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altamate 03-17-2013 05:11 PM

725 Ilmor/Arneson vs 700NXT
 
Sorry all, if this is a stupid question and thread, or it has be answered or beaten to death elsewhere. If so, please refer me to that thread or article.

How much of a price difference is there between the Merc 700NXT package and the 725 Ilmor/Arneson 8-6 package in the new Chief 42 race boat? If I was spending the money I'd be really tempted by the increased speed and reliability. Is the biggest detraction to Arnesons the challenge with docking and the unfriendly props out past the swim platform?

If I was buying a new 35+ foot boat, maybe get one with a big swim platform and learn to dock a boat? What am I missing?

Lakeerieskater 03-17-2013 05:55 PM

There was a great article a couple years ago in powerboat,mbut the motors are within a couple grand, the asd7 is more comparable to the nxt than the asd 8-6, the 700 nxt is about same price as 725 asd7, the asd 8-6 would be much more $.

the deep 03-17-2013 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Lakeerieskater (Post 3887291)
There was a great article a couple years ago in powerboat,mbut the motors are within a couple grand, the asd7 is more comparable to the nxt than the asd 8-6, the 700 nxt is about same price as 725 asd7, the asd 8-6 would be much more $.

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redbud35 03-17-2013 06:10 PM

Darr?

Rik 03-17-2013 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by altamate (Post 3887262)
Sorry all, if this is a stupid question and thread, or it has be answered or beaten to death elsewhere. If so, please refer me to that thread or article.

How much of a price difference is there between the Merc 700NXT package and the 725 Ilmor/Arneson 8-6 package in the new Chief 42 race boat? If I was spending the money I'd be really tempted by the increased speed and reliability. Is the biggest detraction to Arnesons the challenge with docking and the unfriendly props out past the swim platform?

If I was buying a new 35+ foot boat, maybe get one with a big swim platform and learn to dock a boat? What am I missing?

Sorry but I honestly do not know the package price (OEM) of either option. I believe, don't hold me to it, that the 700 NXT, not he 700/#6 package cost the OEM around 60K a side.

As for the detraction, those are nothing more than b.s. and that's exactly what Bobby Saccenti was saying as everyone was telling him the same wives' tale before he ran the boat. He was told the boat would not dock, the boat would not be able to get on plane, the boat would not track, the boat would not steer.

Bobby called me up and said he was told all this b.s. and he was getting nervous as all these "EXPERTS" were telling him "how it was going to be" and after he ran the boat himself he came to the conclusion that none of them knew what he **** they were talking about. To quote Bobby, "what the **** do all these know it all's know anyways. The boat in on plane in virtually it's own length, it tracks straight and it steer's like its on rails and the speed speaks for itself".

Swim platform, honestly the standard version of the ASD8-6 drive is the same length as a #6. This boat has the longer thrust tube option but it's not a mile longer. We do have the option of a propeller guard.

As for performance, the boat you referenced is over 10 mph faster than same boat with the Merc 700/NXT package so results do mean something.

offshorexcursion 03-18-2013 12:22 AM

The 725 Ilmor can also be paired with the Ilmor Indy drive. Nice drive and seems to run about the same speed as a Merc 700/NXT. Looks like the Arneson outperforms in all categories.

Jupiter Sunsation 03-18-2013 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by redbud35 (Post 3887301)
Darr?

Ummmmm......yeah.

1. Screen name with Skater in it
2. Instant expertise in one post
3. Soon to say "banned"

blume 03-18-2013 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 3887307)
Sorry but I honestly do not know the package price (OEM) of either option. I believe, don't hold me to it, that the 700 NXT, not he 700/#6 package cost the OEM around 60K a side.

As for the detraction, those are nothing more than b.s. and that's exactly what Bobby Saccenti was saying as everyone was telling him the same wives' tale before he ran the boat. He was told the boat would not dock, the boat would not be able to get on plane, the boat would not track, the boat would not steer.

Bobby called me up and said he was told all this b.s. and he was getting nervous as all these "EXPERTS" were telling him "how it was going to be" and after he ran the boat himself he came to the conclusion that none of them knew what he **** they were talking about. To quote Bobby, "what the **** do all these know it all's know anyways. The boat in on plane in virtually it's own length, it tracks straight and it steer's like its on rails and the speed speaks for itself".

Swim platform, honestly the standard version of the ASD8-6 drive is the same length as a #6. This boat has the longer thrust tube option but it's not a mile longer. We do have the option of a propeller guard.

As for performance, the boat you referenced is over 10 mph faster than same boat with the Merc 700/NXT package so results do mean something.

The better choice I think would be the ADS #7 and the Mercury 700SCI.

ICDEDPPL 03-18-2013 09:24 AM

Rik, this drive guard you speak of , thats something permanent or removable?
I have #4s on extension boxes and the swim platform would be one ugly long piece if it was long enough to extend beyond the cleavers. So its not just a Arneson problem. No ladder out back for me and if someone slips off the back .. oh man I don`t even wanna think about it. I gotta figure something out, my kids are 6 and 9.



EDIT: Nevermind found it on your site.. thats really nice wish I had that option

http://www.arneson-industries.com/pr...ard[1].jpg

redbud35 03-18-2013 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3887535)
Ummmmm......yeah.

1. Screen name with Skater in it
2. Instant expertise in one post
3. Soon to say "banned"

I'm getting good at spotting him too!


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