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I know we all love to get on YouTube and watch the GoPro videos of us going fast and running close with other boats etc... There are even a few of me on there but shouldn't we consider for a second that if we have objectionable behavior or close calls or god forbid a accident... Couldn't we keep it to ourselves?

The government and the insurance companies are out there waiting to change our lives and regulate us and our big horsepower machines. It isn't like we aren't high profile enough with our loud paint and exhaust noise. They want to raise our rates and our deductibles and look for everything under the sun to deny a claim or cancel our coverage. It's bad enough that things happen and people aren't always safe when you add testosterone and HP and a lot of times a few beers people act foolishly. Just look at the video from the Fountain accident at LOTO. It has went viral and on newscasts around the country. People already think we are unsafe because I can go out and run my boat 2 times the speed limit on the interstate... Those people have not only hurt themselves but now they have hurt us all.

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3 years ago to the date my friend had an incident and I saved him from drowning. Whole thing was caught on gopro. Never posted it publicly...

[QUOTE=gofastlvr;3768028]I know we all love to get on YouTube and watch the GoPro videos of us going fast and running close with other boats etc... There are even a few of me on there but shouldn't we consider for a second that if we have objectionable behavior or close calls or god forbid a accident... Couldn't we keep it to ourselves?

That's one perspective I suppose but I think there is tremendous value in sharing those hair raising experiences so others can learn from them.

Who on that boat, would actually post that vid of the fountain... Everyone on the boat got F..ed up. I have watched it 10 times now.

I know this may be dis-jointed,
We have only the one video. The boat is not moving real fast in the beginning. Between the passengers we can see the wake and the speed seems to be in the 20 to 30 mph realm. There is a blink in the recording, maybe only a second, likely not long. It seems to me that the entire clip is an acceleration.
It seems that the driver gets set and then accelerates and guns it into the "wave set", or some wave action.
Am I seeing it right?
I have heard no explanation for the severe throttle actions.
We know that the whole thing was not intentional.
Most of the time we are just having too much fun or trying to.

The Cruisers Wake did not cause the accident, it was just there like the water and the other boats, and had to be dealt with. The entire weekend is a wave jumble from other clips shown; therefore wakes and rough water are part of the deal.
I do not see any of the passengers yelling for more speed, but we do not know what they told him beforehand, or agreed to.

The severe throttle action is what has me puzzled.

I believe all the posts are just asking for an explanation.

Footnote:
I believe most posts are not vindictive. They are reactions to what is seen. Sometimes we react with more emotion than other times. We cannot perceive what is going on, and in this one cannot see ahead and what the driver saw. "What the ..... is happening?"

On any day, the driver is the only one "connected" to the action. Wheel, Throttle, position, anticipation, bracing for actions; therefore the rest of the crew is just floating about in the boat. They are not victims per se', but have no clue what may be going on in the drivers head until the action is taken. Speed decreases the time they can react.

We hope to learn something from all this pain.

Those people = laketv. They boosted their ratings at "our" expense.

In order for anything fun/dangerous/cool/illegal to survive in our society... the group of people must be tight knit - and structured. They must truely believe in the action as a whole.

Read on here 100 times that "they" are going to shut down "our" fun... How are they going to do that? Their boats arent fast enough... and they only hold a few people... Cant arrest 100 go fast captains til we hit land - water doesnt have the option of a road block? The problem is exactly what you said... broadcasting to the entire world our business.

I dont care what they say or do... ill always go down to the marina, make my way to open water and then let er eat. If "they" wanna stop me they better get some better hardware, or just kill me.

"When the fun is outlawed only outlaws will have fun"

"When the fun is outlawed only outlaws will have fun"

Where do I sign?

Laketv never should have released a video showing people being injured like that. From what I hear, (second person) it was put out without Tripps permission. Between this and the video of Docs SVL cutting no wake buoys, it sure put a LOTO in a bad light last weekend.

Redbud... i totally agree.

Pretty interesting thread. Those onboard recording devices & posting it on Youtube is all the rage nowadays. Yes, I believe it will give the Law the opportunity to review a bad situation & make decisions that will affect the other powerboaters(not involved) adversely. Damn shame.

The sad thing is they would love too, but this is America, u make ur own choices in life, u want to take a risk that's ur choice, the government just needs to back off and out of our lives, but insurance companies are a different issue!

Well when we can't participate in a poker run because they are illegal or the event insurance is too expensive or like here in Nashville... The TWRA (tn wildlife resources agency) or Corp of Engineers gets another reason to not allow the event to take place on "their" water then yes "they" will not allow "our" event where "we" can have fun doing what we love to do!

That is generally my point is the regulators don't like us anyway. I know here in Nashville and the MCPA have had difficult times over the last two years getting our event permitted. That is because of a couple folks that got a little too close to a bass boat running 100+. And we can't go offshore to unregulated waters... ask the folks who have speed limits on their lakes now about how much fun they can have now.

and exactly what America do you live in? We as a society are regulated to death!

First, please, please, please stop the twitter typing. ur is not you are and does anyone remember what a paragraph is or there is a space between sentences?

The video sucked for some of us that have fast boats and mine is not nearly as fast as a lot of yours. Like I stated on another forum I have no clue what the driver was doing with the throttles. It was almost like they were broken and he was trying to get them to work because no one I know would never move a stick around like that without wanting to break something no matter how bad they wanted to show off.
I'm also not saying that I have never made a mistake. Who knows maybe the guy had a wake and a cross wake that he didn't see, his boat didn't respond, steering broke... I wish someone would fill in the rest of the story. If it was just stupidity with all those people aboard the driver needs to be slapped. But the vid sure don't make us look good. To me its like someone showed the inside of a car crash. It was not pretty.
As for insurance. Nothing I own can be insured within any reason. We boat at our own risk. Its gives added reason to boat safe even if it is fast (by some of our standards).

I think what you see is an edit from when they take off, to just before the accident. It was probably more than a second, it could have been several minutes.

One thing is for sure. The driver was going way to fast for conditions, and his ability to drive through them.

I asked myself that very question, the first time I watched the video. Who in the world would post that online, for millions to watch?

Gofastlvr

I completely understand what you are saying... but whats to stop you and ten buddies from meeting up one morning at 7am and headin out for a fun run...? I boated all summer from clarksville tn to nashville (about 12 round trips)... was there during the cmt fest on the river front. Rafted up until 1am... then cruised back to rock harbor.

Never saw one law enforcement boat... with someone in it.

Back home in indiana now and these pricks run around like dogs in heat.

It was on the news. One of the passengers was on the news team and attached the camera. You don't think the news media would miss a chance to air out dirty laundry? ;)

That's awesome. I was getting ready to comment about the same thing. Put some effort into communicating. We're not 14 year old kids texting each other, we're adult professionals communicating in the modern world. It's not that hard folks.

Buck

Thanks for the update, I had no idea that's what had happened... Wow, too bad they decided too do that. I don't think there's a single boater out there that hasn't heard this story now. Unreal..

the only thing i saw in that video was a moron who does not know shiit about driving a performance boat making a really bad example of how not to drive a boat,i was there with my 38 fountain and drove right through the same waters, all good in my boat,just saying!:party-smiley-004:

You had to have herd what happened. Spill the beans.

video doesn't exist.

If that's true, Lake TV could find themselves in deep water unless a release form was signed. If the injuries were as they say there could be litigation and the video is evidence. Also the passengers might not want it on TV...the list goes on....

They shouldn't have posted unless all occupants gave permission. For what, so a few can learn something? That's great and all but maybe, just maybe, there's a lot more at stake for the owner of the boat and it's passengers.

I agree, I have made a few go pro vids and I can tell you by the wind in that video they are doing well over 20-30 mph

The first part of the vid is him getting on plane and trimming and tabbing up. There is a cut that comes back to WOT and wind blown hair, followed by light switch throttles and the accident.

I wish there was a video facing forward as well, or someone to actually explain this accident.

On the river there is very little enforcement because there isn't much recreational boat traffic compared to Old Hickory and Priest Lakes.

Nothing is going to stop a bunch of guys getting together and running but the organized poker runs are really what I love to do and want to keep around as a lot of people plan their whole summer around the Poker Run Schedules.

(Was that good enough for the English majors on this forum? I was typing on my phone and I sincerely apologize for not being diligent with my Elocution!) :lolhit:

The guy in the fountain Throttled it wrong without a counter steer and ended up on his head. As a x racer myself, i think we need to see this stuff to make us think what could happen and maybe we will think before some WOT at times.. But that is just me.

As far as go pro and stuff. I know for a fact we take more chances because it is on film. When you are on film you tend to" Go For It". This may have been the problem. Never operate a boat like that even w 1 beer in ya. Period

Then there are these guys.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVxtgvAb6w&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

This is on our river in front of Rio Villa.

Not to mention the lawyers.

I read how everyone wants 'government' to just leave us alone and stop regulating us. But you have to ask why are there rules and regulations in the first place. Because as whole we are not truly capable of using proper judgment or common sense. We have to protect ourselves from ourselves. Whether you agree or not it is our society, just look at the DWI, texting while driving, securing loose loads on trailers laws just to name a few. Most would completely agree, driving while drunk is stupid, texting while trying to drive is stupid and having rocks or equipment not properly secured to a trailer is stupid; but yet there are laws on the books that try and prevent accidents and tragedies because of past accidents and tragedies prior to the laws and rules (whew!). And still people don't adhere to them, today drunks, texters and lazy truck drivers will be on our road ways. Fortunately there are less than before the laws but non the less they are there. These laws should make most people think twice about their actions, but why have them if we all just used common sense in the first place? We as a whole we're sadly incapable and it will never change, until we are able to do the right thing laws and rules will continue to be in place and events like this one will not help prevent future rules and laws.

Sorry for the rant. :party-smiley-004:

Onboard video was all the rage 5-10 years ago when I was into the crotchrocket scene. Several of my buddies had them and the first think LEO wanted when he pulled them over was the tape. One guy even carried a magnet with him so he could wipe the thing in a hurry (this predates the current technology - no idea what a magnet will to do a mini chip). Unfortunately, once there has been an accident or an asserted illegal activity, erasing the tape = destroying evidence and can create a world of criminal or civil hurt. The best thing is to operate your vehicle (car, bike, boat, parachute, whatever) in a safe and sane manner. If you can't do that, be smart enough to turn the camera off.

After all, what are those famous last words? "Hay, Jake, watch this!"

Over the last several weeks I have been reading on many sites not just OSO on how "THEY" are going to shut us down. I believe that the day of a maximum speed in a power boat will be here before we know it. UNLESS, we the performance boating community do something about it.

I am not aware of any large performance boating organizations that have a voice. What I mean by this, is there an origination similar to what the NRA does for gun rights and ABATE does for motorcyclists? I'm talking about a pure go fast organization that will speak on our behalf.

Just a thought

Compared to the NRA or ABATE our numbers are insignificant as a lobby.
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Interesting that F'n's post contains about 10 grammatical errors however.:party-smiley-004:

Will you please point them out us? I want to make sure I am not making the same mistakes in my postings. :party-smiley-004:

:lolhit:

I think Buck was speaking to the spirit of F'ns post, not the letter. ;)

Okay, I gotcha. :lolhit:

Congrats folks... it was on CNN today....

It wouldn't be there if he hadn't been showing off for the camera. Nobody's fault but his own.

Agreed 100%, he had an accident.

However, that's not the question posed in this thread. The first post in this thread was about posting videos of accidents or questionable activity on the internet for all to see.

As I stated earlier. If the owner and occupants didn't give permission to post this video there might be a big legal problem for all and imposed speed regulations on all of us who are innocent. If the owner posted the video, shame on him. As a result, now it's on national TV which will more than likely effect you and the rest of us directly....

Lot's of unanswered questions...