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H20 Toie 04-09-2012 07:21 PM

Is a go fast an advantage?
 
The last couple years i have taken the Formula 400SS on the local poker runs, This year i have a new Cig so i am taking it.


In the past when we head out to Havasu ( myself and wife ) we have usually ended up with a crew of about 10, Now everyone has been great and we have had an amazing time, well Desert Storm is coming up and already have gotten the calls. Hey Dan, hows it going, hey think i can catch a ride,
What? oh really no room :( ok well cool have a great time.

But for me i will have way more fun running the Cig than the Formula but will miss all the people we have had going with us.

Guess ill have to buy my own gas and beer this year :)

US1 Fountain 04-09-2012 07:39 PM

We have more fun on our cruiser than the Fountain when on our normal every weekend water. All our friends pile in, have the dance floor, bathroom, running water and tons of room. On the rare occasions we travel and take the Fountain, then it's just usually 4 of us. A different type of fun, but always a great time none the less.

fastoys 04-09-2012 07:40 PM

Have them get a hotel and meet you there! I have had 11 on my cig just to run to a sandbar party but 6 is max for a poker run.

roughwater 04-09-2012 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by h20 toie (Post 3659691)
The last couple years i have taken the Formula 400SS on the local poker runs, This year i have a new Cig so i am taking it.


In the past when we head out to Havasu ( myself and wife ) we have usually ended up with a crew of about 10, Now everyone has been great and we have had an amazing time, well Desert Storm is coming up and already have gotten the calls. Hey Dan, hows it going, hey think i can catch a ride,
What? oh really no room :( ok well cool have a great time.

But for me i will have way more fun running the Cig than the Formula but will miss all the people we have had going with us.

Guess ill have to buy my own gas and beer this year :)

Your friends buy you gas and beer???:eekdrop:

87MagnumII 04-09-2012 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by roughwater (Post 3659720)
Your friends buy you gas and beer???:eekdrop:

No kidding, send them my way if you don't have room:lolhit:

roughwater 04-09-2012 08:53 PM

Somewhere i seen a cartoon in a boat mag of a boat that had a atm machine on it and the capt/operator had his hand out. The passengers had a very surprised look on their face...lmao...

Cash Bar 04-09-2012 09:37 PM

When I was first shopping in 2002 for a new Go-Fast, my GF asked "Why not get a cruiser so we can take a group" ?? I looked at her and said, you just answered the question.

My idea of boating was always two couples, or her, two of her friends, and me.

PARADISE ISLAND 04-09-2012 10:32 PM

My friends head for the bathroom when the bill comes!:evilb:Go fast more places to see in a day!

the deep 04-09-2012 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 3659864)
When I was first shopping in 2002 for a new Go-Fast, my GF asked "Why not get a cruiser so we can take a group" ?? I looked at her and said, you just answered the question.

My idea of boating was always two couples, or her, two of her friends, and me.

Over the years i've been asked many times , how many people will that boat haul , the answer always remains the same , TWO . Just could not believe the people that tried to invite themselves along . Occasionally i will give an invite but for the most part we like our privacy . Yea i'm a pr!ck , but i'm a nice pr!ck ....:daz:

wrinkleface 04-10-2012 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 3659911)
Yea i'm a pr!ck , but i'm a nice pr!ck ....:daz:

isn't that an oxymoron??????:evilb:

bulletbob 04-10-2012 06:14 AM

Boating to me is about quality not quantity. One mabye two friends and me. If I wanted a dance floor, kitchen, lounge etc. I would go to a nite club.

frickstyle 04-10-2012 08:10 AM

I stopped taking groups out. 4 or 5 max now, alot more relaxing and easier to manage.

"Are you going up to the islands this weekend?" - potential guest
"Yep, I'll meet you there!" - me

machloosy 04-10-2012 08:15 AM

I don't have your guys size boats... But I love having people on board. They pitch in a few $$ for fuel and stock the cooler. 6-7 people is fun!

Bromaguire 04-10-2012 08:45 AM

I Used to keep my passenger amount to 3-4 on my 24'. My 41 Avanti is comfortable with about 7-8 there's lots room in the cockpit to move around. I haven't had it on a poker run yet but I'd stick with around 6 people for safety. I agree though it's nice when friends pitch in for beer, fuel, etc.

Bromaguire 04-10-2012 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 3660047)
I stopped taking groups out. 4 or 5 max now, alot more relaxing and easier to manage.

"Are you going up to the islands this weekend?" - potential guest
"Yep, I'll meet you there!" - me

How often do you run from cleveland to the islands? How long does it usually take you? I'm want to head up there this summer with my Avanti but I've never done the trip by boat.

Captain YARRR 04-10-2012 08:54 AM

My patience for big groups has dropped on my boat, nobody pitches for gas, I am lucky if they pick up a towel when we pull out.

If I am spending a few hundred a fill up and nobody is pitching, I better like you or you aren't going. Not paying extra in fuel to haul their ass around.

frickstyle 04-10-2012 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Bromaguire (Post 3660091)
How often do you run from cleveland to the islands? How long does it usually take you? I'm want to head up there this summer with my Avanti but I've never done the trip by boat.

Actually I'm docked right now at Venetian in a SeaRay, which is in Sandusky. Working on the Gun to be wet end of Summer, maybe. So, it's a pretty short ride for me in a slow cruiser. 15-20 min to Kelly's and about 40 min to Put in Bay. I would think it would take you a better part of an hour+ to get up there running pretty good, 60mph??? The other guys can correct me on this. I've never run from Cleveland to PIB, nor do I want to on a regular basis, that's why I dock up in Sandusky. It's a great location with a lot of options.

I intend to make 1 run a year from Sandusky to Cleveland with the Gun just to do it. I wouldn't mind running up to Detroit/Lake St Clair with a faster boat.

tjred 04-10-2012 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by h20 toie (Post 3659691)
The last couple years i have taken the Formula 400SS on the local poker runs, This year i have a new Cig so i am taking it.


In the past when we head out to Havasu ( myself and wife ) we have usually ended up with a crew of about 10, Now everyone has been great and we have had an amazing time, well Desert Storm is coming up and already have gotten the calls. Hey Dan, hows it going, hey think i can catch a ride,
What? oh really no room :( ok well cool have a great time.

But for me i will have way more fun running the Cig than the Formula but will miss all the people we have had going with us.

Guess ill have to buy my own gas and beer this year :)

Have a CABANA BOAT under the bridge for you friends. That way you can all hang out and when you want to go for a run you can ditch them.

anewway 04-10-2012 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 3660096)
My patience for big groups has dropped on my boat, nobody pitches for gas, I am lucky if they pick up a towel when we pull out.

If I am spending a few hundred a fill up and nobody is pitching, I better like you or you aren't going. Not paying extra in fuel to haul their ass around.

Time to trade in your friends for some new ones. :)

Years ago I was putting my boat into its dry storage, and the guy next to me had his whole crew helping unload and wipe down the boat. I was like damn, my friends piled out at the boat ramp and took off for home.

I have a different group now, and we all pitch in and clean and unload each other's boats. It makes for a MUCH better time. :)

H20 Toie 04-10-2012 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by anewway (Post 3660539)
Time to trade in your friends for some new ones. :)

:)

Amen to that.

On one of my trips to Havasu we got home late and just parked the boat beside the house, when i got home from work the next day there where my friends washing the boat. Now that was a great surprise.

It's nice when people don't take getting a ride for granted.

twinskrewd 04-10-2012 06:33 PM

I won't take my friends' money for gas. I don't think any of them even understand how much it costs to run the boat, because the few times one of them has offered it's usually a 20 in their hands. Really, I don't want my guests to think about that when I take them out. But they always help me unload and then wash the boat after we get back to the dock. Oh, and they usually bring beer. :D

the deep 04-10-2012 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by h20 toie (Post 3660543)
Amen to that.

On one of my trips to Havasu we got home late and just parked the boat beside the house, when i got home from work the next day there where my friends washing the boat. Now that was a great surprise.

It's nice when people don't take getting a ride for granted.

:asskiss::asskiss::asskiss::asskiss::asskiss::assk iss::ernaehrung004::ernaehrung004:....:boat:....Da ts how you do it !!!! No one likes being taken advantage of !!!!:angry-smiley-038:

US1 Fountain 04-10-2012 06:42 PM

You guys can hang with me. The more the merrier, and I will not accept your $$ for gas. Just the way we roll. :D

the deep 04-10-2012 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=US1 Fountain;3660569]You guys can hang with me. The more the merrier, and I will not accept your $$ for gas. Just the way we roll. :D[/QUOTE.......... What about the libations and do you supply the booty too pimpdaddy ????:evilb::lolhit::lolhit:...

mach1magnum 04-10-2012 06:58 PM

for us it was econmics big cruiser big bills between dockage and worrying about it at the dock to winter storage to the crazy gas bills the cruiser never really gave me the need for speed fulfillment with my current boat it fits in the garage no worrys i tinker with it at home and on our days out we bring a friend or two but usually raft up with others we know still lots of fun

nova26 04-10-2012 07:32 PM

The way I'm seeing it is that a guy needs both. Powerboat all day then go back to the Lake house (which I don't have yet) let the lady's get all cleaned up then head out in a big ass Searay for dinner and dancing. :party-smiley-020:

US1 Fountain 04-10-2012 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by nova26 (Post 3660626)
The way I'm seeing it is that a guy needs both. Powerboat all day then go back to the Lake house (which I don't have yet) let the lady's get all cleaned up then head out in a big ass Searay for dinner and dancing. :party-smiley-020:

Yep. Have the cruiser in a covered slip with a lift to keep it clean, for every weekend use....and have the Fountain at home if we decided to venture to outta state. Problem is, as we have discovered, the convenience of just hoping in the economy car and driving to the lake where the cruiser is waiting for us, has become so easy, the Fountain never gets used anymore sine we bought the cruiser. 2 yrs it never left garage,last yr we took it out 2 weekends to Cumberland. The hassle of winterizing, registration expense, maintenance stuff like impellers, oil/filter changes each time, just makes it not worth the trouble. Don't see it leaving the garage this yr.

RedDog382 04-11-2012 10:50 AM

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H2O toie,

Your TG is one or my favorites, but your 400 SS is the bomb anytime:

jmeng 04-11-2012 11:08 AM

Guess I'm the odd man out. I love having a few more people in the boat with me and my wife, more fun that way. Thats one of the things I love about my parents 'toon. Load it down with 14 people and go party. Depending on what we have planned I usually cap it at 6 - 7 people total in the Baja.

I also never accept gas money except for the big poker runs where we agree to split it before hand. I'm going to ride anyway and I invited them. It's not like its costing me anything extra to bring them. Seems pretty ****ty to ask them to pay. Kind of like inviting someone over for dinner and making them bring their own food. I do expect them to help clean up at the end of the day and usually don't turn down a beer if they're buying. :D

seafordguy 04-11-2012 12:01 PM

Big Group - Small Group - I really don't care as long as it is the right group of friends. If they aren't starting fights or deliberately damaging the boat I'm game for the company (as long as they don't want to go out for 30 minutes and then come back in!!).

As for the gas money - I wouldn't accept it if they offered it.

H20 Toie 04-11-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDog382 (Post 3661044)
H2O toie,

Your TG is one or my favorites, but your 400 SS is the bomb anytime:

Thanks
i think im pretty well covered as far as boating, kind of have the best of both worlds :)

JimB-MN 04-11-2012 12:19 PM

A friend of mine has the 70's bumper sticker quote painted on his dash. "Gas, Grass or Ass, Nobody Rides for Free!". I laugh every time I see it.

Plowtownmissile 04-11-2012 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by twinskrewd (Post 3660560)
I won't take my friends' money for gas. I don't think any of them even understand how much it costs to run the boat, because the few times one of them has offered it's usually a 20 in their hands. Really, I don't want my guests to think about that when I take them out. But they always help me unload and then wash the boat after we get back to the dock. Oh, and they usually bring beer. :D


Originally Posted by jmeng (Post 3661063)
Guess I'm the odd man out. I love having a few more people in the boat with me and my wife, more fun that way. Thats one of the things I love about my parents 'toon. Load it down with 14 people and go party. Depending on what we have planned I usually cap it at 6 - 7 people total in the Baja.

I also never accept gas money except for the big poker runs where we agree to split it before hand. I'm going to ride anyway and I invited them. It's not like its costing me anything extra to bring them. Seems pretty ****ty to ask them to pay. Kind of like inviting someone over for dinner and making them bring their own food. I do expect them to help clean up at the end of the day and usually don't turn down a beer if they're buying. :D


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 3661110)
Big Group - Small Group - I really don't care as long as it is the right group of friends. If they aren't starting fights or deliberately damaging the boat I'm game for the company (as long as they don't want to go out for 30 minutes and then come back in!!).

As for the gas money - I wouldn't accept it if they offered it.

I'm in this group. I won't take any gas money from my friends but they do know I expect them to help load, unload, set fenders, docklines, wipe down, etc. We went from a little Outlaw to a 29' Islander for a good reason... We and most all our friends are in their early 30's, married a few years, and a child around 2yrs old. Due to cockpit size, we could only invite one other couple and things come up with young couples. After getting cancelled on with too little notice to invite other friends a few times, we went to a boat that will hold enough couples that if one backs out we still have others that are going. BTW, I only invite close friends that I know will take care of my boat as much as I do.

H20 Toie 04-11-2012 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 3661110)
Big Group - Small Group - I really don't care as long as it is the right group of friends. If they aren't starting fights or deliberately damaging the boat I'm game for the company (as long as they don't want to go out for 30 minutes and then come back in!!).

As for the gas money - I wouldn't accept it if they offered it.

So does that mean when you go for a run in someone else's boat you don't offer to pay for some of the gas?


I have never asked anyone for money, maybe it's just the friends i have but quite often when we get gas someone will pitch in or pay for my lunch, things like that.
but on the flip side when i have ridden in someones boat i do the same.
Now not everyone has the $$$ ( which is fine) but they seem to be the ones that help clean. Again i have never asked them to help but most ( not all ) want to pitch in someway.


Another thing i'm not talking about going on a harbor cruise or putting around the lake but on runs where you are going thru 100's of gallons of fuel.

TexomaPowerboater 04-11-2012 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by h20 toie (Post 3659691)
Is a go fast an advantage?

Only if your trying to get laid.

Plowtownmissile 04-11-2012 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by h20 toie (Post 3661137)
Another thing i'm not talking about going on a harbor cruise or putting around the lake but on runs where you are going thru 100's of gallons of fuel.

Captain's Table poker run last fall we invited a couple that we're great friends with. No fuel money (boat or truck), we paid for the hotel, and I even bought their dinner one nite. They helped with the boat and we all had a blast. Worth every cent to us.

RedDog382 04-11-2012 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3661138)
Only if your trying to get laid.

No ... I bet the 400 SS works pretty damned well for that too!

H20 Toie 04-11-2012 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by RedDog382 (Post 3661178)
No ... I bet the 400 SS works pretty damned well for that too!

Ya think :)

machloosy 04-11-2012 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by h20 toie (Post 3661137)
So does that mean when you go for a run in someone else's boat you don't offer to pay for some of the gas?


I have never asked anyone for money, maybe it's just the friends i have but quite often when we get gas someone will pitch in or pay for my lunch, things like that.
but on the flip side when i have ridden in someones boat i do the same.
Now not everyone has the $$$ ( which is fine) but they seem to be the ones that help clean. Again i have never asked them to help but most ( not all ) want to pitch in someway.


Another thing i'm not talking about going on a harbor cruise or putting around the lake but on runs where you are going thru 100's of gallons of fuel.

I think this is right on and where I'm at. I've never asked friends for gas, but I won't turn down a meal or free beer :lolhit:
The only time there is money involved is on a run and even that is when they offer. The guys stick around to help load/clean etc. Girls don't unless they are crashing the night :evilb:

BajaFresh 04-11-2012 05:29 PM

I like to have at least one other couple come along especially if we are doing a solo boat ocean run. Anymore an it gets too crowded.

Dan, I think your Formula would be a blast at DS if you want a constant party.

On the other hand, if you have people with you, you're kind of stuck with them the whole time. It would be hard to have to tell someone they have to stay on the dock because you want to go by yourself. Plus, the Cig kind of fits in better at that kind of event.

This year I'm going to be the one bumming rides so the shoe is on the other foot! :eek: :D

But, at least I will be an experienced boat biatch so hopefully I'll be some help to whoever is driving and will be buying food and drink :ernaehrung004:


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