Thinking about selling THE Batboat...
 

After 15 years and a series of upgrades, our boating tastes and preferences are starting to change. Since this is such a unique boat, it's hard to know how to price it. For sure, it needs to go to an owner that understands the compromises that accompany the benefits of owning a boat like this. It's fast, it's economical (3.3 mph @ 55 mph), and it's reliable, but it requires attention at high speeds and around the dock.

The basics:

1. Hull built in Norway in October 1994 at Batbygarrna (raceboat yard) fully-cored with Divinycel (including the bottom and interior liner), 40% Kevlar and vacuum-bagged. "One of the best-built hulls I've ever seen." - Bobby Moore
2. This is the ONLY lightweight pleasure hull (1800 lbs bare) in the US. All the other 28's are US or Canadian built, and most likely solid layup and not vacuum bagged.
3. Rigged by Bobby Moore in 1997; re-rigged and re-powered with an Ilmor MV-10 725/Ilmor package by Penske Racing personnel (me and others) in 2010. The entire re-rigging process is fully documented with extensive photos.
4. Paint by GrafikEFX.
5. Best performance to date is 103 mph at 5900 (engine good to 6400). More speed is there with some set-up work.
6. Hering 5-blade prop, Livorsi VantageView gauges, Garmin 740 chartplotter, MarineAir air conditioning in cockpit and cabin, 3 group 31 batteries with 2000 watt inverter, Carbon seats, South Florida trailer with new disc brakes in 2010.
7. Full towing cover, cockpit cover, and roof extension canvas included.
8. 42 hours on the Ilmor package. Extra Mobil One 1w40 and oil filers included.
9. Sony/Canton stereo system.

There are several small projects to be completed before it is back to "this boat needs nothing" condition, so I am willing to negotiate somewhat on price with someone who is comfortable taking those projects on. I am also happy to finish the work myself, given the time.

By my reckoning, the components alone to build this boat come to over $160,000 before any labor is included. I'm thinking of starting at $85,000. Any feedback (or interested buyers)?

That's a damn shame Chuck. I never got to see it blast across the upper bay.

Good luck with the sale.

You said yourself there are several things that need to be completed before it is a perfect boat..... and the hull is almost 20 years old. I'm thinking 35-45K would be a good start.

That is allot of boat and hardware!
Steve

That looks really nice but why does it have a roll cage?

The wholesale, bottom dollar blowout price on a 40 hour 725 V-10 with Indy Drive would be pretty much eat up that $45k itself. Hell if he had two of those packages I would think hard about buying both of them. Beyond that, what is the hull itself worth? I have no idea but it's worth something.

Sad to see you are going to sell it.

Most 20 year old single engine boats would be lucky to get $45,000.
That said, this is FAR from your average 20 year old boat!
Aside from the obvious Ilmor/Indy upgrade, there are very few of these original 28's out there.
Not only is it blisteringly fast, let's talk about how it draws a crowd at the docks and ramps!
To top that off, there are so many one off and custom engineered pieces in that boat, it would make your head spin. Let's not forget who Chuck worked for (or works for .... kind of like the CIA of Indy Cars .... you never really leave :-)). The time, engineering, and hours invested are insane.

Yes, it will take the right kind of buyer but it is a very unique boat.
At less than 1/2 the price of a 29OL you can truly have a one of a kind boat!

Start at $85K, never hurts to ask............ and slowly move on down to $60K. These are truly incredible boats if you've ever seen one in action on the race course.

The projects are small: re-installing the A/C unit, installing cabin and cockpit courtesy/accent lights, a couple of plumbing clean-up jobs and some paint and interior touch-up. Nothing significant; just getting it to perfect/Robb Report status.

A bare hull built to this specification would be over $50,000 (sitting on the dock at the manufacturer in Norway). Hull hours are probably about 500, and it is rock solid. A complete survey was done in June 2011:
"THE VESSEL WAS FOUND TO BE IN OVERALL EXCELLENT CONDITION. THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR SHOW AS NEW. THIS IS A VERY RARE VESSEL AND THE ENGINE AND DRIVE ARE EXPENSIVE AND NEW. THIS VESSEL HAS BEEN METICULOUSLY MAINTAINED AND IT SHOWS. THIS VESSEL IS CONSTRUCTED OF HIGH TECH MATERIALS AND TECHNOLOGY AND IS ONE OF THE CLEANEST 1995 BOATS I HAVE SEEN. WITH THESE FACTORS IN MIND I AM APPRAISING THIS MANNERFELT B-28 "TRY ME" AT $100,000.00"

I would sell it to someone in Norway then...

All helpful comments are appreciated...

You requested feedback in your initial post and this is not a boat for sale ad.......

It may be 20 years old but it looks two years old, and it is very fast.

I think your starting price is fair at $85,000.

Awesome ride, no matter what the year of the hull is. Good luck C-Spray, You'll find a butt for that driver's seat!
Dean

Does the scale model go with it? :D


I am sure it was a difficult decision to sell, good luck with the sale.

not yet Dave...... "Thinking about selling THE Batboat..." :evilb::evilb::evilb:

oops . . . missed that lol . . . . well good luck making a decision weather to sell or keep or ??? . . . . lol :D


wish i could help but i already like four or five of these things around the shop :picard1::D

If it was 35K, my next question would be, "When can I pick it up?". :)

Michael

You can rent one&race it for $6K !It''s a nice boat but $85k price high:poopoo:The yellow one on here is still not sold same design newer hull:whistle:

$6k gets you a boat for a couple of hours, not forever.

Can you point me to that ad? I doubt if it's a 28'; they are very rare. The 24's are to 28's like Miatas are to Vipers - both are fun, but VERY different animals. This is not a stripped-down raceboat, so it's very hard to comprehend it unless you've seen it, like SMiklos, Tom A, Expensive Date or Glassdave. Photos don't do it justice.

If the market doesn't support a reasonable price, it stays with me. What the heck - it's paid for. :)

Sad to see this thread. I was hoping to get a ride on this boat one day. Good luck C. I hope it works out for you.

That is like comparing a '72 Mustang 6 cylinder coupe to a '68 Shelby GT500KR.

They are both mustangs and the '72 is newer......:party-smiley-004:

Do you have a link to the yellow one?

:whistle:2007 V-28 Vector=Bat boat @phone=928-707-7207 $89,000 Yellow in Arizona I think???:whistle:I can't find the ad right now??:stooges:

Ah! Vectors are VERY nice boats. I know Rex Jardine (the owner), and he cuts no corners. Those boats are built from the identical hull and deck molds as mine, but have significantly different interiors, and are (I believe) solid layups. I think I know the boat you're referring to (Teague power). Typical new pricing for those boats is in the low $200k range.

In 2008, Powerboat tested the Vector V-280 with a 700 Ilmor.

The as tested price: $259,000.

Good analogy:ernaehrung004:

No it's like comparing a 2011 Vette to a 1967 Vette:whistle:Nice boat but settle down way over priced!:helmet:

Chuck,

No harm in asking what you think it worth. It is a unique boat with a great-new power/drive package. I have always like the Bat boats.

A quick Bat boat story for ya, I was at the Miami boat show in 1994 (it might have been 1995). Armada had a bat boat with the Volvo engine package and the duoprop in the water. I went on a demo ride in a 42' Fountain with triple motors and were were running by the cruise ships and along comes the Bat boat, I think Jack Haney of Fountain was driving, and I told him let's smoke that boat (the batboat).....well we never did catch him, and that was in some pretty sloppy water water for that Bat boat (waves had no effect on the 42' Fountain), and I was stunned we could not catch that Armada bat boat, in a triple engine 42' Fountain. I became a believer in the BAT boat that day.

Keep it!

:blahblah:[QUOTE=Smarty;3726021]Chuck,

No harm in asking what you think it worth. It is a unique boat with a great-new power/drive package. I have always like the Bat boats.

A quick Bat boat story for ya, .I have a better story Bat boat is great hull in big water but !!So called 90 mph bat Boat open boat got spanked by a 22' Donzi&Superboat in decent size water:hijack::hijack:a triple Fountain 85-90mph boat so the Bat boat had to have big power!!Because they do about 80mph with a duo prop&small block?Not that I doubting your story!Just sayin!!:party-smiley-004:

Smarty - That was this exact hull (silver at the time) if it was 1994. Volvo was using it as a demonstrator for the (then) new DPX drives. The engine was a 385 hp 454 (Volvo's version of a 454Mag). When I bought the boat in 1997, it had 300 hours on it and Troy Hannon and I took it out for a final test run before re-rigging it. It ran 75 mph, and he was stunned.

Armada had two of their boats there in 1999. The black/orange one with the 525 shown below was in the water and ran about 85. The blue/red one (also shown in Baltimore) with the 390/502 was at the Convention Center. It ran in the mid-70's.

To all those who sent PM's or called: Thanks for reaching out. Let me know when you can come by for an inspection and demo. In the meantime, I'm making decent progress on the job list as weather permits. If this leads to any decent offers, so be it. If not - Oh, well - it's paid for...

1994 boat $85k you better block my answers:angry-smiley-038:

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Hello all with nitrous in the blood. Price on Ocke Mannerfelt boats. Old boats yes, but still going strong, normal price on this boats are from 10- 50k, depend on whats in them, hull with all but engine normally bring 10-15 k. Kind Regards Peter

This past year I have had a couple of light hearted offers to sell our V-24. A couple of weeks ago I ran 1/2 of the Shootout Poker Run om LOTO with my son (Junior in College) and it was so much fun that I am not sure that I could sell it now (unless I could find a project 28).
I guess my point is that if you want to sell it, DON"T go drive it! If you do take it out, you will probably not want to sell it! Good luck with whatever you figure out.

Obviously, I'm flexible with pricing if there are any serious offers. Since it's paid off, I'm not in a great hurry. Besides, this isn't the greatest time of year to sell anyway...

Were you staying at Kapilana last weekend. We were there and I can't believe how well that boat handled the LOTO water! Awesome boat! Sorry for thread hijack

That was us indeed! Between just goofing off, running in the poker run, goofing off some more, and then running up to and in the Shootout, we put about 250 miles on that little boat in 3 days, with much of it in the air (I wish that I had some pictures)! It is amazing how this Mannerfelt designed boat handled the rough stuff. It is like a sports car. It is my understanding that the 28 like what CSpray has is just as fun (or more), yet allows for more passengers. Might have to move to one someday.

The Lucas Oil 43 that was at Captain Rons is also a Mannerfelt designed boat that was constructed at Mystic for Nigel Hook and Silverstein. Nigel began his racing in a BatBoat in the 90's and had this built after racing several other hulls.

My bet is the first to test drive CSprays boat will buy it.

a baddd a## boat for sure, no idea on value, all I know is its cool!

Hey is this boat still for sale?