Thats what I was gonna say LOL

Waveform beat me to it also...

disagree. most people posting here won't be posting what they own and have pics of...these less than optimal boats for the most part at least look good in the yard. google the model you are interested, or most disinterested, in and click images. they will all be there.

Actually that's not a bad boat at all! A heavy b*tch but other than that they are a well built boat. The warranty backed by Baha Cruisers is unreal.

Now thats funny right there.:lolhit:

I blew a drive off the boat right infront of the old OMC plant in Peterborough with two OMC engineers in the boat. Cracked the throttle to about 3/4's from 40mph and pushed the prop shaft out the side of the lower unit. It had POINT TWO of an hour on it. That was number 9 I think.

Not the ones I have seen...... Just recently saw one that had so much stringer rot the motor litterly fell into the bilge damn near sunk as it ripped the bellows.... From what I could tell they didn't spend much time caping the stringers.... Plenty of exposed wood there....... The rest of the boat looked very "cheap" as well. Maybe The ones I have seen were exceptions....... Maybe my expectations are set too high....... I have never owned one or had any seat time in one, so just commenting from what I saw.

thought the baha built machs had no wood?

My brother Philip and I had a Sidewinder 18 jet boat with a 455 olds/Berkley, the model was called a "Super Sidewinder" I think. Lots of metal flake, no quality. There were 2 little stringers that the motor was bolted to, the were not much longer than the motor, the boat flexed and felt like a rubber raft without enough air in it. We sold that boat and bought a Sutphin, guy who bought it from us sank It in the Hudson river when the bottom broke out. Gas tank was up in the bow under the deck just glued down with some resin, talk about bow steer with a full tank of gas.

I had a guy refer to my boat as a bayliner one time, pissed me off but he doesn't no **** about boats so I let it slide

several companies built Sidewinders over the years. I had a 79 16' low pro with a 175 merc Black Max on a bracket. Beat the absolute chit out of it for years. Tough as nails. Friend had n 83 Super and it was a POS.

I'll go +1 on the Switzer. Riding on the one my friend owned, I could feel every ripple in the water through the floor. That was when I wasn't scared to death by the chine-walk. I remember one day when my PP 185 XLT and his Switzer were rafted up next to each other when some A-hole came flying by and hit us with a 2 foot boat wake. It tore the bow cleats right out of his deck. No damage to mine.
I'll also throw Chaparral's name in the hat. My friend had a 20 footer, and we broke everything on that one. Granted we ran it hard. Never a good day when you pull the boat out of the water and there is a stringer poking out of the side of the hull.

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im going to agree with low psi on the mach 1 boats and some of the older baja's..the last mach one i worked on had the same issues with the stringers,,their was no wood,just a hollow fiberglass stringer that was crushed so bad it threw the coupler through the bell housing in pieces.as for the baja it was a little better built but still had a ton of wet and roted wood,i had to replace the transon and all the stringers and bulk heads..the newer bajas are built a little better then the older ones..

It does have wood, but they us Green XL, the stringers are guaranteed for LIFE. Additionally, the warranty transfers with the boat.

Just be clear, you named two separate builders, Baja and BAHA. You are referring to Baja a few times and want to make sure you're talking about the correct manufacturer. BAHA CRUISERS is the manufacturer that makes the Mach 1.

A sidewinder jet in the Hudson? yep its going to fail little boat half stringers big heavy motor lol

Now for the Profile,I am rebuilding a race version of the 308 and I can tell everyone for a fact this is a POS the core was not laminated corect nor was the deck put on straight but the bottom looks good and should run fast for a delta pad with a notch transom.

Taylor Jet.
I replaced the 460 Ford for a customer and during the installation I noticed the fuel tank mount bolts appeared to come through the bottom and had no apparent bolt pads etc. I looked under neath the hull and sure enough it had four flat head bolts tun through the bottom into the angle pc's welded to the tank!!! We thought maybe it was customer done until the marina across the street had an identical boat in the their lot. I checked and it was identical.

+100 ON THE profile. i HAVE A 26 p.o.s. iTS BUILT SO BAD I WONT EVEN SELL IT EXCEPT FOR SCRAP.

I thought the same thing about the fuel tank mounts on my Taylor. Seemed crazy to me but it's actually pretty common. My Taylor, Condor and Southwind Jets are all like that.

Hey now!! :lolhit:

[QUOTE=hotjava66;3663482] Was a 26 maybe, and they offered a couple other sizes, looked a lot like a liberator. Got on the thing and started grabbing hold of winshield, gunnels, etc and everything flexed, I mean visible movement including the hullsides. Supposed to be "high performance offshore boat, very fast" LOL. I want to say Mirage but not really sure, been too many years.[/QUOTE

Couldnt be a Mirage. Ive owned 2 of them and have numerous friends with them and they are as solid as they come. Lifetime warranty on the hull. Everything thru bolted and stainless.

I think it's important to note that every single manufacturer has an occasional problem. Even the best have issues. What I'm looking for here are boats that were marketed as "high performance" and were just flat out junk - every single one of them. And if you were silly enough to push one hard, it fell apart around you.

I gots ta know.......

Concords ???

Awesome thread. Lots of laughs.

Anything offered with a 454/Alpha or a King Cobra.

Eagle....

Interesting.
 

Here's a story that you'll appreciate. The one I put the motor in was a rat. The pump was thrashed, I don't think it busted much more than 40 w/the new 340 HP Ford.
We did get the owner to let us replace all belts and hoses while the motor was out. We were by a local lake so we took it out to check for leaks etc. Lake had several water side bars so we of course had to stop at them to be sure it would hot start OK ;)
Anyhow, the lake had a mile long no wake zone in the middle that we had to go through. I left the rear seat and bulkheads out so I could watch the motor. I'm driving and owner of dealership is shot gun. I look back to check motor and notice 3 or 4" of water under it. Owner thought we'd taken water over sides but I knew different so it was not a good sight.
Couple mins later I check again and it's now deep enough that the harmonic balancer has a rooster tail shooting straight in the air! Lake was shallow but we were still several mls from the ramp and knew it'd be expensive to get it up and back.
We made an executive decision and I put my foot up it's ass and headed towards the beach closest to us. Now water is coming FAST! :lolhit:
So we blow through the rest of the no wake zone, head for the crowded beach :helmet: w/the owner standing up and screaming at the people on the beach to get out of the way! The boat is now heavy enough that even @ WFO we're down to probably 20 MPH's.
The people scattered right before I drove the thing up on the beach! It had so much water in it that it blew the 6" X 9" speakers out of the seat base and they and the empties bounced off the windshield just missing our heads!
Soon as it stopped moving I jumped out and cleaned up the evidence just before the man gets there :thankyouthankyou:
He assumed we were just a couple of drunks (that lake is known for them) and was not happy when he stomped up to our 20' jet boat on his beach.
I quickly explained what happened, pointed out the through hull fuel tank bolts as the likely culprit and his reply was "get that POS off my beach and don't you ever bring it back to my lake!"

Being a jet guy you of course know that it was the two cooling water supply hoses from the jet pump to the motor that I did not know were hidden under the pump.
So the faster we went (WFO the whole way), the faster the boat filled w/water.

And now back to regularly scheduled programming.

Oh yeah, 1 more for the Switzers. I only looked at one close but is was scary and exactly what you guys have reported.

look at what Too Stroked is driving. we are all thinking I/O boats. there is a whole nother category...

Dismal design and build quality knows no bounds! The one I'm holding back on was exclusively an I/O though. There was a "high performance" Bayliner outboard only model though in the 1980's. Very low slung - which made it less obvious when it slipped beneath the waves due to catastrophic chopper gun construction failure.

They did make Arriva outboards!:poopoo:

I already said....
 

Cobra. ?? I know they had the Arrivas too but I think built one called a cobra for a couple yrs. Most had the infamous 5 cylinder Chrysler/Force.

I have owned my Mach 1 for years now and it's an awesome boat for the money! Just don't expect to go very fast but the ride in heavy waves is very respectable.

wow finally a voice of reason

Has anyone mentioned Challenger yet???

Again I will say Profile OffShore Performance Boats and anything Randy Shultz has to do with.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...=profile+boats

Look through this thread you guys that haven't been around here long can get a good laugh.
The old timers will remember what a chunk of chit he and his boats are.
Gets real good around page 6 or 7

Haha. I remember that thread. Too funny!

what about them?? i love mine. the previous owner didnt take care of anything on it, it was in shambles when i got it, faded so bad and oxidized so heavily you couldnt tell what color it was supposed to be. had enough gel on it to sand and buff it back to what i call "respectable" for a 1987 model that has been severely weathered. the guy never bothered to cover it either and when i opened up the floor i found the stringers were gone from the helm back. everything else was pretty good shape. sometime in the 1990's they changed the lay up and everything is fully glassed in now. i have a few relatives and friends that have early 1990 models and they have held up fantastically. like was mentioned before in this thread, all manufacturers may have an issue from time to time, for the most part Concords are a solid built boat and i would definetely not classify them as "bargain brand" boats. only issues i had have with mine is crap the previuos owner neglected or decided to half ass. they have good handling as well. Brian, the owners son, has a 20 ft Mach III with a 502 MAG that will run 85 all day long. Dont know what you have heard or experienced but over all they are great boats.

they also have held speed records on the mississippi river with both 20 and 23 ft models. and best of my knowledge merc did testing of the black hawk drive on the 20 ft Concord Mach II. My buddies dad has one of two built with a blackhawk and when it left the factory new in 1997 it ran just shy of 80 with a 350 MAG MPI, runs 73-74 here at 3000 feet above sea level.

Maybe the Mich Challenger, not the NY one!

mi.

Rinker built a 26 or 27 few years back......

That was some fun reading