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stickman811 07-29-2012 08:34 PM

Boat Security Systems..Apparently I need One???
 
Not sure what Forum to post this in..so here goes.. Just got a call from the company gelcoating my boat..restoration almost complete.. and he tells me he stopped by the shop and noticed a puddle of oil under my rig and asked if I came and took my prop off. Neither question nor statement made me feel very good. I had him take a look around the boat and in the boat.. Oil in the bilge, oil cooler gone, flame arrestor gone, valve covers gone, prop gone, hoses cut galore, wires ripped out and sliced, gear handle ripped out of the side mounted fiberglass, hanging by a cable, buddy bearings smashed and broken, lugnuts gone. Now, aside from the 44 mag in my glove box and my conceal and carry permit and the NRA friendly gun laws in the state of Missouri, can anyone recommend a motion sensitive security system for my rig so after the Insurance company reimburses me for all the damages, I can protect my investment? I sleep pretty well at night in my town, but damned if I don't wanna spend all night waiting for some young punk to try'n sneak back on to my boat so I can add some fresh skull fragments and gray matter to my brand new upholstery??!

CigaretteSam 07-29-2012 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by stickman811 (Post 3741450)
Not sure what Forum to post this in..so here goes.. Just got a call from the company gelcoating my boat..restoration almost complete.. and he tells me he stopped by the shop and noticed a puddle of oil under my rig and asked if I came and took my prop off. Neither question nor statement made me feel very good. I had him take a look around the boat and in the boat.. Oil in the bilge, oil cooler gone, flame arrestor gone, valve covers gone, prop gone, hoses cut galore, wires ripped out and sliced, gear handle ripped out of the side mounted fiberglass, hanging by a cable, buddy bearings smashed and broken, lugnuts gone. Now, aside from the 44 mag in my glove box and my conceal and carry permit and the NRA friendly gun laws in the state of Missouri, can anyone recommend a motion sensitive security system for my rig so after the Insurance company reimburses me for all the damages, I can protect my investment? I sleep pretty well at night in my town, but damned if I don't wanna spend all night waiting for some young punk to try'n sneak back on to my boat so I can add some fresh skull fragments and gray matter to my brand new upholstery??!

http://www.boatalarm.com/


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raytart 07-29-2012 09:00 PM

Shouldn't the company doing the work for you be responsible through their insurance. This way you don't need to make a claim against your policy? Provided that the boat was in there posession.
I know how you feel. Years back, my Sleekcraft was at the repair shop and the stereo, speakers and equalizer were stolen. The Shop I dealt with at the time made good on it out of their pocket.

Shag555 07-29-2012 09:00 PM

Someone was in your boat a long time to cause that much havvoc. Sorry for your loss. Doesnt the shop have insurance?

stickman811 07-29-2012 09:24 PM

Their Insurance won't cover items left outside of their Locked shop space as they have a shared Lot with several other Boat shops and smaller companies without a gate, yet they assured me beforehand that they've never had any problems with theft or anything. Since this is my first claim EVER and I am a longstanding customer with my insurance company, i'm guessing my rate won't change much. I'll know more tomorrow AM.

raytart 07-29-2012 09:27 PM

Be sure to tell your insurance co. the details of being at a repair shop. I would think that if they could pass the loss onto another insur. co., they will.

Jay Gadsby 07-29-2012 09:28 PM

Usually making a claim against your comprehensive policy does not change your premium. At least in my experience. I am so sorry to hear about that man. Damn low lifes. Watch craigslist for stuff like your prop popping up. I hope you get it all squared away soon.

FIXX 07-29-2012 10:01 PM

fixx
 
as a shop owner..nothing is covered outside....i do have 4.5 mil in personal injury and x amount in shop keepers coverage and that alone would make a nice truck payment every month..every shop in my neighborhood has a sign on the wall saying their vehicle is not covered for theft of vandalism period no exceptions..please remove all personal items from your vehicles...now if it were inside thats another story...

sorry but it sounds like a inside job or someone near by may have been staking out your boat..

Randy Nielsen 07-29-2012 10:58 PM

I had some boats broken into at my shop a few years ago (mostly mine but a couple of customers also) My insurance co wanted model & serial # for the stereo equip stolen or they woundnt pay out but were more than willing to raise my rates. I ended up settling with customers out of pocket. I was trying to be nice to my customers but they got pissed anyway. One was pissed but accepted my gesture but the other threatened to sue me claiming he just put a high dollar blaupunct system in the boat but couldnt produce any proof. The cops literally told me "This aint CSI" & that was that. Two days later I had dogs in the yard, no more break ins but the cops were pissed. HMMM

FIXX 07-29-2012 11:00 PM

fixx
 
btw as for security you can call auto page,,they have a alarm that works with your android smart phone,,it will send you a text message it someone trips the silent alarm in your boat notice i said silent the alarm also has a tracking feature so if someone steals the whole thing it can be tracked via gps..
http://www.c3autopageusa.com/demo-video.html

i use to install auto page alarms back in the 80's..they are a good brand and have been around for a long long time..

phragle 07-30-2012 12:10 AM

from what you posted it sounds more like someone was trying to cause damage rather than steal. it prolly took a while and made some noise too...so somebody was comfortable there to do it. where any other boats there damaged?? Id start by first seeing who the shop has pissed off....then search from there.

TexasVines 07-30-2012 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 3741585)
from what you posted it sounds more like someone was trying to cause damage rather than steal. it prolly took a while and made some noise too...so somebody was comfortable there to do it. where any other boats there damaged?? Id start by first seeing who the shop has pissed off....then search from there.

this could be the case or it could just be "training" for someone trying to get a lot more that was interrupted or scared off

if they were looking to damage they could have just busted up the valve covers, flame arrester, and put holes in the oil cooler or bashed it up.....along with slicing and dicing the upholstery

sounds to me like they were after a lot more and or did not have a clue what they were doing and just got the things that came right off.....bashing the bearing buddies is strange, but taking off the lugnuts is not really damage cutting the tires would be....just idiots that did not have a clue

I would be looking right around there locally at any section 8 type apartments with some "indigenous types" frequenting the porches and stoops and be looking for a trail through the weeds leading to there......probably with nuts and bolts and tools and parts littering the way

the bad news is practice makes "perfect"

kevinb230 07-30-2012 01:11 AM

Take a look at viper alarms I use them in all my vehicals and utv's. There is an option for motion sensors and other useful options that you might like. I'm going to put remote start and alarm on mine soon.

stickman811 07-30-2012 08:43 AM

After looking at it, it just looks like they used the tools I had onboard, a utility knife, and the standard socket set I had in the side compartments. The insurance adjuster said I'm looking at about 2200-2700 to replace and repair the hoses, wiring, flame arrestor,and oil cooler with OE parts. I think I'm going to Upgrade the arrestor and oil Cooler and apply the difference myself. Any suggestions? I'm eventually going to beef up the motor a bit and want to have a compatible oil cooler on it.


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