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articfriends 05-06-2013 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Rambocj7 (Post 3920321)
Excuse me?! You know nothing about me or what Im capable of doing. I dont need fancy snap-on tools to build or repair a boat: since when is that a pre-requisite?

I was merely posting an experience I had with a boat that sank. I didnt think I would get flamed for all the surroundings. Am surprised you didnt comment on the camera angle too, obviously it wasnt taken with a fancy Nikkon on a tripod.

Its a**holes like you that diminish the usefullness of forums. Would love to see you broken down on the water and drive right by you with boat full of chinese tools...

Drive right by him on the trail with your Cat after he blows his last belt too!!!:evilb:

Scooter 05-06-2013 09:04 PM

Man have to agree, what is up with the forums lately? The bashing doesn't ever stop, it's like people love to start **** just for something to do. Hard to JUDGE anyone without meeting them first!:bsflag:

Flyin-Bryan 05-07-2013 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Rambocj7 (Post 3920321)
Excuse me?! You know nothing about me or what Im capable of doing. I dont need fancy snap-on tools to build or repair a boat: since when is that a pre-requisite?

I was merely posting an experience I had with a boat that sank. I didnt think I would get flamed for all the surroundings. Am surprised you didnt comment on the camera angle too, obviously it wasnt taken with a fancy Nikkon on a tripod.

Its a**holes like you that diminish the usefullness of forums. Would love to see you broken down on the water and drive right by you with boat full of chinese tools...

Excuse Me,I was joking,snap on tools aren't "Fancy" but the cheap tools can round off the soft stainless hardware in a boat and cause more trouble then their worth,and in my "discussion"in the discussion forum was that usually boat rot is due to neglect,sorry if I upset You,and just to help You I would get the trim lines Your standing on out of the way and put a guard on the grinding wheel that Your cutting wood with,again I'm sorry I hurt anyone's feelings,good luck on Your project.P.S. hoping I break down?really? ;) Now to respond back like You did.(I was merely posting My experience with Chinese tools and its a**holes like You that buy overseas crap and put American Companies in jeopardy to save a few bucks,Sorry,just stating what I saw in the pictures You posted in a public forum,didn't think I would get flamed.)

Biggus 05-07-2013 07:56 AM

In recent years, this site has turned into a giant drama fest and has long lost credibility in the marine industry.

Sadly most of the menbers who posted revelant information have either stopped posting or moved on altogether. There were once very brilliant minds here to learn from.

It makes me sick that the majority of posts are worthless drama filled drivel...

Kurt

phragle 05-07-2013 08:34 AM

<=== Far from brilliant mind, that's why I play with boats and drink rum.

TeamSaris 05-07-2013 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 3920608)
In recent years, this site has turned into a giant drama fest and has long lost credibility in the marine industry.

Sadly most of the menbers who posted revelant information have either stopped posting or moved on altogether. There were once very brilliant minds here to learn from.

It makes me sick that the majority of posts are worthless drama filled drivel...

Kurt

Your 100% right. Especially the credibility part. If your getting your facts and figures from OSO these days, your marina might laugh at you. Its turned into "I heard it on the internet from some guy ive never met" instead of "A FRIEND of mine on OSO who has REAL experience with this pointed me in the right direction"

smokin' gun 05-07-2013 08:59 AM

bunch of haters on here lately . I don't even bother to post
Anymore . Seems you have to watch what you say word for
Word or you get hammered .

96scarab 05-07-2013 09:43 AM

You need Sunkin to come back..

Mastercraft240 05-07-2013 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by smokin' gun (Post 3920655)
bunch of haters on here lately . I don't even bother to post
Anymore . Seems you have to watch what you say word for
Word or you get hammered .

Yep... a-holes like flyin-bryan really ruin this place. Rambocj7, make a thread in the GD im sure there are tons of people (myself included) that would love to follow your project with your "chinese" tools!:flag::Score-101010:

seafordguy 05-07-2013 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by brian41 (Post 3919246)
Salt water boats suck to work on wether they sank or not. The stain"less" even needs replacing to make then nice. Over the past 3 years my shop has seen more and more slat water boats coming north and the headaches they bring with them. We had one from NY 2 years ago that we had to use a sawzall to remove the engine from its mounts. Giving any kind of estimate on tear down time can leave you short on $$$$ and plan on restoring or replacing EVERTHING thats no plastic or rubber.

This mount was from a boat "only used in brackish water"

Mine doesn't suck to work on. The Mount you show is a result of negligence and poor maintenance, not just salt water.

I can assure you none of my mounts look like that and frankly if you go to any of the poker runs around here nothing in ANYONE's bilge looks like that.

There are people who take care of their boats and people who neglect them regardless of salt or fresh.

302Sport 05-07-2013 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 3920686)
Mine doesn't suck to work on. The Mount you show is a result of negligence and poor maintenance, not just salt water.

I can assure you none of my mounts look like that and frankly if you go to any of the poker runs around here nothing in ANYONE's bilge looks like that.

There are people who take care of their boats and people who neglect them regardless of salt or fresh.

I agree, the lake guys are so afraid of salt water it's almost laughable. It's an OFFSHORE boat, they are meant to be run in the ocean. It would be like if I was buying a four wheeler and complained when it had been used in the woods.....

Flyin-Bryan 05-07-2013 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Mastercraft240 (Post 3920683)
Yep... a-holes like flyin-bryan really ruin this place. Rambocj7, make a thread in the GD im sure there are tons of people (myself included) that would love to follow your project with your "chinese" tools!:flag::Score-101010:

O.k.,I will say this one more time for the Guys like You that are only here to start drama and start personal attacks,it was a joke,I said it in good fun hence the :lolhit:,and then the Drama Nazi's showed up to make it more then it is,are You that slow You can't You see a little friendly ribbing?now come back read this and think about it,reply with some more name calling and add more Drama.Again,it was a joke.

POWERPLAY J 05-07-2013 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3920693)
I agree, the lake guys are so afraid of salt water it's almost laughable. It's an OFFSHORE boat, they are meant to be run in the ocean. It would be like if I was buying a four wheeler and complained when it had been used in the woods.....

Your funny. I wouldn't have any issues running in the ocean if I lived near one. But to be honest I would lose interest real fast and my boating habits would change. There is no fun in flushing and washing down every time you get back. F that! My time is more important to me.
I use my sisters o/b console when in Naples. Pretty simple to keep clean. The PP would be broomed and a console would replace it.

302Sport 05-07-2013 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3920752)
Your funny. I wouldn't have any issues running in the ocean if I lived near one. But to be honest I would lose interest real fast and my boating habits would change. There is no fun in flushing and washing down every time you get back. F that! My time is more important to me.
I use my sisters o/b console when in Naples. Pretty simple to keep clean. The PP would be broomed and a console would replace it.

It's funny that you say that because I keep telling myself at the end of every summer that the next boat I get will be a center console that gets hosed out when I'm done with it. But, there's something about the roar of a big block I can't get away from...

POWERPLAY J 05-07-2013 12:06 PM

Totally agree with your last sentence Adam. But I just don't have the motivation I did ten years ago. Call it lazy but I am not cut out for the salt life. :lolhit:

Marginmn 05-07-2013 12:50 PM

Clean up in salt water is more work than fresh but I don't think it takes any more time to flush and wipe down my boat after a run in the Gulf than it does to shovel my driveway up north after 2 inches of snow. :)

It took me years to come to grips with putting a perfectly good boat in saltwater but after finally buying a canal home in SW Florida my only regret is that I waited so long.

Sunny32SSR 05-07-2013 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 3920814)
Clean up in salt water is more work than fresh but I don't think it takes any more time to flush and wipe down my boat after a run in the Gulf than it does to shovel my driveway up north after 2 inches of snow. :)

It took me years to come to grips with putting a perfectly good boat in saltwater but after finally buying a canal home in SW Florida my only regret is that I waited so long.

Who shovels 2" of snow? I'm tired of the rain... Why can't the 80 degree summer weather just come and stay

Mastercraft240 05-08-2013 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Mastercraft240 (Post 3920683)
Yep... a-holes like flyin-bryan really ruin this place. Rambocj7, make a thread in the GD im sure there are tons of people (myself included) that would love to follow your project with your "chinese" tools!:flag::Score-101010:

My apologies, I didn't see this the original post was a joke. My fault for not reading through. Now I look like the dumbass. Again, my apology Flyin-Bryn.

Flyin-Bryan 05-08-2013 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Mastercraft240 (Post 3921356)
My apologies, I didn't see this the original post was a joke. My fault for not reading through. Now I look like the dumbass. Again, my apology Flyin-Bryn.

No problem,I know it's hard to read some posts clearly if You just blow through them.

Reckless32 05-08-2013 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 3920608)
In recent years, this site has turned into a giant drama fest and has long lost credibility in the marine industry.

It makes me sick that the majority of posts are worthless drama filled drivel...Kurt

That's exactly what everyone I know sez about OSO who all have been heavy posters since it's inception. Seems since Facebook and Twitter has taken off folks think every statement has to be in the form of sarcasm, insults or uneducated guessing.

With reference to fresh vs salt water, the biggest destroyer on the "engine compartment" area or the guts, is MOISTURE. A tablespoon of water in the bilge over a long period of time creates humidity. Humidity is the nemesis of anything metal. Motor mounts, oil pans, starters, drive/tab pumps etc. etc. will corrode from uncontrolled MOISTURE.

So unless your boat is being swamped by huge waves, or your passengers are sunbathing on your motors after climbbing back in the boat soaking wet from the ocean waters, what type of water you operate in only mildly makes a difference.....it's the MOISTURE fellas. Of course the caveat is how well the owner babies his toys. If you're lazy or don;t give a crap, fresh water left unchecked will rust a boat to hell too.

Moral of the story....keep your bilges dry, and control the humidity when it's covered up regardless if it's under a roof or not....Prost!

:daz:

kreed 05-08-2013 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 3920608)
In recent years, this site has turned into a giant drama fest and has long lost credibility in the marine industry.

Sadly most of the menbers who posted revelant information have either stopped posting or moved on altogether. There were once very brilliant minds here to learn from.

It makes me sick that the majority of posts are worthless drama filled drivel...

Kurt


I agree Kurt, thats why I have saved a handful of past screen names in case of an emergency question, I can PM them. 99% of the good, knowledgable old timers will PM you back an answer.....they just dont post in the sh!t slinging threads anymore and its too bad.

SkaterMike82 05-08-2013 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 3920608)
In recent years, this site has turned into a giant drama fest and has long lost credibility in the marine industry.

Sadly most of the menbers who posted revelant information have either stopped posting or moved on altogether. There were once very brilliant minds here to learn from.

It makes me sick that the majority of posts are worthless drama filled drivel...

Kurt

So very true Kurt....That's one of the reasons i barely post anymore. I have been a member since 02-03. The ORIGINAL Blue Martini crew. The heart of OSO has been lost. I can barely count with my own two hands people that still post here from the original OSO group.....

On Time 05-08-2013 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by IROCDave (Post 3920216)
Wow, your trying to diminish a posters credibility about the damage done by sinking by questioning his tools? Do you really think anyones buying it? I pack that same Crescent tool kit in my boat, bought it at Costco. Also pack it in the travel trailer. A SnapOn tool box doesnt fit in the engine compartment of many boats and high end tools rust just like cheap crapsmen or chineese built Crescent.

When you sold your Checkmate did you discose the fact that it had sunk before?

Crescent brand pliers and wrenches myself. Stanley rubber handle screwdrivers. Craftsman sockets. Stays in the dockbox. Metal sprayed with Boeshield after each use, excess wiped off, put up and 5 years in brackish environment have a little surface rust but no pitting on anything.

On Time 05-08-2013 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Reckless32 (Post 3921462)
That's exactly what everyone I know sez about OSO who all have been heavy posters since it's inception. Seems since Facebook and Twitter has taken off folks think every statement has to be in the form of sarcasm, insults or uneducated guessing.

With reference to fresh vs salt water, the biggest destroyer on the "engine compartment" area or the guts, is MOISTURE. A tablespoon of water in the bilge over a long period of time creates humidity. Humidity is the nemesis of anything metal. Motor mounts, oil pans, starters, drive/tab pumps etc. etc. will corrode from uncontrolled MOISTURE.

So unless your boat is being swamped by huge waves, or your passengers are sunbathing on your motors after climbbing back in the boat soaking wet from the ocean waters, what type of water you operate in only mildly makes a difference.....it's the MOISTURE fellas. Of course the caveat is how well the owner babies his toys. If you're lazy or don;t give a crap, fresh water left unchecked will rust a boat to hell too.

Moral of the story....keep your bilges dry, and control the humidity when it's covered up regardless if it's under a roof or not....Prost!

:daz:

Spot on. Unless you don't mind the extra effort, and just want to go boating, Outboards for saltwater, Inboards for fresh. We own different boats for that reason. My freshwater Fountain goes in the shed, put in dehumidifier, go home. The outboard boat hangs above brackish water 100%. Both have miniscule maintenace costs. And almost no rust.

Joe 05-08-2013 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Premier Perf (Post 3921614)
So very true Kurt....That's one of the reasons i barely post anymore. I have been a member since 02-03. The ORIGINAL Blue Martini crew. The heart of OSO has been lost. I can barely count with my own two hands people that still post here from the original OSO group.....

i heard we... er, i mean, "they" are all talking somewhere else!

johnnyboatman 05-08-2013 07:44 PM

clothes, or tools really aren't a big concern, its the quality of the work the matters the most. as for this particular boat 150 sounds steap, theyre several boats with #6s and big power that can be bought for less than that, im def not knocking that boat sunk or not its beautiful.

Pokher Ace 05-08-2013 09:21 PM

If I didnt own a Fountain all my tools would rust :lolhit:

f_inscreenname 05-08-2013 10:35 PM

As for the boat in question. When someone would inquire a simple statement of, "it sunk (but did it really? I thought this one lost the rear corner) but had a 80 grand refit to fix it", end of story. I wouldn't put it in a Craig's list ad or you would never get a phone call.
Come on, there is a bunch of TV shows about bone yard cars being restored and sold/given away as new. Why not a boat? If you can flood a homes basement and not even have a musty smell when Servpro leaves, why not a boat?
If they would have put the "sunk boat" up for sale for minus the rebuild cost the Ins Co put into it ... 150 - 85 = 65 grand would it had been worth it? Come on guys the trailer is worth 15+ grand alone.
I'm telling you if I was in that price range (way to much money for me) it would have been a simple fix. Compared to some of the boats I rebuild a sunk boat would be a much better start then what I find in the woods or behind marinas and homes.

As for cheap tools, have a set in all the boats for emergency repairs. On the water simple repairs are only thing that going to happen anyway. Good tools stay in the garage.

smokin' gun 05-09-2013 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by f_inscreenname (Post 3921952)
As for the boat in question. When someone would inquire a simple statement of, "it sunk (but did it really? I thought this one lost the rear corner) but had a 80 grand refit to fix it", end of story. I wouldn't put it in a Craig's list ad or you would never get a phone call.
Come on, there is a bunch of TV shows about bone yard cars being restored and sold/given away as new. Why not a boat? If you can flood a homes basement and not even have a musty smell when Servpro leaves, why not a boat?
If they would have put the "sunk boat" up for sale for minus the rebuild cost the Ins Co put into it ... 150 - 85 = 65 grand would it had been worth it? Come on guys the trailer is worth 15+ grand alone.
I'm telling you if I was in that price range (way to much money for me) it would have been a simple fix. Compared to some of the boats I rebuild a sunk boat would be a much better start then what I find in the woods or behind marinas and homes.

As for cheap tools, have a set in all the boats for emergency repairs. On the water simple repairs are only thing that going to happen anyway. Good tools stay in the garage.

i agree 100 % with this poster .ive bought and sold many boats bikes cars that got wet from hurricane sandy myself and ive resold them all . every bike i bought all harleys of course 9 so far all ran with no issues at all. now as far as advertisement its all in the way its done and price .tell it was a storm sandy victom after all the titles say salvage .when i buy them i dont have any idea where its been what has happened ect .if its priced right it will sell .so why is everybody hammering this guy on the boat why doesnt 1 person call and ask see if the guy is open about it .but no we sit here and hammer the guy !! why i ask are anyone of us even in the market for it .no !!just more oso drama ..gauranteed if he posted the boat sank he would get no calls .however if he gets the chance to explain what happened and what has been done extensivly it may change things and if not just walk away .after all no one is holding a gun to your head to buy it .now im sure im gonna get plenty hammered from the flamers here for this post so go ahead flame away .

Quinlan 05-09-2013 05:35 AM

OK ^^^^ I will start-- why is your Handle Smokin Gun and a Formula in Pic

Just Sayn :)

smokin' gun 05-09-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 3922033)
OK ^^^^ I will start-- why is your Handle Smokin Gun and a Formula in Pic

Just Sayn :)

funny you ask kreed on here has the previous gun .the formula is for sale and movin into another gun hopefully

kreed 05-09-2013 06:43 AM

I want his SMOKIN GUN handle!...But Im sure Gordon will have another GUN soon anyway....except with steps in it this time.


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