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low_psi 04-16-2012 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 3665366)
Again I will say Profile OffShore Performance Boats and anything Randy Shultz has to do with.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...=profile+boats

Look through this thread you guys that haven't been around here long can get a good laugh.
The old timers will remember what a chunk of chit he and his boats are.
Gets real good around page 6 or 7

Wow, just read that entire thread. What a POS Randy is! Wow!:lolhit:

frankenstein 04-16-2012 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3663628)
This could very well be the winner.

1988 Peterborough Indy 220 I bought new. 460 King Cobra package

I owned it 2 seasons. Total running time of 119 hrs from new.
It blew 13 drives. I think it spent more time at OMC than with me.
The seat bases pulled out of the floor 3 times and the seat swivel brackets broke 5 or 6 times each.
Cabin doors and frame flew out of the boat and sank in Lake Ontario. Oh ya, and so did the engine hatch.
Cockpit floor lifted from the stringers.
Dash flexed up and down so bad it cracked the windshield on the passengers side.
Swim platform flew off on the highway one day.
Steering rack broke free from the dash.
Radio caught fire. Actual flames came out of the tape slot.
Every screwed part of the boat came lose, repeatedly.
I think I replaced every screw in the boat with the next size up and then epoxy, toothpicks and the next size up.


I traded it for my 1990 Power Play and the dealer called me a week later to ask about the repair to the port stringer. I said no repairs that I knew of. He then told me the motor mount ripped out of the stringer with a 18" long piece of stringer still bolted to it.

Great looking boat but it literally fell apart as it went.


And just for ****sandgiggles, I was turning left one day with it behind the truck on my way back from one of its multiple warranty visits when one of the trailer axles sheered off sending a wheel, tire, brake drum and axle chunk careening into the door of a parked cop car.

That is freekin hysterical. I had a 1977 17 ft Checkmate. What a piece of garbage. The deck flexed so badly that I bolted a 2x4 from the deck to the floor. I was actually afraid to walk on the deck before the half ass fix. But since I was just a teenager at the time, I did have a whole lot of fun with that boat.

the deep 04-16-2012 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 3665366)
Again I will say Profile OffShore Performance Boats and anything Randy Shultz has to do with.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...=profile+boats

Look through this thread you guys that haven't been around here long can get a good laugh.
The old timers will remember what a chunk of chit he and his boats are.
Gets real good around page 6 or 7

Thanks , that kept me entertained for awhile ....:angry-smiley-038:....:lolhit:

Michael1 04-17-2012 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 3665231)
Here's a story that you'll appreciate. The one I put the motor in was a rat. The pump was thrashed, I don't think it busted much more than 40 w/the new 340 HP Ford.
We did get the owner to let us replace all belts and hoses while the motor was out. We were by a local lake so we took it out to check for leaks etc. Lake had several water side bars so we of course had to stop at them to be sure it would hot start OK ;)
Anyhow, the lake had a mile long no wake zone in the middle that we had to go through. I left the rear seat and bulkheads out so I could watch the motor. I'm driving and owner of dealership is shot gun. I look back to check motor and notice 3 or 4" of water under it. Owner thought we'd taken water over sides but I knew different so it was not a good sight.
Couple mins later I check again and it's now deep enough that the harmonic balancer has a rooster tail shooting straight in the air! Lake was shallow but we were still several mls from the ramp and knew it'd be expensive to get it up and back.
We made an executive decision and I put my foot up it's ass and headed towards the beach closest to us. Now water is coming FAST! :lolhit:
So we blow through the rest of the no wake zone, head for the crowded beach :helmet: w/the owner standing up and screaming at the people on the beach to get out of the way! The boat is now heavy enough that even @ WFO we're down to probably 20 MPH's.
The people scattered right before I drove the thing up on the beach! It had so much water in it that it blew the 6" X 9" speakers out of the seat base and they and the empties bounced off the windshield just missing our heads!
Soon as it stopped moving I jumped out and cleaned up the evidence just before the man gets there :thankyouthankyou:
He assumed we were just a couple of drunks (that lake is known for them) and was not happy when he stomped up to our 20' jet boat on his beach.
I quickly explained what happened, pointed out the through hull fuel tank bolts as the likely culprit and his reply was "get that POS off my beach and don't you ever bring it back to my lake!"

Being a jet guy you of course know that it was the two cooling water supply hoses from the jet pump to the motor that I did not know were hidden under the pump.
So the faster we went (WFO the whole way), the faster the boat filled w/water.

And now back to regularly scheduled programming.

Oh yeah, 1 more for the Switzers. I only looked at one close but is was scary and exactly what you guys have reported.

I wish I had a video of this, especially the part where your boss is waving everyone on the beach to get out the way.:lolhit:

Too funny!

Michael

Twin O/B Sonic 04-17-2012 04:41 AM

Funnniest part was...
 

Originally Posted by Michael1 (Post 3665651)
I wish I had a video of this, especially the part where your boss is waving everyone on the beach to get out the way.:lolhit:

Too funny!

Michael

the owner debating whether to tell the owner of the boat or not. He was an extremely large individual w/questionable background and paid us w/a bag of cash if you get my drift.
I knew he planned to frequent that lake so knew we had to tell him.
I volunteered. The dude actually thought it was hilarious! I took him out and showed him the bottom of the bottom and that we had (amazingly) done zero damage.
Didn't make much money at that place but had tons of fun and stories.
We were one of the first to have the Winger water balloon sling shots and when bored would bean cars at the used car lot 3 doors down. Owner there was also a giant of a man and busted us one day. He came storming towards us and we all thought we were going to die! Every one else scattered but I stood my ground.
The guy looks me in the eye and then proceeds to tell me he was in his office/trailer looking at his dirty cars thinking he needed to wash them when all of a sudden balloons full of water started falling from the sky :lolhit:

Dean Ferry 04-17-2012 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 3664008)
How about the Bayliner Cobra ;)

Yep,
An old girlfriend had 1 and we almost sunk that boat a couple of times, what a POS!:eekdrop:

Brad 04-17-2012 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3663628)
This could very well be the winner.

1988 Peterborough Indy 220 I bought new. 460 King Cobra package

I owned it 2 seasons. Total running time of 119 hrs from new.
It blew 13 drives. I think it spent more time at OMC than with me.
The seat bases pulled out of the floor 3 times and the seat swivel brackets broke 5 or 6 times each.
Cabin doors and frame flew out of the boat and sank in Lake Ontario. Oh ya, and so did the engine hatch.
Cockpit floor lifted from the stringers.
Dash flexed up and down so bad it cracked the windshield on the passengers side.
Swim platform flew off on the highway one day.
Steering rack broke free from the dash.
Radio caught fire. Actual flames came out of the tape slot.
Every screwed part of the boat came lose, repeatedly.
I think I replaced every screw in the boat with the next size up and then epoxy, toothpicks and the next size up.


I traded it for my 1990 Power Play and the dealer called me a week later to ask about the repair to the port stringer. I said no repairs that I knew of. He then told me the motor mount ripped out of the stringer with a 18" long piece of stringer still bolted to it.

Great looking boat but it literally fell apart as it went.


And just for ****sandgiggles, I was turning left one day with it behind the truck on my way back from one of its multiple warranty visits when one of the trailer axles sheered off sending a wheel, tire, brake drum and axle chunk careening into the door of a parked cop car.

This is going to be hard to beat!

Too Stroked 04-17-2012 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Dean Ferry (Post 3665838)
Yep,
An old girlfriend had 1 and we almost sunk that boat a couple of times, what a POS!:eekdrop:

I remember a kid bringing one of those in for us to look at one day at the marina. He bought it (cheap) with no motor and wanted to screw something well over the limit to the transom. The Service Manager and I looked at it, looked at each othe in horror (totally rotted) then turned to the kid. "I wouldn't screw a bottle opener to that transom" were the words I recall the SM using.

dereknkathy 04-18-2012 06:13 AM

i don't think Renken ever made a perf boat, or it would be the winner...

blckkat 04-20-2012 08:21 AM

great thread! speaking of Bayliner Cobra's, I felt my heart sink when I read how much this poor guy dumped into his!
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/boa/2967771604.html

Too Stroked 04-20-2012 10:08 AM

Nobody going to mention a Celebrity Firestar?

mikebrls 04-20-2012 01:35 PM

the worst is the boat you pay for and can't get :)

djvert 04-22-2012 07:24 PM

Awesome cats

Famous Tater 04-23-2012 10:23 AM

Heyyy....who said Interceptor! :party-smiley-004:No issues with mine! You have to be smart enough to know that it is not a 70 mph Power Boat but, rather a respectable 60-62 mph runner that has nice styling and can hang around some others of the same size, like a Baja 23'er. Now...would I buy a NEW Inerceptor for the money they want? Nope...would buy something else used in the same price range and have more boat but, for the deal I got on my Interceptor (23' with Bravo I and a 454), I will take it!! :thankyouthankyou:

jln 04-23-2012 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by frankenstein (Post 3665564)
That is freekin hysterical. I had a 1977 17 ft Checkmate. What a piece of garbage. The deck flexed so badly that I bolted a 2x4 from the deck to the floor. I was actually afraid to walk on the deck before the half ass fix. But since I was just a teenager at the time, I did have a whole lot of fun with that boat.

Sounds like your boat was most likely a POS from prior abuse , as many others have mentioned Checkmate's are well made . they do have alot of wood and like to be cared for, there are still a ton of older solid boats floating around , they often make a great buy for the person looking for a solid boat at a good price. i have owned 5 with no problems and Checkmate is a solid company to deal with. Am i missing the point of this thread is it new performance boats or any roach that someone bought as an abused boat.

onestrghtridaa 04-23-2012 04:10 PM

I love how everyone talks soo much **** about Profiles...I have a 1994 29' with a single in it and I use the boat every weekend and love it! For the money I think they are great boats. If you run them on LOTO yes they will get broke up but what boat doesnt if you pound it to death! I have owned 3 Baja's and I dont think they are built much better than the Profile nor are Checkmates. I think its funny how people compare Profile to Fountain and Donzi...not on the same playing field and never will be. I couldnt be happier with my 29.

1987pachanga22 05-03-2012 02:12 PM

F to a bunch of you all! Look at this 1997 47' Fountain with rotted stringers. http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/f...owerboats.html
It happens to the best of them and unless you’re uneducated when you buy your boat you get what you pay for and it's on you if you didn't do your homework. Not all of us have the cash or the want to blow it all just to keep with the level of the next guy.

Crossett 05-03-2012 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Too Stroked (Post 3663459)
Sure, we could talk about Aronow cats, 24CS Fountains and 18’ Skaters

What's wrong with the 24CS?

Airpacker 05-03-2012 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3663628)
This could very well be the winner.

1988 Peterborough Indy 220 I bought new. 460 King Cobra package

I owned it 2 seasons. Total running time of 119 hrs from new.
It blew 13 drives. I think it spent more time at OMC than with me.
The seat bases pulled out of the floor 3 times and the seat swivel brackets broke 5 or 6 times each.
Cabin doors and frame flew out of the boat and sank in Lake Ontario. Oh ya, and so did the engine hatch.
Cockpit floor lifted from the stringers.
Dash flexed up and down so bad it cracked the windshield on the passengers side.
Swim platform flew off on the highway one day.
Steering rack broke free from the dash.
Radio caught fire. Actual flames came out of the tape slot.
Every screwed part of the boat came lose, repeatedly.
I think I replaced every screw in the boat with the next size up and then epoxy, toothpicks and the next size up.


I traded it for my 1990 Power Play and the dealer called me a week later to ask about the repair to the port stringer. I said no repairs that I knew of. He then told me the motor mount ripped out of the stringer with a 18" long piece of stringer still bolted to it.

Great looking boat but it literally fell apart as it went.


And just for ****sandgiggles, I was turning left one day with it behind the truck on my way back from one of its multiple warranty visits when one of the trailer axles sheered off sending a wheel, tire, brake drum and axle chunk careening into the door of a parked cop car.

I was showing this thread to a buddy last night and as he laughed, remembering all the "good times" I had with that POS, he reminded me of one more major issue with it.

During the second season I owned it, I dropped it off the trailer into a very deep lake and went and parked the truck and trailer.

Fired it up, eased it out of the ramp and idled out of the launch area. we were putting along and the bilge pump comes on. Strange, I just put the plug in on the trailer and there was no water in the boat. I lift the hatch and water is spitting up off the fan belts :poopoo:
I stick my hand in my pocket and nope, no plug there. WTF?? Where is the water coming from. Well, the water is coming in faster than the pump can get rid of it and I think to myself, we are going swimming and this sucker is going down in over 100 feet of water. I spun the wheel and pointed it back to the ramp and used as much throttle as I dared. Beached the sucker on the concrete ramp and jumped in the water. Surprise!!! Not only is the plug not there but the entire fitting the plug threads into is gone leaving a 2" diameter hole in the transom. Surprise again, the screws that were holding it in were all stripped and the smear of plain jane RTV silicone that was really holding it in failed. After thought said I should have just let it sink but oh no, I had to save my boat. What a dumazz :evilb:

boatguy94 05-03-2012 04:37 PM

I also have a 1994 29ft Profile, running a blower motor, that I enjoy greatly with no problems, well maybe some motor problems here and there. ( Have boat, and also a bank account)

RebarBox 05-03-2012 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by airpacker (Post 3678767)
i was showing this thread to a buddy last night and as he laughed, remembering all the "good times" i had with that pos, he reminded me of one more major issue with it.

During the second season i owned it, i dropped it off the trailer into a very deep lake and went and parked the truck and trailer.

Fired it up, eased it out of the ramp and idled out of the launch area. We were putting along and the bilge pump comes on. Strange, i just put the plug in on the trailer and there was no water in the boat. I lift the hatch and water is spitting up off the fan belts :poopoo:
I stick my hand in my pocket and nope, no plug there. Wtf?? Where is the water coming from. Well, the water is coming in faster than the pump can get rid of it and i think to myself, we are going swimming and this sucker is going down in over 100 feet of water. I spun the wheel and pointed it back to the ramp and used as much throttle as i dared. Beached the sucker on the concrete ramp and jumped in the water. Surprise!!! Not only is the plug not there but the entire fitting the plug threads into is gone leaving a 2" diameter hole in the transom. Surprise again, the screws that were holding it in were all stripped and the smear of plain jane rtv silicone that was really holding it in failed. After thought said i should have just let it sink but oh no, i had to save my boat. What a dumazz :evilb:

rotflol!

sparky24 05-03-2012 05:21 PM

yeah i can add to the switzer list i had a 22 foot 350 mag. the stringers were barely wetted out all the way with resin, the hull to deck joint was made with screws that liked to fall out, most of the deck hardware you could probably find in the walmart boat section.

Michael1 05-04-2012 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3678767)
I was showing this thread to a buddy last night and as he laughed, remembering all the "good times" I had with that POS, he reminded me of one more major issue with it.

During the second season I owned it, I dropped it off the trailer into a very deep lake and went and parked the truck and trailer.

Fired it up, eased it out of the ramp and idled out of the launch area. we were putting along and the bilge pump comes on. Strange, I just put the plug in on the trailer and there was no water in the boat. I lift the hatch and water is spitting up off the fan belts :poopoo:
I stick my hand in my pocket and nope, no plug there. WTF?? Where is the water coming from. Well, the water is coming in faster than the pump can get rid of it and I think to myself, we are going swimming and this sucker is going down in over 100 feet of water. I spun the wheel and pointed it back to the ramp and used as much throttle as I dared. Beached the sucker on the concrete ramp and jumped in the water. Surprise!!! Not only is the plug not there but the entire fitting the plug threads into is gone leaving a 2" diameter hole in the transom. Surprise again, the screws that were holding it in were all stripped and the smear of plain jane RTV silicone that was really holding it in failed. After thought said I should have just let it sink but oh no, I had to save my boat. What a dumazz :evilb:

Love the part about beaching it on the concrete ramp. That's always good for the gel coat. I can't think of a worse place to have to beach a boat. It's the concrete version of a rasp. :D

It just never ends with this boatl.:lolhit:

Thank you for all the laughs. :thankyouthankyou:

Michael

Airpacker 05-04-2012 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Michael1 (Post 3679072)
Love the part about beaching it on the concrete ramp. That's always good for the gel coat. I can't think of a worse place to have to beach a boat. It's the concrete version of a rasp. :D

It just never ends with this boatl.:lolhit:

Thank you for all the laughs. :thankyouthankyou:

Michael

Lake Muskoka. Concrete ramp or granite. Take your pick. :)

Just to add a little weirdness to the whole fiasco, if its not already weird enough, I ordered the boat from a place called Skinner's marina on the Trent Severn in Rosedale. Two years or so after I bought it, I heard a news story about the place. Seems the guy I bought it from, Ed Skinner found it necessary to shoot and kill the guy who he caught stoofing his old lady. Smart man that he was, he shoved the guy in his own car and drove it into the lake to sink it. Might have gotten away with it but, he used the boat ramp at his own marina to drive the car into the lake. Then he reported his car stolen.
Go figure.

buck183 05-04-2012 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3679318)
Lake Muskoka. Concrete ramp or granite. Take your pick. :)

Just to add a little weirdness to the whole fiasco, if its not already weird enough, I ordered the boat from a place called Skinner's marina on the Trent Severn in Rosedale. Two years or so after I bought it, I heard a news story about the place. Seems the guy I bought it from, Ed Skinner found it necessary to shoot and kill the guy who he caught stoofing his old lady. Smart man that he was, he shoved the guy in his own car and drove it into the lake to sink it. Might have gotten away with it but, he used the boat ramp at his own marina to drive the car into the lake. Then he reported his car stolen.
Go figure.

You can't make that kind of stuff up.

buck

hogie roll 05-05-2012 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 3665097)
Anything offered with a 454/Alpha or a King Cobra.

454/Alpha was offered!? We hooked one up to an alpha in a 22' '78 Mark Twain. We knew it'd blow, eventually. The first time I took it out, it wasn't planing off very easily and was only turning 52mph. I took a look around and found one of the plugs wires was hanging into the bilge. I hooked it back up. I'd had to hammer the thing pretty hard before to get it on a plane with 7 cyl. So I wasn't thinking, and did it again. That thing reared up hard and was half way on a plane when that poor alpha blew up. I had the engine cover off and my buddy was sitting on the backwards facing chair behind me. He nearly fell into the motor and was clinging to the chair white as ghost when that thing reared up to plain off!:D

We later put a bravo on it. It ran 62 empty. We hammered it for a summer. My brother noticed some small stress cracks on the bottom underneath the gelcoat after that season. We never ran it again:(

triple 300s 05-05-2012 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by Crossett (Post 3678665)
What's wrong with the 24CS?

They are gay.........

Too Stroked 05-06-2012 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Crossett (Post 3678665)
What's wrong with the 24CS?

Yea, that one probably didn't belong on the list as much as a few others did. They were well built and looked pretty cool (styled after the 47CS), but had a few issues. Working on the big block is beyond a royal PITA, interior space was rivaled by most phone booths of the day and in anything over a ripple, they rode like a floor jack. I will say thought that they do seem to be holding up well.

socalstone 05-16-2012 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 3664757)
Taylor Jet.
I replaced the 460 Ford for a customer and during the installation I noticed the fuel tank mount bolts appeared to come through the bottom and had no apparent bolt pads etc. I looked under neath the hull and sure enough it had four flat head bolts tun through the bottom into the angle pc's welded to the tank!!! We thought maybe it was customer done until the marina across the street had an identical boat in the their lot. I checked and it was identical.

Wow, I thought taylor had a good reputation. I laughed when I saw this thread as I thought about my jet.

It's from the Taylor LP mold but was built under the name Condor. Was NOT built well at all:
• Motor was not set up with advance on the timing
• the seat pedestals broke within a month
• the floor cracked after the first season
• water could get in around the belly tank but couldn't get out. had to drill weep holes in front of the motor to help with that.
• had other moisture issues that eventually rotted the tank.
• flimsy support under the deck
• lots of little things. the list could go on forever.

but the tank wasn't through-bolted to the hull!

But it is a gorgeous little boat. So I finally rebuilt the boat last year and now it's better than it ever. 10x better than new.

Bosco 05-19-2012 01:32 PM

How about martini, p&d, bannana boat, regal velocity, mach 1, imperial 27"magnum knockoff", vip vindicators, larson senza, just to name a few.
All were garbage craft!

dereknkathy 05-19-2012 01:50 PM

a 78 mark twain with a 454 and bravo. talk about a sleeper...

rchuntlsl 05-20-2012 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3664035)
Imp?

Mine is solid as hell. Definately not the fastest thing on the water. Everything holds up and the ride is good.

My boat selection for worst boat are the mid 90's 30' baja's with all the hull delamination problems. There is a reason the boat weighs 2000 pounds less than comparable boats.

Waveform 05-20-2012 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Bosco (Post 3691239)
How about martini, p&d, bannana boat, regal velocity, mach 1, imperial 27"magnum knockoff", vip vindicators, larson senza, just to name a few.
All were garbage craft!

Remove Regal Velocity from that list, great boats, the Larson Senza is a pretty good boat as well. My friends have an 89 that besides normal things here and there, is holding up very well.

dereknkathy 05-31-2012 06:09 AM

bowling balls!!! any AMF product. Crestliner Rampage and Slickcraft. ok too stroked, what is your nominee?

pullmytrigger 05-31-2012 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3679318)
Lake Muskoka. Concrete ramp or granite. Take your pick. :)

Just to add a little weirdness to the whole fiasco, if its not already weird enough, I ordered the boat from a place called Skinner's marina on the Trent Severn in Rosedale. Two years or so after I bought it, I heard a news story about the place. Seems the guy I bought it from, Ed Skinner found it necessary to shoot and kill the guy who he caught stoofing his old lady. Smart man that he was, he shoved the guy in his own car and drove it into the lake to sink it. Might have gotten away with it but, he used the boat ramp at his own marina to drive the car into the lake. Then he reported his car stolen.
Go figure.

Yeah quite the place. I launch at Rosedale Marine all the time which is 200 yds from the old Skinner's. Theres a story I got from several old salts at Rosedale. The story goes that Reeve was was buying new Four Winns runabouts/Cruisers from the factory unrigged. He would rattle can up an engine drive package from some old crock from the back of his Marina and installing them in the boats as new. Everything was fine until some people started to take their boats somewhere other than Skinners for warranty work, BUSTED!! A few months later he shows up dead in exactly the manner you describe. You hear anything about that? Maybe that was "disagreeing on how the Marina was to be ran"? LOL

http://www.mykawartha.com/news/news/article/905461

Too Stroked 05-31-2012 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by dereknkathy (Post 3699161)
bowling balls!!! any AMF product. Crestliner Rampage and Slickcraft. ok too stroked, what is your nominee?

Celebrity Firestar. And don't even ask me the thousands of reasons for the nomination.

WILDMAN 05-31-2012 10:04 PM

My friend bought a new 21 ft Glasstream back in 1988 for $15,000. It had a 260hp Mercruiser and a radar arch. Actually, a very cool looking boat. I crawled into the cuddy and looked at where the hull and deck were screwed together. THEY USED 2.5" SCREWS!! They stuck almont 2" into the cuddy all the way around! After two years, the front deck had such a huge dip in it that it held 1.5" deep pool of water sitting after every rain.

G-NOTE 05-31-2012 11:41 PM

Vip Vindicators... WOW what a joke!

When i was 18, I went looking for my first deep-v performance boat. I had only experience with jet boats prior to that. I went to the BAJA dealer and took a ride in a 20' Outlaw, but all they had was the Hammer. The salesman took me for a ride in a 454 Hammer, and I was REALLY impressed. Honestly the hammer was out of my price range. So I went across the street to the vip dealer, so I can see the "Cheaper entry level boat".

The sales guy ask me which baja I rode in, so I told him the hammer with the 454 mpi. He said lets take a drive in our 21' vindicator with a 350, he swore it would be faster and more impressive than my ride in the hammer.

Well once we got out on the lake, he throttled up and the boat felt like a paint can in a shaker. As we were going across the lake a 20' outlaw was coming at us. In the salesman's attempt to impress me he cranks it hard to the left to chase down the outlaw. Well I am a 300lb guy, and these vindicators came with bass boat chairs unless you bought the 24'. When he banked it hard the bolts in the base of the chair ripped out of the floor and I went down like Fraiser. The guy was so embarrased and appoligetic, but my wife literally pissed herself. That was the quietest ride back to the marina, but my wife had a grin that ajax and a brillo couldn't get off!!!

Needless to say, I ended up with a 20' outlaw...

hadleycat 06-01-2012 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by G-NOTE (Post 3699961)
Vip Vindicators... WOW what a joke!

When i was 18, I went looking for my first deep-v performance boat. I had only experience with jet boats prior to that. I went to the BAJA dealer and took a ride in a 20' Outlaw, but all they had was the Hammer. The salesman took me for a ride in a 454 Hammer, and I was REALLY impressed. Honestly the hammer was out of my price range. So I went across the street to the vip dealer, so I can see the "Cheaper entry level boat".

The sales guy ask me which baja I rode in, so I told him the hammer with the 454 mpi. He said lets take a drive in our 21' vindicator with a 350, he swore it would be faster and more impressive than my ride in the hammer.

Well once wew got out on the lake, he throttled up and the boat felt like a paint can in a shaker. As we were going across the lake a 20' outlaw was coming at us. In the salesman's attempt to impress me he cranks it hard to the left to chase down the outlaw. Well I am a 300lb guy, and these vindicators came with bass boat chairs unless you bought the 24'. When he banked it hard the bolts in the base of the chair ripped out of the floor and I went down like Fraiser. The guy was so embarrased and appoligetic, but my wife literally pissed herself. That was the quietest ride back to the marina, but my wife had a grin that ajax and a brillo couldn't get off!!!

Needless to say, I ended up with a 20' outlaw...

Now that is funny!

Interceptor 06-01-2012 07:44 AM

A brown Sea Sprite.


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