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VtSteve 08-08-2012 09:48 AM

Very interesting new Searay
 
I never would have known from the pictures.

A SR 370 with twin outboards. When I saw the pictures, I immediately thought of the new Active Thunder outboard.

Nice, clean look.


http://www.boattest.com/boats/boat_video.aspx?id=2752

CrownHawg 08-08-2012 10:02 AM

Cool! Talk about stealth outboards. Wonder what it sounds like?

Nate5.0 08-08-2012 10:05 AM

Pretty damn neat.

Very cool and I have to say I like it. Good job by them.

Griswald 08-08-2012 10:06 AM

That's pretty cool

Captain YARRR 08-08-2012 10:16 AM

Awesome concept. That is very innovative!

CigDaze 08-08-2012 10:27 AM

A functional, comfortable stern with hidden O/B's. It's genius! I like it a lot.
But with a dry weight of over 15,000# and only 600HP, I wonder what the performance is like...I can't imagine it's very impressive. That's a lot of boat for that little power & torque.

Fenderjack 08-08-2012 10:35 AM

Def a neat set up. needs a set of Seven marine out boards on it :D


John jr

Smarty 08-08-2012 10:40 AM

I like their thinking, smart people with a good idea. SeaRay does does build a nice boat.

Rippem 08-08-2012 10:42 AM

that'll be huge in the Mediterranean market i would think

low_psi 08-08-2012 10:42 AM

First time I clicked the link, it took me to a test for a Sea Fox bow rider...... I thought maybe I was going crazy, so I closed the window and clicked the link again, this time I got the Searay review. Weird......

overlimits 08-08-2012 10:44 AM

Any report's on top speed yet ??

VtSteve 08-08-2012 10:55 AM

I agree on the power, that is a lot of boat for 600 HP. But many of those cruisers average twin 300 hp IO's, which are 600 pounds heavier than the twin OB's. I'd GUESS the max speed for this new OB is around 40 mph or so?

Searay said in the article


The Performance Question. We have not yet tested the new 370 Venture but the folks at Sea Ray have, and still are. The builder states that the 370 Venture has “jaw-dropping power and acceleration” … and has…"great fuel economy.”
Obviously trips would cause a major design problem for the stern doorway opening.
It does allow for a full-beam aft stateroom, which should be cavernous on most boats.

You get the sleek looks and profile of an express design, without the high beltline of cruisers with aft cabins.

I'm not a big fan of Searay cabin layouts in the under 40' range. But this one is extremely nice.

I personally love the way the cabin looks like a studio apartment, separate master with a kitchen.

I think what Searay has done here is HUGE.

CigDaze 08-08-2012 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by VtSteve (Post 3749119)
I think what Searay has done here is HUGE.

Agree on all of that. There's a lot of innovation there, and the interior room on that boat should be huge compared to others in it's class. If a top speed of 40 is indeed correct than I'd take back what I said earlier, but I'm skeptical. I mean with people and fuel, and junk she should weight in at somewhere close to 18,000 pounds. That's heavy!

VtSteve 08-08-2012 11:06 AM

I saw a SR 370 tested, weighing in at 19,000 pounds. With twin 38 Sundancer HP stern drives, it went about 35. So I did a WAG at 40.

VetteLT193 08-08-2012 11:13 AM

I'll take a 30 foot version with a smile. It's a boat you can actually leave in the water without major headaches.

This is one of the better ways of thinking in current boating. Pursuit is coming out with a similar model too.

VtSteve 08-08-2012 11:13 AM

Obama should buy me one. If he does, I'll vote for him ;)

It's only fair that I should have one.

Catmando 08-08-2012 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Fenderjack (Post 3749099)
Def a neat set up. needs a set of Seven marine out boards on it :D


John jr

You beat me to it. It would run 50+ with 7s.

CigDaze 08-08-2012 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by VtSteve (Post 3749136)
Obama should buy me one. If he does, I'll vote for him ;)

It's only fair that I should have one.

Sea Ray didn't build that. Thus, everyone should get one.

VtSteve 08-08-2012 11:34 AM

I doubt 7's would be worth it. A set of 350 Yammies might give it a little more oomph.

Hey, how is the Active Thunder outboard coming along?

five cent worth 08-08-2012 11:45 AM

After a some what long time period between true innovation in the boating world (lots of low level innovation and me too stuff), this is very enlightening.

If you guys follow them on Twitter or FB, they have been pounding the pavement getting the word out on this too.

VetteLT193 08-08-2012 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by VtSteve (Post 3749159)
I doubt 7's would be worth it. A set of 350 Yammies might give it a little more oomph.

Hey, how is the Active Thunder outboard coming along?

Those 350 yamahas are like 9=800 pounds. I wonder how it would do with 300 Etec's, they are about 100 lbs lighter than the mercs and don't require oil changes which would be really nice.

TexomaPowerboater 08-08-2012 12:13 PM

I'm blown away. Boating innovation of the year IMO. Hope they can get some decent speed out of her.

spectras only 08-08-2012 12:19 PM

The concept isn't new but I give Sea Ray the tumbs up to adapt the idea Bayliner did with the L drive in the past.

88Fount33 08-08-2012 12:22 PM

Like it
 
Wonder what they do with the exhaust gasses? Seems like they would get trapped under the hood, get recirculated a lot.

Wildman_grafix 08-08-2012 12:35 PM

I like it but don't see how the claim to tilt the motors up out of the water would work with that swim platform.

Funny, I have been thinking a express cruiser with outboards would be a good idea, seems Searay and AT both think so.

spectras only 08-08-2012 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by 88Fount33 (Post 3749207)
Wonder what they do with the exhaust gasses? Seems like they would get trapped under the hood, get recirculated a lot.

The Bayliner Capri with the stinky, smokey 2 stroke Force didn't have problems with exh fumes recirculating, so I'm sure the Sea Ray engineers addressed the venting scenario.

Dd24skater 08-08-2012 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by spectras only (Post 3749222)
The Bayliner Capri with the stinky, smokey 2 stroke Force didn't have problems with exh fumes recirculating, so I'm sure the Sea Ray engineers addressed the venting scenario.

Saw on Twitter they did a custom snorkel for the verados, and also heard wot is in the low 40's

Very cool well engineered boat, nice to see someone thinking outside the box!

scarab63 08-08-2012 02:53 PM

Theres another company. The name escapes me now, but they build sm bowrider boats with a covered o/b

Brad 08-08-2012 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3749298)
Theres another company. The name escapes me now, but they build sm bowrider boats with a covered o/b

Sunbird a company that used to be here in Columbia SC built some. I think they hit a homerun! I want to see a nice 33-35Sportfisherman with ths design. Is a 18 deg. deadrise normal for a crusier?

ziemer 08-08-2012 08:42 PM

This will probably be the first of many to come. From what I've heard, GM is retrofitting their entire line of engines (not to mention all the EPA catalytic converter crap) and the manufactuers are turning this way...less rigging, more space, less weight, better fuel economy, and similar or better performance...

twinskrewd 08-08-2012 10:51 PM

Wow, that thing's cool! What a fantastic idea!

ZP'd 08-09-2012 07:40 AM

Definetly a award winner IMO. Simple concept I never would think of.

BROWNIE 08-09-2012 08:12 AM

My god, Man! Sea Ray has invented the twin outboard. I hope they patented it or everybody will be using it.......

VtSteve 08-09-2012 08:47 AM

It's not the fact that they invented it, it's how they Implemented it, the concept behind the design. The outboard design was not something stuck on because of a need for alternative propulsion. They designed an interior cockpit and cabin that was what many people wanted all along, and incorporated the outboards because the facilitated that design.

Design has long been discussed as being form and aesthetics. There are plenty of examples of great looking boats. Center consoles that are filled with fishing goodies, fantastic looking hulls designs, and a couple of bench seats just in case people wanted to sit somewhere. Purpose is design, usefulness is design. How you prioritize your design elements has a direct impact on the usefulness of your boat for an intended purpose.

Thankfully, many boat builders are now adopting this concept. There are many examples of go fast boats that look fantastic on the outside. Inside, they have a couple of bolsters seen on every other boat, a cabin with seats that look like they're straight out of an old execution chamber, a vberth, and a porta potti that looks like a toy box or hamper. Some go much further in their useful design, but still are afraid to use a blank sheet of paper.

One of the reasons Active Thunder's new boat design was so widely looked at, was not because they stuck a couple of outboards on it. But rather, they used the advantages that outboards provide to offer a new cabin design.

I think in the future, those that just do the same old thing will be passed up by those that don't.

If you don't believe me, look at the attention this boat got here. This is a relatively slow cruiser on a go fast site. I think people realize that some of these design elements could very well be incorporated into performance boats as well.

ZP'd 08-09-2012 09:45 AM

First modern attempt I've seen twin outboards used on a Cruiser applicattion while incorperating them into the design.
I'd slap Etecs on it. Having owned two now the low end grunt of those 2 strokes would be benificial over the 4 strokes IMO. They pull hard out of the hole.

lookinforboats 08-09-2012 04:08 PM

Marinemax exclusive 370 venture!
 
If anyone wants to see this boat in person call MarineMax in Brick NJ at 732-840-2100

Jay Gadsby 08-09-2012 05:21 PM

Personally I like the idea. Imagine winterizing it, you can just rip the two of them out without the need to pull the boat out and remove outdrives, or half your interior. I highly doubt it was constructed to keep up with any of the sports boats out now, but it does present a cool idea for cruisers for sure.

akaboatman 08-09-2012 05:27 PM

I like the way you can back in to the dock. Nice rig.

lookinforboats 08-13-2012 07:05 AM

ttt

Indy 08-13-2012 07:22 AM

Great idea, I'd definitely consider it if I was in the market for that type of boat.


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