Cummins 6BTA 5.9 Performance Build
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The H&S truck is around 6500 the black Ford lightning is 4500 with weight added to it.
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Normally I'd tell this guy to get lost and that 12V's make plenty of reliable power and mechanical is the way to go etc etc... 
but in this case he's right. A 12v is great for a truck IMHO, but a 24v common rail with electronic injection and all those goodies, makes for a much nicer package in a sport boat. Unless you don't mind the girls on the swim pad picking up a blackish tan during the day and then not coming back, in which case, smokey big single turbo 12v's are the ticket

but in this case he's right. A 12v is great for a truck IMHO, but a 24v common rail with electronic injection and all those goodies, makes for a much nicer package in a sport boat. Unless you don't mind the girls on the swim pad picking up a blackish tan during the day and then not coming back, in which case, smokey big single turbo 12v's are the ticket

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No offense but I disagree on your "tuning" statement. With the advances in tuning you could get it perfect. However it would cost a good amount of money, basically have to live tune it...The key to making this really work would be air lots and lots of air. I had triples on my Cummins back a few years ago that flowed 2400CFM, my freinds built another triple setup for H&S race truck (below) that flow almost 4000CFM.
Watch this video especially the in cab views you can see the smoke or lack of it out the right fender. Little at the start but not bad for 1200HP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beBIbtnVRoQ
Watch this video especially the in cab views you can see the smoke or lack of it out the right fender. Little at the start but not bad for 1200HP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beBIbtnVRoQ
As for your video, nice looks like great running truck, but it proves nothing - different engine, different application, different loading, a truck has little to no load coming off the line compared to a boat with submerged props.
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JD - that was point, the $'s to tune an old mechanical engine and the hardware that needs to be built into air & fuel management you are better of with a 24V common rail.
As for your video, nice looks like great running truck, but it proves nothing - different engine, different application, different loading, a truck has little to no load coming off the line compared to a boat with submerged props.
As for your video, nice looks like great running truck, but it proves nothing - different engine, different application, different loading, a truck has little to no load coming off the line compared to a boat with submerged props.
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I agree with you on 12 valve stuff. The video only proves big HP can be made with little smoke. Especially if you were not making constant adjustments to the tuning in a race...As far a load goes I don't really think being under instant load is a bad thing, a good set up that spools instantly could very easily be a good thing under instant load. The "load" will only make the turbo or turbo's come up quicker assuming we ar enot dealing with a worthless laggy setup.
Do you know if on these newer 6.7's does the piston still come up above the deck at TDC, I would have hoped they changed that.
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JD that is why sequential turbos in boats have worked so well and not compound like the triples you mention - we're on the same path all good stuff!
Do you know if on these newer 6.7's does the piston still come up above the deck at TDC, I would have hoped they changed that.
Do you know if on these newer 6.7's does the piston still come up above the deck at TDC, I would have hoped they changed that.
The bigger issue was the EGT's (i.e the fire out of the stack...you can see a gate under the truck blowing fire also). It would be a massive learning curve doing this in a boat obviously. Big tug of war between drivability, spool, back pressure, & EGT's. If it were me i would do triples but thats just me, the second stg we used was pretty small instant lit than blow 2 50mm gates open and bypass the energy to the primaries. After that i had one more 50mm gate at the end of the common pipe to control overall boost.
No idea about the 6.7 piston issue...
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