Torque Engineering V-12
 

Looking for the best drive to put behind my Torque Engineering V-12. Boat is a Carlson Offshore 33' with a notched transom. Engine will produce 1400 hp @ 1400 foot lbs. torque. Thanks for all feedback.

You can use a shaft drive if you fill that notch. I take it the drive hole has not been cut yet? Otherwise I would recommend the Sage Drive.

The original HP of the Torque was 1100. Have you supercharged it?

Do you have pics of your boat? Is this a new model or the old trimaran? I used to own a Carlson 24' trimaran, built in 1995.

Surface drive won't work.. Must be an I/O.. Made the mistake of buying a ASD 8 before researching the project.. Boat is set up for a SSM 6. I lucked out on the motor and tracked down the original motor builder and he has changed the valve train out and increased the hp.. As far as pics look for us on Texoma this next summer... This boat is one of three made. Reggie Fountain has one and the other is floating around somewhere in Colorado. Mine was the only one with the V 12 setup.

Sounds pretty wicked :)

Boat was origionally set up w a 2 speed cohen trans and the 6 drive. did jerry do the work on the motor? interesting boat to drive, great party platform. agree sage or 6 the boat is a huge 33, and was heavy.

How about a Merc #8.

I understand there were five 33s built by Carlson. Martin Sanborn's father owns one(according to him). I have been to Reggie's old shop to buy my 24 and there was no 33 there at that time(2004), nor did Sanborn say anything about it.

What about one of the xpower drives?

Yes, Jerry does all the work.. Explain the "xpower" drive??

http://xpowerdrive.com/frame_index.html

Also you can see some video's on youtube.

Thanks for the drive info. Will contact in the morning. Motor will be back from MI next month. If that drive can hold up to this application that will be great! The boat weighs 9800 lbs with vac flush/ac/gen, and is a nice entertainment boat. The 2 speed trans was not in the vessel when I pruchased it, just a good old velvet.. Once the boat is back the water plans are to install a 2 speed and then twin super charge. At that point we will run into drive problems again. An outfit in Missouri is getting upwards of 3000 hp from this Torque motor...

Handles 1500hp, not cheap, but very unique!

http://www.weismann.net/Press%20Page...annDuoProp.htm

What is this torque engineering V-12 engine?
Pictures??
Inquiring minds want to know!

Thanks for the info on the Weismann. The boat has a notched transom so I can't use a surface drive..

As I'm told, the Torque Engineering Company was to offer an IPO just prior to 9-11. They were a start up company from Elkhart Indiana. They were going to change the pleasure/race boat market as we know it. They manufactured a V 12 in four platforms. 900,1000,1100 and 1400 hp. Several factories signed up and took delivery of these rare motors. When 9-11 happened their IPO was taken off the table and the company went bankrupt. I'm not a motor head, but from I'm told my motor has real fuel injection with an Indy car computer and several other unique attributes that give it amazing torque and horsepower. I was lucky to track down the original motor build who is freshing mine. With only 8 hours total run time it did not need much. He changed out the valve train to create much more hp. Details to come!

Does yours have a gear or belt drive for the front accessories? From what I understand (and I could way off) there was an issue with the harmonics created from the original geared setup that was later fixed via a more typical belt assembly. I think Sterling had a hand trying to bring back this engine.

Would be nice to see these make a comeback but who knows if the tooling even exists. Glad you found the support you needed to bring yours back to life.

I thought Cosker bought the rights and Sterling bought out the motor program for these and had the rights for the motors?

They were too expensive and exotic and never ran correctly from what I've heard...custom parts, few guys on here can attest to that I think.

Brad Smith has a set too right? I don't know, just from my readings, good luck on the project...

I always thought those sage drives were really cool, being able to change the x dim on the fly etc...perhaps too complex for the standard non racing high perf owner...

http://web.archive.org/web/200201220...torquev12.com/

I think Brad has been playing with a set of these. Last I heard, most of the Torque stuff was in Marietta, Georgia.

Wow! Glad to see someone out there knows about these motors! They did have internal drive problems with the alternator but mine(thank goodness) has been retro fitted. They never ran correctly due to mapping issues that the software programmers could never figure out(fixed on mine). Jerry Sample is the original builder and was around from start to finish and at the end, ended up with most of the tooling and parts. I still need to solve the drive issue. Ideas???

Thank you for the info link. Looks like a cool engine. Something like the Falconer V-12.

The Merc 6 is a surfacing drive. If the boat was set up for that drive and has a notched transom you can run any #6 type drive, possibly including the Sage and Weismann drives. It would be worth a call to both of them to find out. I don't know Mike Sage but I do know Pat Weismann. If he says you can use his drives you can take it to the bank.

www.weismann.net

There is a thread in the superboat forum, of a 30 w/ a turbine and a sage.
Not sure if the boat was ever finished.

Just caught this. who is doing the work on your engine up here in Michigan? Sterling? Just curious, always liked this motor and figured they'd have great potential - especially as a twin turbo configuration.

Jerry Sample @ G and N Performance Racing is doing the work.