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mpally 03-28-2012 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3650828)
I'd reply back and tell them you'll pack up and move out of state before you give them any documentation.

I'm not sure what this will accomplish. If you owe tax from prior years, then it's due regardless if you move out of state now.

mpally 03-28-2012 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by Wally (Post 3650839)
And any watercraft would be taxed when they get registered...so its the states problem...

This is only correct if the boat is purchased from a dealer. If it's purchased from a private party, use tax is due within 30 days of purchase. Do a google earch for IL RUT-75.

PhantomChaos 03-28-2012 11:06 PM

We're in CA and pay sales tax on a purchase, and property tax every year to the county where the the boat resides on Jan 1 each year.

mike tkach 03-28-2012 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by mpally (Post 3651387)
This is only correct if the boat is purchased from a dealer. If it's purchased from a private party, use tax is due within 30 days of purchase. Do a google earch for IL RUT-75.

you are correct,and i sent them a check and a copy of a hand written receipt signed by myself& the seller,i will not pay the tax a second time,they lost my first check,so i sent them a second one,wich was cashed,what a bunch of facked up people,i hate the state of illinois.:cartman:

soldier4402 03-29-2012 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 3651189)
Sounds like the kinda BS they do in Communist wealth staes like Virginia!!! When I lived there you had to pay a yearly "tax" on your cars, trucks, boats etc if I remember right!!

when i was in the army I bought a truck there and it was tagged in Va for about six months. Those bastards tried sending me taxes for 3-4 years even though the thing was registered in NY. They even sent me statements after the truck was gone until I called and told them not to send me crap I dont live in Va or own the truck. They tried givng me some speech on something, I told them thats fine do what you want I will never own anything or live in Va again so good luck with whatever you try and do.

riverboater 03-29-2012 07:01 AM

That is way 90,000 people moved out of Illinois last year

Knot 4 Me 03-29-2012 07:26 AM

My buddy finally got some info on why he was audited. The state is saying that what they have determined to be the fair market value of the 3 boats he has bought since 2006 to be greater than the purchase price of the boats and they want to collect 6.25% tax on that difference. Not sure how the state is determining what the boat's fair market value was at the time of purchase. Obviously it was not reflective of the soft market over the last few years.

CrownHawg 03-29-2012 07:38 AM

Wow! Sure glad I live here in the backwoods state of Arkansas! I see now where Barry got his idea of tax the hell out of those who work for a living to pay for those bastards who don't want to work! Good luck guys!

soldier4402 03-29-2012 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 3651511)
My buddy finally got some info on why he was audited. The state is saying that what they have determined to be the fair market value of the 3 boats he has bought since 2006 to be greater than the purchase price of the boats and they want to collect 6.25% tax on that difference. Not sure how the state is determining what the boat's fair market value was at the time of purchase. Obviously it was not reflective of the soft market over the last few years.

Chances are they compared it to 3 other boats sold in the state that year. Like I said earlier your buddy played the game of saying he paid 500 bucks for something that was worth 10k.

You arent going to beat the state. Government has hired more bean counters than ever. The days of scamming the system are over. Although I do think that its BS to have to keep paying salest tax on an item that is used 2-3-4 times overs. Somebody brilliant like earlier will say just most, well thats economical. And you can fight it, but it will cost more to fight it than to just pay it.

And whoever said 90k people left because of this, come on now you serious.

Wasted Income 03-29-2012 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by rv (Post 3651250)
My guess is IL auditor does not believe the price of the boat he submitted in the paperwork. If the figure is below what they think is the value at time of purchase they audit and want documents showing real value. They have gotten a lot more aggressive chasing tax dollars. If they think you didn't pay enough for the boat and taxes the ball is in you court to prove them wrong. You can take a hard nose approach like someone mentioned but I know they will not go away.

If you think you can stall them the surprise will be on you, if the decision is determined you didn't pay enough tax you pay interest from date of purchase. Stalling only benefits them - more tax/interest.

Rick

Sounds like you may be an auditor?


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3651332)
UPDATE,got mine in the mail today,they are auditing me on a boat i bought from private owner in illinois,i sent them a check for the taxes,now they want proof of payment for that boat and any other boat i have bought since 2006.i called the number on the letter i recieved and i got a voicemail,so i left a message that i have paid the taxes on all boats i have bought and if they want they can check their own records,and to call me if they had any questions.mu guess is they will never call me back but they will waste more time&money asking for money i do not owe.damm i hate the state of illinois.


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 3651511)
My buddy finally got some info on why he was audited. The state is saying that what they have determined to be the fair market value of the 3 boats he has bought since 2006 to be greater than the purchase price of the boats and they want to collect 6.25% tax on that difference. Not sure how the state is determining what the boat's fair market value was at the time of purchase. Obviously it was not reflective of the soft market over the last few years.

Same here a couple months ago. Got a letter saying they needed proof of paid sales tax.....I was like WTF?

Sent them a copy of the CASHED CHECK that I provided to the state for my sales tax.

Got another letter about 2 weeks later saying thanks, but that wasn't good enough...they wanted a bill of sale from the private seller, along with something showing how I paid for the boat...savings withdrawl, cancelled check to the sellers, loan documents, money order receipt, etc.

I guess they didn't believe that I bought my boat for the deal I got it for.


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3651537)
Like I said earlier your buddy played the game of saying he paid 500 bucks for something that was worth 10k. .

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Pretty ballsy to accuse Knot's buddy of fraud...
My transaction was 100% legit, and I was still audited. I got a steal on my boat, and they apparently didn't believe me until I furnished them the proof they wanted. They've since sent me a letter saying that my audit file has been closed since I provided them with the proof they needed.


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