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I'm thinking the sustained 5000-6000 RPM that street cars don't see is part of the problem.
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I see.
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Originally Posted by cp5899
(Post 3928693)
Why wouldn't it work? Tons of vipers running out there with sc's and turbo setup. Granted many have forged internals added (depending on year), but I don't know much about what ilmor does to the motors. From all my research the vipers are pretty tough and could handle more then 700 hp. Maybe not in a marine app? I don't know.
plates and gaskets increase the likelihood of failures especially at higher compression ratios which is playing with danger for adding a super charger, head work for compression is a skilled procedure, crank, rods, and pistons means tearing into the bottom end and if you go that route you are basically rebuilding your engine and you might as well "go for it" and then you will be supercharging a former Ilmor engine |
Originally Posted by TexasVines
(Post 3928782)
in the article posted by Matt T. is states the Ilmors are at 10.3:1 compression already so to take any type of additional boost over just a very nominal amount they would need to have compression lowered on them which varies in the difficulty to accomplish....shorter crank stroke, shorter rods, different pistons or different heads, thicker head gaskets or a decompression plate....all of those come with varying cost or issues
plates and gaskets increase the likelihood of failures especially at higher compression ratios which is playing with danger for adding a super charger, head work for compression is a skilled procedure, crank, rods, and pistons means tearing into the bottom end and if you go that route you are basically rebuilding your engine and you might as well "go for it" and then you will be supercharging a former Ilmor engine when mine were apart i found a great engine but one that seemed to be designed to handle just over 700hp and thats it. I already upgraded my rods and would still have to do pistons and valve train. So i feel I could easily add just about 4 or 5 lbs of boost to wake the motors up a bit. i think my boat would be perfect at about 800hp per side. |
SC'ing the Ilmor V10 in a stock form would be unwise. Cars don't run steady state at the higher cylinder pressure levels and constant stress so they get away with far more. The stock engine internal components have trouble living under heavy stress with extra pressure. If one were to build there motor with forged rods, forged pistons then it would be possible if somebody built a kit but that's tough with the closed cooling, etc. The compression is really not a worry with 5-6psi of intercooled boost and 91 octane, slightly reduced spark curve.
SC'ing the LS based engines is a different story though..... |
Maybe it has something to do with the stability of the Ali block under boost /high cilinder pressures making the crank flexing the cilinder block ?
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Originally Posted by stirling
(Post 3928918)
Maybe it has something to do with the stability of the Ali block under boost /high cilinder pressures making the crank flexing the cilinder block ?
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Chris dont do it they run great
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We have played around quite a bit..........
Good post Dustin and Neil. |
Cant leave well enough alone, can we!?!?
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