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Old 05-18-2012 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Indy
Actually the part that I reacted to was that he ran into some rogue waves and freighter wakes with no issues which implied (to me anyway) that it shouldn't happen to the OL29, you can't compare the two instances. Maybe I took it wrong but commented on my reaction in a subsequent post.

I don't disagree with having to find the root cause.
In mentioning the wave thing I was trying to say that while the Donzi 22 Classic is very much a driver's boat and will bite an inexperienced driver, it has proven to be quite forgiving when launching poorly off a giant wake or wave. That is, it always comes down straight. None of us know what happened with this OL but if one already flipped off of a wave at moderate speed then just maybe it has some bad handling tendencies. IDK, none of us know. Any boat can flip but this is a new model and has already crashed. As mentioned above, if it was being pushed beyond it's limits by a test crew then we have a whole different situation then if it overturned from hitting a wave badly while just being driven for pleasure. Indications are that this incident did not happen at high speed. I guess that we just need to wait for more information. OL is top shelf and I'm sure they will handle this properly.
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Old 05-18-2012 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
None of us know what happened with this OL but if one already flipped off of a wave at moderate speed then just maybe it has some bad handling tendencies. IDK, none of us know. Any boat can flip but this is a new model and has already crashed. As mentioned above, if it was being pushed beyond it's limits by a test crew then we have a whole different situation then if it overturned from hitting a wave badly while just being driven for pleasure. Indications are that this incident did not happen at high speed. I guess that we just need to wait for more information. OL is top shelf and I'm sure they will handle this properly.
I would remind everyone that AquaMania went over in the Key West harbor from a combination of factors that came together at just the wrong time. I don't think anyone who has driven a 50ft Mystic* will tell you it has bad handling tendencies.

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Old 05-18-2012 | 03:17 PM
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Lets say tab down rogue wave hits the high side of a light boat. Leverage on the tab with the wave. What do You think would happen ??? Just thinking out loud. Artie
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Old 05-18-2012 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
How fast was he going? Was he turning? Was he going straight? How much real testing and R&D actually took place before this model was sold to the public? Has it been tested in rough water? If so, at what speeds? Was he testing the limits of the boats turning/cornering abilities? That would be more understandable as this boat will need its limits tested before it hits the race circuit, but the passenger seems to of attributed it to a wave.

You guys really need to be more forthcoming with all the facts or the boating community will assume the worst.
Are you planning on plunking down 200 large to buy one? If not, STFU, it's none of your business Tex.

You think auto manufacturers or aircraft manufacturers publish the results of product development testing for John Q Public to see and comment on ?
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Old 05-18-2012 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J
What if said Porsche had the wheels off at one point and the tech just used an impact on the lugs and didn't use mfgr reccomended torque specs?
What if a monkey hid in the back seat bit him on the ear before the Porsch crashed was it the monkey or drivers fault
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Old 05-18-2012 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by akaboatman
Lets say tab down rogue wave hits the high side of a light boat. Leverage on the tab with the wave. What do You think would happen ??? Just thinking out loud. Artie
I had a monster wake hit the side of my Donzi Z-25 at approx 40 mph. ( I was not paying attention and was totally unprepared)The wave was enormous. The boat bounced off it and other than scaring the crap out of me, there was no harm done. I didn't however, have a tab malfunction as the boat in question has been reported to have.

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Old 05-18-2012 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Airpacker
Are you planning on plunking down 200 large to buy one? If not, STFU, it's none of your business Tex.

You think auto manufacturers or aircraft manufacturers publish the results of product development testing for John Q Public to see and comment on ?
So your not even curious if they were going fast or turning? You'd rather bash the guy for asking the obvious questions? I presume you will also be the first one to stick their head in the sand and bash the first driver that gets killed in one of these boats by blaming it on "driver error." Some of you guys should really be ashamed of yourself. You drink so much OL Koolaid you'd let your fellow boaters die in an accident before you'd let anyone say anything bad about this boat or ask any questions related to the rollover.

I don't think auto and aircraft manufacturers take product orders until after testing is complete.......and for good reason.
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Old 05-18-2012 | 05:05 PM
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These threads are such bu!!sh!t. Most every manufacturer has had an issue or two, my guess is they all try to make changes "if" its something wrong, but the bottom line is most all boats, especially Vee hulls, are running way too fast now-a-days...and that is when Sh!t Happens.

OL has a great reputation, but some come on here and just want to start crap.

What a shame.
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Old 05-18-2012 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
I don't think auto and aircraft manufacturers take product orders until after testing is complete.......and for good reason.
What makes you think testing hasn't been completed? From what we know here it's a mechanical issue, not a hull related issue right?
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Old 05-18-2012 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kreed
All disagreements aside, this boat is NOT ready to be released to the public if the owner of the company rolled it during testing. Whether is is trim tab, a slippery bottom, a rough wave(9:30 AM?), or just pushing the boat to its limits, there is obviously still some safety issues that need to be ironed out first.
I think they have only built 2 of these, im sure they are going to suspend any sales until they have things worked out, now that this is public info they will not want any liability with these 29's, impositive mike will make sure there are no design issues before he sells any more
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