Fountain @ LOTO passengers injured in near rollover
09-06-2012, 02:39 PM
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I was a passenger when damn near the same thing happened in another boat. Call it busting chops but that dude is dangerous.
09-06-2012, 02:55 PM
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09-06-2012, 03:20 PM
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WOW !!!
This thread is unreal reading.
What I can't get over is how many long time members have saved their first post since joining for just this type of thread.
I, truly, believe that although being an incredibly unfortunate accident that a lot of good will come from this.
And bashing the Captain serves no purpose. I sure he's bashing himself. I still think that the left handed throttling might have caused some of the clumsiness in control of the sticks.
See ya,
Kelly
This thread is unreal reading.
What I can't get over is how many long time members have saved their first post since joining for just this type of thread.
I, truly, believe that although being an incredibly unfortunate accident that a lot of good will come from this.
And bashing the Captain serves no purpose. I sure he's bashing himself. I still think that the left handed throttling might have caused some of the clumsiness in control of the sticks.
See ya,
Kelly
if his left hand was on the wheel and right on the throttle would he have jerked the wheel all over the place like he did the sticks? Any fountain owner will tell you the left hand takes about 1 day to adjust to. It is irrelevant in this crash.
Say what you want about this being discussed, I am all for it. The more views on this site makes people see this CAN happen. As bad as it seems for the sport it is a rate inncendent that we can all learn from, and no one died.
A rouge wake nearly flipped the 50 ft my way just a few short weeks ago, and everyone blamed him as well. That was talked about for weeks, but did anyone in an 80 mph v-hull really think it could happen to them? This video is an eye opener and it may save future lives
09-06-2012, 03:38 PM
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I think the frame by frame really tells the story if you pay attention to the bodies and the list of the boat. He pretty much did what most of us do to jump a wake, turned to starboard to line it up closer to 90 degrees. But then he maintained that turn through the wake and the boat came down hard on the right side. At that point he has chopped the throttles (and probably turned the wheel a little farther to the right) and as Trey said, that will drop the bow and cause the stern to break loose, especially on a stepped hull boat. At that point the boat spun and they all went down. Then it came over to port and was very close to rolling in when the chine cut in (Mom got a face full of water). I have seen at least 3 race boats and one 38 Fountain pleasure boat spin in the exact same way, for the exact same reasons. (The pleasure boat was only moving about 40 but in a hard turn and the driver backed off the throttles). All that being said, how many of you guys have come down hard on one side or the other of the boat off a big wave? Although I think he could use a little throttle work, otherwise it was a series of small mistakes that bit this guy. And I wish everyone a speedy recovery.
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09-06-2012, 04:08 PM
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I wasn't assigning blame, it's just what I noticed the first time I saw the video. He appeared to be operating the sticks in a rather clumsy fashion.
First he had his hand upside down to the manner in which I and I'd guess most people would hold the throttles, he then switched back, and when he was on and off the throttle rapidly it looked like he was going the full range (idle to WFO) in a very jerky manner.
I've never driven a faster boat like his before but I've seen some of the vids where like this one of Avatar running wide open in the ocean, the thottleman maintains a much slower and narrower range sweeping motion with the throttle while letting off and reapplying the power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc5Y9NipiVA
It was the first thing I noticed when I saw the video.
My boat is so heavy I've never been out of the water to have to work my sticks, after what I saw I picked up the fact that you should reduce and apply the thottle in a much less abrupt manner and not a long way from the range as to where it was prior to having to power down.
And, CONGRATS, on your new boat. I seem to remember a thread that you might have even been considering a cruiser earlier in the year.
A 38 Lightning with 575sc's has got to be a wicked cool ride indeed!!!
See ya,
Kelly
First he had his hand upside down to the manner in which I and I'd guess most people would hold the throttles, he then switched back, and when he was on and off the throttle rapidly it looked like he was going the full range (idle to WFO) in a very jerky manner.
I've never driven a faster boat like his before but I've seen some of the vids where like this one of Avatar running wide open in the ocean, the thottleman maintains a much slower and narrower range sweeping motion with the throttle while letting off and reapplying the power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc5Y9NipiVA
It was the first thing I noticed when I saw the video.
My boat is so heavy I've never been out of the water to have to work my sticks, after what I saw I picked up the fact that you should reduce and apply the thottle in a much less abrupt manner and not a long way from the range as to where it was prior to having to power down.
And, CONGRATS, on your new boat. I seem to remember a thread that you might have even been considering a cruiser earlier in the year.
A 38 Lightning with 575sc's has got to be a wicked cool ride indeed!!!
See ya,
Kelly
09-06-2012, 04:14 PM
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I'm just hoping this 'ghost' cruiser doesn't turn out to have lefty sticks too.
Maybe we can find something else to blame it on now?
I wasn't there, didn't see what the occupants saw, have no knowledge of the drivers ability. So making any assumptions would be purely speculation on my part, so I won't.
I just hope for a speedy recovery for all involved.
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09-06-2012, 04:21 PM
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09-06-2012, 04:25 PM
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Well, if I were driving my cruiser and throwing a wake that size in that kind of traffic, knowing that anyone, including a 50' Meteor, would be placed in danger if they crossed it, I'd consider my self kind of a D!CK. YES, the captain should come off plane and let people by. What a jerk!
09-06-2012, 04:32 PM
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Bingo.
It's up to us to have our act together, know they're out there, and drive accordingly.
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09-06-2012, 04:34 PM
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Well, if I were driving my cruiser and throwing a wake that size in that kind of traffic, knowing that anyone, including a 50' Meteor, would be placed in danger if they crossed it, I'd consider my self kind of a D!CK. YES, the captain should come off plane and let people by. What a jerk!
