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No doubt.
Originally Posted by Aqua Banshee
(Post 3783093)
The Sonic is a great do all boat, but hope the Velocity has more speed potential with equal power.
That design is light yrs ahead of the Sonic as is the construction methods. Much better boat. I still think the 24' Sonic has a bigger cabin though. Tough for me to give up based on how often we still weekend on it. (headed back to the Keys in a month) If I had a shop though it would be fun to see what you could do w/that Velocity. Done right that thing would be an absolute blast w/a pair of new 300 XS's. Which Sonic is yours? I think I know who you are from S/F but not sure. |
Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
(Post 3783297)
You're going from a '60's design to a '80's design :lolhit: Thats 20 yrs dude. All kidding aside, IMO, a pad bottom vee is tough to beat and what I want. Always liked S.Stepps ad...., "no beaks, steps or hooks" :thankyouthankyou:
That design is light yrs ahead of the Sonic as is the construction methods. Much better boat. I still think the 24' Sonic has a bigger cabin though. Tough for me to give up based on how often we still weekend on it. (headed back to the Keys in a month) If I had a shop though it would be fun to see what you could do w/that Velocity. Done right that thing would be an absolute blast w/a pair of new 300 XS's. Which Sonic is yours? I think I know who you are from S/F but not sure. |
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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
(Post 3783297)
You're going from a '60's design to a '80's design :lolhit: Thats 20 yrs dude. All kidding aside, IMO, a pad bottom vee is tough to beat and what I want. Always liked S.Stepps ad...., "no beaks, steps or hooks" :thankyouthankyou:
That design is light yrs ahead of the Sonic as is the construction methods. Much better boat. I still think the 24' Sonic has a bigger cabin though. Tough for me to give up based on how often we still weekend on it. (headed back to the Keys in a month) If I had a shop though it would be fun to see what you could do w/that Velocity. Done right that thing would be an absolute blast w/a pair of new 300 XS's. Which Sonic is yours? I think I know who you are from S/F but not sure. For the Velocity it is in the perfect state for what I want to do, other than it is not a race deck. I am guessing close to the same weight as a Sonic. Going to get some stock efi 200s to start. Step bottom outboards are near non existent other than a few new ones. What else is out there? And I like the 80s:drink: |
Originally Posted by northernoffshore
(Post 3783329)
I think that's the same bottom used on the VR1 . The boat is great looking . Had my friend check it out and he gave it the thumbs up, but it was too far away from me to travel the 3000 + miles round trip for it. Should be real fast.
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That 28 PP was at our shop, really cool boat.
Heres a 26 Sutphen we restored for a customer, runs 80ish http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/la...7ba3b#h777ba3b |
Gorgeous!
Originally Posted by fast fun 2
(Post 3783361)
That 28 PP was at our shop, really cool boat.
Heres a 26 Sutphen we restored for a customer, runs 80ish http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/la...7ba3b#h777ba3b A 28' PP is maybe at the top of my list along w/a 29' Progression.One thing that slows me down on most though is limited access to the bow. My Sonic has side deck all the way from cockpit to bow and we are at anchor at least once every time we go out. Banshee, post some pix's on here of your Sonic. Being the 24' O/B historian (spent more on them than anybody on the planet!) I thought I'd seen them all but don't remember yours. Also, I'm not a fan of step bottom vee's for what I want. As far as the '80's..., I'm still stuck there. I think that bottom is the fastest Steve ever pinned and the same as the one that set many records way back when and the same as the one just rebuilt by the two young men on here. You'll love it. I'm jealous. |
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Nice pics! There's been plenty of 30 & 24 Superboats w/OB's. I don't know who owns this but I love this pic!
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Yep.
Originally Posted by Dave M
(Post 3783563)
Nice pics! There's been plenty of 30 & 24 Superboats w/OB's. I don't know who owns this but I love this pic!
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27 Kryptonite was running high 90s low 100s with 280s I believe
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I remember reading that.
Originally Posted by fast fun 2
(Post 3783706)
27 Kryptonite was running high 90s low 100s with 280s I believe
I understand that I am the 1/10 of 1% that actually use this style/size of boat for a weekender but I/we do and that changes a ton. I've said forever that if I could get funding and build an up to date version of what I have......, pad, 2nd set of full strakes, construction method etc, etc, I might be content for a while and think I could sell them. 70 w/a single DI 300 ?? Performance is big for me but after that afternoon blast, then it becomes cabin access,cabin size, and access to front deck. I went to the Miami show twice while my antique was in process and my brain was mush and the Mrs told me "lets just buy something new and be done". Closest thing I ever found was the twin O/B Velocity (I think called a 32' now) which I don't think had a sun lounge which is another deal breaker to me. I really liked the 30' Concept but no sun lounge (or storage under it) either and after what I went through to add one to my Sonic....., kinda like our patio when at anchor. It's a must have. |
good call
o/b sonic great thread!
I'll play for sure http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...s/DSC00872.jpg http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...s/DSC00877.jpg http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...s/DSC00879.jpg |
Thank...
Originally Posted by sonnycrockett
(Post 3783904)
o/b sonic great thread!
I'll play for sure Cool looking rig too! |
Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
(Post 3783758)
They loose me when they go from performance/pleasure to race. Still admire them but not for me. Becomes a cat. When you're done playing then what??
I understand that I am the 1/10 of 1% that actually use this style/size of boat for a weekender but I/we do and that changes a ton. I've said forever that if I could get funding and build an up to date version of what I have......, pad, 2nd set of full strakes, construction method etc, etc, I might be content for a while and think I could sell them. 70 w/a single DI 300 ?? Performance is big for me but after that afternoon blast, then it becomes cabin access,cabin size, and access to front deck. I went to the Miami show twice while my antique was in process and my brain was mush and the Mrs told me "lets just buy something new and be done". Closest thing I ever found was the twin O/B Velocity (I think called a 32' now) which I don't think had a sun lounge which is another deal breaker to me. I really liked the 30' Concept but no sun lounge (or storage under it) either and after what I went through to add one to my Sonic....., kinda like our patio when at anchor. It's a must have. |
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Found these in the Classic boat forum.
There used to be a 29' phantom (??) with twin 2.5' ob's called "Showtime" in the late 80's - I believe it was featured in a Motor Boat and Sailing Mag once. Anyone have pic's of it? |
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The biggest reasons for purchasing my Checkmate 2800SX was the size of the cabin for a 28' boat, the performance with twin 2.4/2.5 Mercury power and the freeboard of the boat. When Checkmate developed the 2800SX for racing, the cockpit was slid aft giving the boat a really long bow and the transom was cut down for outboard tilt clearance. Unlike many of the other 25-30' outboard performance boats that had "flat decks" and little headroom, the Checkmate's deck rises from the rubrail a good 18"+ giving the boat a nice size cabin and making the boat look alot bigger than it really is!! The fact that my boat was built with AME 4000 resin (lighter than the standard layup) and 24" of setback on Gil brackets, I should run pretty good with moderate power plants. I'm going to cover the race hatch over the splashwell with a sunpad for the wife...and I'll wind up with a great all around, fast, outboard powered, performance boat!
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Originally Posted by shaun1368
(Post 3784016)
Found these in the Classic boat forum.
There used to be a 29' phantom (??) with twin 2.5' ob's called "Showtime" in the late 80's - I believe it was featured in a Motor Boat and Sailing Mag once. Anyone have pic's of it? |
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In 93 Steve Stepp built this one for me to my specs. I rigged and dialed the boat in. 26' ThoroughBred- Velocity, Kevlar hull. I installed a Porta bracket, from Steve Porte in Daytona. 2 Evolution Marine prepared Johnson V-8s 400 hp each. Boat ran 106 and was evil on acceleration, and handled the ruff unbelievable. Sold the boat in 2005 went to up state Pa. I miss the boat at times. Bob
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Originally Posted by EXCESS ENERGY
(Post 3784173)
In 93 Steve Stepp built this one for me to my specs. I rigged and dialed the boat in. 26' ThoroughBred- Velocity, Kevlar hull. I installed a Porta bracket, from Steve Porte in Daytona. 2 Evolution Marine prepared Johnson V-8s 400 hp each. Boat ran 106 and was evil on acceleration, and handled the ruff unbelievable. Sold the boat in 2005 went to up state Pa. I miss the boat at times. Bob
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Wow!
Originally Posted by EXCESS ENERGY
(Post 3784173)
In 93 Steve Stepp built this one for me to my specs. I rigged and dialed the boat in. 26' ThoroughBred- Velocity, Kevlar hull. I installed a Porta bracket, from Steve Porte in Daytona. 2 Evolution Marine prepared Johnson V-8s 400 hp each. Boat ran 106 and was evil on acceleration, and handled the ruff unbelievable. Sold the boat in 2005 went to up state Pa. I miss the boat at times. Bob
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Good thread.
I'll find some pix. Member ctsutphen30? Has a 30' sutphen with twin merc 300. Real cool boat. The windshield isn't exactly my thing. It's similar to a formula windshield but bigger.... I also really liked member highlifes ( rip ) 27' mag sedan with twin merc 300 Id actually like to get my hands on a sedan for a quick overnighter but ill prob rig it sob on bracket. |
Originally Posted by Dave M
(Post 3783563)
Nice pics! There's been plenty of 30 & 24 Superboats w/OB's. I don't know who owns this but I love this pic!
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my old girl, Lordy I miss that boat
twin V8 'rudes, short shafts, open exhaust and a primal scream http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...amas/ME32S.jpg |
Good thread. I'll find some pix. Member ctsutphen30? Has a 30' sutphen with twin merc 300. Real cool boat. The windshield isn't exactly my thing. It's similar to a formula windshield but bigger.... Ron |
This is the 34' "superboat around the world" boat... It's up here in Canada... Really cool. And suprisingly fast for a HUGE boat with Twin OB's
http://i47.tinypic.com/1pdqh5.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/k4tkyo.jpg |
Yep.
Originally Posted by scarab63
(Post 3784583)
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I also really liked member highlifes ( rip ) 27' mag sedan with twin merc 300 Id actually like to get my hands on a sedan for a quick overnighter but ill prob rig it sob on bracket. Awesome history guys. Lovin it. Keep it coming. Reminding me of the feeling as a teenager waiting on my Powerboat mag. to show up in the parents mail box a 100 yrs ago :whistle: |
Man those 34 Superboats are bad ass, same with the Midnight Express, didnt realize there were so many closet OB guys on OSO, we need our own forum. I can email a pic of my Concept if CC are allowed in this thread.
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You should...
Originally Posted by Pete280
(Post 3784700)
I can email a pic of my Concept if CC are allowed in this thread.
Anyhow, I have said forever, buy a CC. Same boat, same power, same performance and 3 times the space and way more useful for what we like to do. W/the current level of O/B technology, even the haters are second guessing their narrow mindedness :lolhit: I dare you ;) |
i'll have to grab pics but someone near me has what looks to be an 80s twin 200 merc that is appx 30-33ft. only markings on it are aero?
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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
(Post 3784954)
start a center console thread. My guess is it would be bigger than this one. I'm a huge CC fan. When most of the boats we all love have giant, gorgeous cabins that no one uses......, explain that one to me.
Anyhow, I have said forever, buy a CC. Same boat, same power, same performance and 3 times the space and way more useful for what we like to do. W/the current level of O/B technology, even the haters are second guessing their narrow mindedness :lolhit: I dare you ;) http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p.../PRA0703sm.jpg |
Originally Posted by CrownLPX
(Post 3784956)
i'll have to grab pics but someone near me has what looks to be an 80s twin 200 merc that is appx 30-33ft. only markings on it are aero?
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Originally Posted by BahamaLure
(Post 3784592)
my old girl, Lordy I miss that boat
twin V8 'rudes, short shafts, open exhaust and a primal scream http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...amas/ME32S.jpg |
I have a friend of mine that has a 32 Midnight with twin Verados 300 and runs 73....I would guess the one above 78-81 ?
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When I was....
Originally Posted by catastrophe
(Post 3784963)
Tons of room to walk around and include lots of friends for a day of boating
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p.../PRA0703sm.jpg If I had the jing for a Fla. (or Lake Erie) "day boat" it would be a mid 30's center console. Some of the stuff I used to see being built down in Miami was incredible. In my mind they just do everything really, really well. I remember one of them telling me they were working on a mid 40's boat for same. I always thought that was the perfect way for you/friends/family to get to your vacation home in the Bahama's on the weekend. |
there's one on...
Originally Posted by Premier Perf
(Post 3784983)
I have a friend of mine that has a 32 Midnight with twin Verados 300 and runs 73
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32 Midnight Express
Originally Posted by turbo rr
(Post 3784982)
I like this....what did it run?
What it did do though was produce an easy 55mph cruise at 4800rpm with 8 people and full fuel. It was also very good in the rough stuff for a 32. I did lots of engine mods, ran them high on the bracket and used Bravo 4 blade 24's, very nice reliable set up. It was pre-GPS so I never really knew what it did wide open, I go the cruise speed from time over a known 28 mile run. Making the v8's run without breaking was one of my finest achievements! At the beach- http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...ME32sbeach.jpg |
Awesome Picture!
Originally Posted by BahamaLure
(Post 3785164)
Making the v8's run without breaking was one of my finest achievements! ]
One of the most under appreciated, under developed O/B's ever built. I kinda like this old ad. Note HP rating,operating range, carburetion, weight (comparable w/current 6's) and fuel quality spec. Remember, this was mid '80's and pre computers etc, etc. All from 3.5 liters too when most of the current V-6 4 strokes are at 4.5 after 30 yrs of development! Pretty impressive stuff and an example of what was there if you knew where to look or where to go to for help. http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...offshoread.jpg |
We went through about 20 of them in 5 years! Tough learning curve that was, one day Carl Sandstrom from OMC came to see my boat and liked what I had done with the engines. I basically took all the vro's and stuff off, over jetted them and used an external fuel pump. The engine blocks looked naked without all that stuff on them but ran sweet.
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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
(Post 3785176)
Knowing quite a bit about the 8's myself, that is a hilarious (though painful and expensive) statement.
One of the most under appreciated, under developed O/B's ever built. I kinda like this old ad. Note HP rating,operating range, carburetion, weight (comparable w/current 6's) and fuel quality spec. Remember, this was mid '80's and pre computers etc, etc. All from 3.5 liters too when most of the current V-6 4 strokes are at 4.5 after 30 yrs of development! Pretty impressive stuff and an example of what was there if you knew where to look or where to go to for help. http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...offshoread.jpg |
Yep.
Originally Posted by BahamaLure
(Post 3785810)
We went through about 20 of them in 5 years! Tough learning curve that was, one day Carl Sandstrom from OMC came to see my boat and liked what I had done with the engines. I basically took all the vro's and stuff off, over jetted them and used an external fuel pump. The engine blocks looked naked without all that stuff on them but ran sweet.
Here is my last V-6 I went Gonzo with. http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...s/DSCF1756.jpg http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...ixs/001-12.jpg http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...pixs/002-9.jpg |
The "twin pinion fully shiftable gearcase" is the wholly grain of lowers for OMC V8's. Most of them ended up in Middle East.
Rick from OMC engineering department wanted my powerheads because to date I have not had a powerhead failure (knock on wood). I still use the VRO pumps. I do premix because of race use. |
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