause they are really bilge blowers!

jhaugjr 03-09-2012 06:31 AM

Just for kicks I went on there and searched for a kit for my truck. The description looks like Borat wrote it...

Your brand of Dodge Ram can dash on the road at that speed you have admired from your friends. This is and only possible when you have a supercharger from our qualitative and cheap selection of supercharger kit and bolt on superchargers. The superchargers are meant to give your car engine a boost that will make all admire your truck. Why make others look down upon your brand Dodge Ram. It’s still powerful and can make the performance and torque of your car rise to make you be there as fast as possible. We value your money and we ensure that you go back with some penny after every purchase. Just give us $199.99 and have the horse power of you truck increase by 80 hp. It doesn’t matter the weight of load that you carry in your first or second generation truck. It can still produce a supercharging power to enable you be the best timer on the road.

CigDaze 03-09-2012 06:47 AM

LOL Nort. It's pure junk. I can't believe sites like that are still around and people still fall for it.



Originally Posted by jhaugjr (Post 3637077)
...We value your money...

I think that's about the only true statement that they make.

phragle 03-09-2012 08:43 AM

thats what happenss when you google translate chinese to english...







Originally Posted by jhaugjr (Post 3637077)
Just for kicks I went on there and searched for a kit for my truck. The description looks like Borat wrote it...

Your brand of Dodge Ram can dash on the road at that speed you have admired from your friends. This is and only possible when you have a supercharger from our qualitative and cheap selection of supercharger kit and bolt on superchargers. The superchargers are meant to give your car engine a boost that will make all admire your truck. Why make others look down upon your brand Dodge Ram. It’s still powerful and can make the performance and torque of your car rise to make you be there as fast as possible. We value your money and we ensure that you go back with some penny after every purchase. Just give us $199.99 and have the horse power of you truck increase by 80 hp. It doesn’t matter the weight of load that you carry in your first or second generation truck. It can still produce a supercharging power to enable you be the best timer on the road.


X-Rated30 03-09-2012 09:07 AM

What is the problem? I use these and they really work! not to mention the huge improvement in my gas mileage!!!:lolhit:


(It really does make you wonder who would order one. "Lets see... I know nothing about cars, but I have heard of a supercharger. I'll order the cheapest one I can find.")

Raylar 03-09-2012 11:27 AM

Electric Sankeoil sold here !
 
There is a thread in the Tech section - budget section I believe and I think we may have an OSO member pushin this crap on the OSO in a sneaky fashion.
Anybody who thinks they can get help from this crap should let me know as I have some ocean front beach property in Omaha that I will make you a smok'in deal on !!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar:eekdrop:

RT930turbo 03-09-2012 12:12 PM

I asked if they have any kits to make my boat faster :) I'll share any response.

Lofty 03-09-2012 12:12 PM

Good grief, the fan over my toilet has more oomph than that thing! I can'tbelieve people really buy into this crap. More power to him, if you're gullible enough to buy that junk then you deserve to loose your money.

and we wonder how we ended up with bartenders having their $1mil + homes foreclosed on....

RT930turbo 03-09-2012 12:14 PM

Hell maybe if I put one of these stand alone fuel management systems on I can get better MPG's! http://www.superchargertuning.com/im...management.jpg

RT930turbo 03-09-2012 12:15 PM

They got all da mad tyte go fast goodies yo!

Voltage Stabilizer Module / Grounding Cables - This device improves vehicles performance by filtering noise and improving electrica delivery to your vehicles spark plugs and accessories. Gains of up to 10HP have been dyno'd. It also includes a grounding kit which will mount in your engine bay. The grounding wires will improve vehicles alternator to chassis grounding, resulting is less noise and better power delivery to the rest of the vehicle.

http://www.superchargertuning.com/im...tagemodule.jpg

LubeJobs42 03-09-2012 01:23 PM

Do you think they are a scam? I ordered on for my new car.
I spoke to the 2 top guys in the company, Fred Cecil and Big Scotty and I have their personal guarantees!

RT930turbo 03-09-2012 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by LubeJobs42 (Post 3637396)
Do you think they are a scam? I ordered on for my new car.
I spoke to the 2 top guys in the company, Fred Cecil and Big Scotty and I have their personal guarantees!

"You could be having a Lamborghini model car but doesn’t know where to get extra power to make it charge with speed enabling you win the race. With Lamborghini supercharger, you can improve the engine performance of your stereotype Lamborghini racing car to make you win the race. The Lamborghini electric supercharger can give your engine a horse power boost by over 80hp. The torque will definitely shoot by 25% giving you a supercharging power to drive ahead of other. You have been disappointed for so long why not order from our unique selection of supercharger kit and the bolt on supercharger to get rid of the disappointments on the road. Our superchargers are cheap and affordable meant to save your money and fuel. There is no reason to be the last in that race again, you are meant to be the first with this heavy duty engine upgrade. Order today and get the best of the best from that motor race. "

:bong::bong::bong::bong::bong::D

Lofty 03-09-2012 01:29 PM

sheet Gino that's sweet! Just have Allan4 help with the install and you're good to go. When you're done you can have National floor it for you.

fastdonzi 03-09-2012 03:38 PM

Engrish?

RT930turbo 03-09-2012 03:46 PM

Received a response from the "Speed techs"

"Hello,
Thank you for your interest in our products, how ever we do not have anything available for marine applications.

Warehouse"

Oh well, guess I'll have to go get some NOS bazooka tubes....

C_Spray 03-09-2012 09:33 PM

You guys are all wasting your time. All you need is some left-handed counter-rotating deframinator bearings, and you'll find out what REAL peformance is all about. Send me $100 and I'll fill you in on the sekrit...

bob_t 03-09-2012 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by C_Spray (Post 3637694)
You guys are all wasting your time. All you need is some left-handed counter-rotating deframinator bearings, and you'll find out what REAL peformance is all about. Send me $100 and I'll fill you in on the sekrit...

Hey, I tried those on my 525s' and those nice shiny headers started leaking almost instantly. :poopoo: I guess I should have bought the optional grounding cables, too, to straighten out the water flow. Now ... did that void my warranty? :confused:

I want my money back !!

bob_t 03-09-2012 10:34 PM

** update **

Sorry, nevermind the refund .... stupid me .... I had the polarity reversed! :picard1:

J-Bonz 03-09-2012 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by LubeJobs42 (Post 3637396)
Do you think they are a scam? I ordered on for my new car.
I spoke to the 2 top guys in the company, Fred Cecil and Big Scotty and I have their personal guarantees!

Ouch, thats a blast form the past.....................

J-Bonz 03-09-2012 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by RT930turbo (Post 3637359)
Hell maybe if I put one of these stand alone fuel management systems on I can get better MPG's! http://www.superchargertuning.com/im...management.jpg

I could use one of these for my live when I go to the Put in Bay.............. :)

GLH 03-10-2012 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3636975)
I remember seeing on OSO years ago about a guy selling stuff like this on Ebay. Electric superchargers with 5psi boost? LOL Good grief.......read the Terms and Conditions section. YouTube installation video is "hidden" unless you have the link from the site, and the domain registry is full of crap.

http://www.superchargertuning.com

I found this because it was a Google advertisement at the top of this forum!

Thanks for looking out for us buddy, glad I saw this, it was the next call on my list this morning... :drink:

Nortie can you check this product.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Propeller-Hel...nnIfg~~_12.JPG

They said it would make me taller but I think I got scammed and need your expertise.

Thanks in advance. ;)

thirdchildhood 03-10-2012 09:17 AM

Obviously this guy is pushing junk but I have always been intrigued by the possibility of an electric SC. Could it be done with multiple stages of high powered electric blowers? In conjunction with an alternator cut-out switch you could have zero parasitic drag for short periods. It just seems to me it could be done but not with a $10 window fan. We'e be talking about some seriously powered electric motors.

Raylar 03-10-2012 09:33 AM

Thirdchildhood:

Seriously, study the horsepower that is consumed by a screw type or centrifical supercharger at lets say 4-8 psi boost and you will quickly understand why electric superchargers with that type of demand would be highly impracticle.

Now on the other hand if someone could come up with more efficient muffler bearings or alternator flux capacitors, then you would really have something!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

Nice Pair 03-10-2012 10:02 AM

My merc outboards only have 2 cycles instead of 4 ..... would I get twice as much boost ? :p

Randy Nielsen 03-10-2012 11:41 AM

Ocean front property
 

Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 3637326)
There is a thread in the Tech section - budget section I believe and I think we may have an OSO member pushin this crap on the OSO in a sneaky fashion.
Anybody who thinks they can get help from this crap should let me know as I have some ocean front beach property in Omaha that I will make you a smok'in deal on !!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar:eekdrop:

The corps of engineers was trying to keep that a secret so South Dakota wouldnt whine about lost revenue from "their" water

BeakBoater35 03-10-2012 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 3637969)
Thirdchildhood:

Seriously, study the horsepower that is consumed by a screw type or centrifical supercharger at lets say 4-8 psi boost and you will quickly understand why electric superchargers with that type of demand would be highly impracticle.

Now on the other hand if someone could come up with more efficient muffler bearings or alternator flux capacitors, then you would really have something!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

You're absolutely correct...the muffler bearings are the hot setup. I used them when I rebuilt the suprechargers on my boat. BIG difference!

Problem is I only had enough money to use them on the port engine. Now the boat has the nasty habit of constantly pulling to the right.

Coolerman 03-10-2012 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 3637969)
Thirdchildhood:

Seriously, study the horsepower that is consumed by a screw type or centrifical supercharger at lets say 4-8 psi boost and you will quickly understand why electric superchargers with that type of demand would be highly impracticle.

Now on the other hand if someone could come up with more efficient muffler bearings or alternator flux capacitors, then you would really have something!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

Ray, you forgot about the reciprocating dingle-arm which helps reduce sinusoidal deplenaration.

ROTAX454 03-10-2012 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by RT930turbo (Post 3637359)
Hell maybe if I put one of these stand alone fuel management systems on I can get better MPG's! http://www.superchargertuning.com/im...management.jpg

Nice skotch lock wire connectors. Here's to the genius who packaged that thing. :angry-smiley-038:

Matt Trulio 03-10-2012 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 3637969)
Thirdchildhood:

Seriously, study the horsepower that is consumed by a screw type or centrifical supercharger at lets say 4-8 psi boost and you will quickly understand why electric superchargers with that type of demand would be highly impracticle.

Now on the other hand if someone could come up with more efficient muffler bearings or alternator flux capacitors, then you would really have something!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

As always, Ray, you bring knowledge and humor to your posts. Muffler bearings always make me laugh.

Also as always, if it sounds to good to be true, it is.

Interceptor 03-10-2012 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3637950)
Obviously this guy is pushing junk but I have always been intrigued by the possibility of an electric SC. Could it be done with multiple stages of high powered electric blowers? In conjunction with an alternator cut-out switch you could have zero parasitic drag for short periods. It just seems to me it could be done but not with a $10 window fan. We'e be talking about some seriously powered electric motors.

Just duct tape a leaf blower to your inlet !
ed

Interceptor 03-10-2012 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by RT930turbo (Post 3637359)
Hell maybe if I put one of these stand alone fuel management systems on I can get better MPG's! http://www.superchargertuning.com/im...management.jpg

Those work well. Without it my engine compression pushed the spark back down the wire and into the coil. Engine wouldn't start.

befu 03-10-2012 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3637950)
Obviously this guy is pushing junk but I have always been intrigued by the possibility of an electric SC. Could it be done with multiple stages of high powered electric blowers? In conjunction with an alternator cut-out switch you could have zero parasitic drag for short periods. It just seems to me it could be done but not with a $10 window fan. We'e be talking about some seriously powered electric motors.

I use two screw compressors at work to build high volume but low pressure for cleaning the baghouse dust collectors. It can be done and they run great. Not big ones, but would work for the sbc's that i run. The hard part is figuring out how to power a 5HP electric motor.... You are going to need a 5000 watt generator to do that and a 3 phase at that. (Per motor) No room for a 10k genset in my little boat.

If only there was another way.... I KNOW, drive them off the motors belt! Oh wait, that's already done......

It is not the compressor or the motor, it is getting that much electricity to power it all. And those screw type compressors I use aren't any cheaper than buying one set up to mount on an intake manifold.

Steve 1 03-10-2012 01:46 PM

Where is JP8 with the Browns gas generator Mason Jars duct taped under the hatch add ALL those wild claims ,Now couple this with that toy Chinese blower, Good for a dead battery.

Hard to beat a Turbocharger in , the real world with a blue sky and ONE Sun.

thirdchildhood 03-10-2012 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 3638109)
As always, Ray, you bring knowledge and humor to your posts. Muffler bearings always make me laugh.

Also as always, if it sounds to good to be true, it is.

Sounds more like a smart azz bs reply to a serious question, Matt. Oh well, This is the new OSO....

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/04...ger/index.html

Raylar 03-11-2012 10:27 AM

Sorry Thirdchildhood, the first part of my response post was meant to be informative and serious. If you realize for example that a supercharger on a lets take a 500 cubic inch engine with a lets say 3.0 liter screw type supercharger like a Mercury Racing 600sci. At about 7-9 lbs of boost the supercharger itself needs about 75HP just to turn it at that rpm to make that much boost. Now Imagine the size of the electric motor on a 12 volt boat electrical system it would take to drive a compressor that could do the same thing versus driving it of the crankshaft with a pulley.
This is what i was trying to get across with the first part of that post and this is why with todays technology you not gonna see electric superchargers on marine performance engines under hatches with their small 12 volt electric systems.

The second part of the post was pure whimsey making fun of the thought that simple 12 volt electric air fans or compressors are going to produce effective boost on marine performance engines. If you believe they can do it simply, then you should sign up for the Omaha beach front property.

Guess I shoulda seperated the reply into two posts so not to seem as though I was trying to be a smartass with what was an intelligent question.

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

tommymonza 03-11-2012 10:47 AM

How about a giant air tank in the trunk or perhaps on the roof or pulled behind on a trailer with a huge on demand air compressor to refill the tank at the stoplights.

Matt Trulio 03-11-2012 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 3638602)
Sorry Thirdchildhood, the first part of my response post was meant to be informative and serious. If you realize for example that a supercharger on a lets take a 500 cubic inch engine with a lets say 3.0 liter screw type supercharger like a Mercury Racing 600sci. At about 7-9 lbs of boost the supercharger itself needs about 75HP just to turn it at that rpm to make that much boost. Now Imagine the size of the electric motor on a 12 volt boat electrical system it would take to drive a compressor that could do the same thing versus driving it of the crankshaft with a pulley.
This is what i was trying to get across with the first part of that post and this is why with todays technology you not gonna see electric superchargers on marine performance engines under hatches with their small 12 volt electric systems.

The second part of the post was pure whimsey making fun of the thought that simple 12 volt electric air fans or compressors are going to produce effective boost on marine performance engines. If you believe they can do it simply, then you should sign up for the Omaha beach front property.

Guess I shoulda seperated the reply into two posts so not to seem as though I was trying to be a smartass with what was an intelligent question.

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

I thought you answered the question, though in less detail than here, and then made a humorous reference, which I found funny. That's all.

thirdchildhood 03-11-2012 11:59 AM

No problem. Let's just drop it. My link proves that it can be done by rewinding a starter motor and using it to spin a roots SC. There are inherent problems though; Mainly current draw, also now limited to lower displacement engines and a reverse boost pressure curve. It's long been an interesting concept to me though. And I'm not talking about regular fans. Anyway, like I said, let's drop it.

Flamingo 42 03-11-2012 07:29 PM

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