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302Sport 09-14-2012 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by cyrus77 (Post 3776067)
Where can I find info on Cats vs Deep Vee

Call an insurance company, they will be more than happy to fill you in. :angry-smiley-038:

Brad Zastrow 09-14-2012 10:11 AM

I do not agree with the rough water statements made. "V hull is better in rough water". Go watch an offshore race and tell me when is the last time a V hull passed a cat in any kind of water with the same power. The only time a V hull is better is when it is so rough nobody should be on the water. 10' waves and up. It does take more skill to drive a cat in rough water but once mastered it is incredible.

pstorti 09-14-2012 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow (Post 3776835)
I do not agree with the rough water statements made. "V hull is better in rough water". Go watch an offshore race and tell me when is the last time a V hull passed a cat in any kind of water with the same power. The only time a V hull is better is when it is so rough nobody should be on the water. 10' waves and up. It does take more skill to drive a cat in rough water but once mastered it is incredible.

good point hadn't really though about that, but can you go slow in rough seas in a boat like yours or do you have to be flying the whole time, in a vee you can slow down to make the ride easier in rough water but in a cat don't you end up with tunnel spray and or water coming over the bow if you try to slow down?? I only had the eliminator 28 Daytona, so no experience with a 36+ ft boat with a real tunnel ... yet.

shootitup 09-14-2012 11:59 AM

Have experience (old ones) in 31 CC stinger and 30 Chris cat. In those set up's Cat is soo much Better in any water conditions especially in rought water. Stinger could not plane under 35 but cat can still in 25.
62 in stinger start to feel flying when 100+ in cat is like in rails.

Cat needs learn to ride (stinger wont).
Never turn back cat to any same size V.

Michael1 09-14-2012 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3776704)
Call an insurance company, they will be more than happy to fill you in. :angry-smiley-038:

Very well said. They will give you all the details. :D

Michael

Michael1 09-14-2012 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow (Post 3776835)
I do not agree with the rough water statements made. "V hull is better in rough water". Go watch an offshore race and tell me when is the last time a V hull passed a cat in any kind of water with the same power. The only time a V hull is better is when it is so rough nobody should be on the water. 10' waves and up. It does take more skill to drive a cat in rough water but once mastered it is incredible.

Those guys are in huge boats, and they are racing. They don't care about the ride.

There are going to be situations where the cat will ride better, and vice versa. If you slap the cat tunnel, it's not going to be a comfortable ride. If you take a 28' V-hull out into the Pacific, and a 28' Cat, I think most of the time, the V-hull is going to ride better. Smaller cats just don't have enough tunnel height.

Michael

X-Rated30 09-14-2012 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Michael1 (Post 3776964)
Those guys are in huge boats, and they are racing. They don't care about the ride.

There are going to be situations where the cat will ride better, and vice versa. If you slap the cat tunnel, it's not going to be a comfortable ride. If you take a 28' V-hull out into the Pacific, and a 28' Cat, I think most of the time, the V-hull is going to ride better. Smaller cats just don't have enough tunnel height.

Michael

Disagree - Cat is going to ride the same or better until the seas are big enough that neither should be out in them. After that you will still want a cat for its stability - sitting on 2 vees that are 4 1/2 feet apart instead of one.

Michael1 09-14-2012 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by X-Rated30 (Post 3776984)
Disagree - Cat is going to ride the same or better until the seas are big enough that neither should be out in them. After that you will still want a cat for its stability - sitting on 2 vees that are 4 1/2 feet apart instead of one.

It's fine to disagree. Your water is probably different that what I boat in (Pacific Ocean). We have wind chop and swells here. With a V-hull you can just slow down if conditions get bad. The cat gets its good ride from packing air. Slow down for bad conditions, and the air packing goes away, the hulls drop further into the water, and the bridge slaps. Therefore, the V-hull can go out in poorer water conditions than a cat, and still remain comfortable. The exception to this would be a non-performance offshore cat, such as a World Cat that has a super tall tunnel and hulls designed to cut waves.

Michael

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 09-14-2012 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by low_psi (Post 3776450)

Your question of what is the difference between a v-hull and a cat with equal power is too vauge.. Like asking whats the difference between a red car and a blue truck..

A blue truck is way better. It can tow the boat.
Red cars get more tickets. Ask the insurance company.

LakeTrash 09-15-2012 07:45 AM

Went boating with a good buddy, me in my cat and him in his deep V. An older couple who have done very little boating went with us. The wife rode in his boat for a while and them switched to mine. We were following him in whitecap water at about 50. He is doing the deep V thing with the tabs etc. rocking around and we are just riding.

She asked what is the difference between that boat and this one? I explained that is a deep V and this is a cat. She looked at me and said "why would anybody buy one of those?"

I did not have an answer.

LT


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