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sommerfliesby 05-28-2013 03:05 PM

Wow! Look how touchy people are! Lol.

Joe...my in-laws saw the Mild Thunder when they were looking at townhouses in Lemont this weekend! Hope to see you on the water soon!

Where can I get my rig weighed?

Sydwayz 05-28-2013 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 3932658)
Where can I get my rig weighed?

Truck stop or a dump/recycle facility.

TRL505 05-28-2013 03:29 PM

Better not take an AT to a dump...they may want to keep it.......:evilb:

ICDEDPPL 05-28-2013 03:50 PM

Before I bought the X I test drove and looked at a Tundra and found it to be quite a truck.Interior was awesome .. Brakes were HUGE! I just remember being impressed with the hardware it had.

MILD THUNDER 05-28-2013 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 3932658)
Wow! Look how touchy people are! Lol.

Joe...my in-laws saw the Mild Thunder when they were looking at townhouses in Lemont this weekend! Hope to see you on the water soon!

Where can I get my rig weighed?

I did see a couple cruising by very slowly, and seemed awfully nosey....They shoulda stopped, I could have gave them a tour of the house and subdivision.

As for weighing your rig mike, one of those truck stops off 80 and grant st has a cat scale I think . 10 bucks

MILD THUNDER 05-28-2013 04:10 PM

Wasn't trying to pick on the Tundra's 4buz . My buddy has one and its a nice unit. I was not impressed with its suspension though. One time we hooked my beaker to it to move it around the warehouse. I was like WTF, is this thing gonna stop squatting when lowering it onto the hitch.

Then one time when I pulled my engines for rebuild time, we set one engine in his bed, one in my old dually. Fully rigged with trans and supercharger, etc. We set the engine in his truck with the forklift, again, squatted down a bunch, headlights pointing to the tree tops. Other engine we set in my dually, dropped an inch maybe. Got them back to the house, and had to unload with a cherry picker. While lifting the engine with the picker, the darn tundra bed kept going up, up, up, until we ran out of boom. We had to get a couple guys in the bed and bounce up and down to get the engine off it.

IDK if it was just his model, its a 07 or 08, I forget. But with that being said, I never pulled a trailer with it. Power wise the engine is super.

Factory tow ratings are a pile of $hit. They have become so inflated, its ridiculous. I remember when a F350 or K3500 one ton dually, with big brakes, big frames, big gas or diesels, huge springs, beefy tranny's, heavy duty rear ends, were rated for 10k lb trailer weight max. All of a sudden, the family grocery getters with independent rear suspensions, small engines, small rear ends, tiny axles, can now tow 8, 9, 10k +lb trailers according to their advertisements. So, I say, one must filter through the paper BS, and use common sense on what makes a safe tow vehicle.

30ftpanther 05-28-2013 04:28 PM

What about a 1984 S-10 blazer towing a 16' car trailer (empty) chained to a 40' motor home on the highway with one blown out front tire, yea on the rim. Well here it is. The motor home wasn't going to ride on the trailer so what do you do? That's right hook the chain to the trailer then to frame rail on the RV easy. About 6 miles of travail before reaching the highway front caliper is locking up brake pads are on fire, the engine cover is off you can see the rotor & fire. Approaching another red light no need to apply brakes on RV caliper is tight as dick hat band and on fire. Almost stopped and caliper releases RV runs over chain and wraps around tire, the brake is applied to late RV hits trailer. Light turns green S-10 takes off, it's hard to steer the RV with a chain wrapped around the outer tie rod and front axle and the caliper stuck again.Then the tire, it can't take the heat anymore it explodes. The S-10 never lets out of it. Going down a hill the caliper releases. Apply brakes, pedal hits the floor. Brake hose ruptured or burnt? Three miles from destination no tire, no brakes and tie rod chained off to axle(hard to steer). What would you ladies do in this situation? That's what I thought. Not them they took it all the way. The 1984 S-10 blazer did not like it but it did it.

4bus 05-28-2013 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3932679)
Wasn't trying to pick on the Tundra's 4buz . My buddy has one and its a nice unit. I was not impressed with its suspension though. One time we hooked my beaker to it to move it around the warehouse. I was like WTF, is this thing gonna stop squatting when lowering it onto the hitch.

Then one time when I pulled my engines for rebuild time, we set one engine in his bed, one in my old dually. Fully rigged with trans and supercharger, etc. We set the engine in his truck with the forklift, again, squatted down a bunch, headlights pointing to the tree tops. Other engine we set in my dually, dropped an inch maybe. Got them back to the house, and had to unload with a cherry picker. While lifting the engine with the picker, the darn tundra bed kept going up, up, up, until we ran out of boom. We had to get a couple guys in the bed and bounce up and down to get the engine off it.

IDK if it was just his model, its a 07 or 08, I forget. But with that being said, I never pulled a trailer with it. Power wise the engine is super.

Factory tow ratings are a pile of $hit. They have become so inflated, its ridiculous. I remember when a F350 or K3500 one ton dually, with big brakes, big frames, big gas or diesels, huge springs, beefy tranny's, heavy duty rear ends, were rated for 10k lb trailer weight max. All of a sudden, the family grocery getters with independent rear suspensions, small engines, small rear ends, tiny axles, can now tow 8, 9, 10k +lb trailers according to their advertisements. So, I say, one must filter through the paper BS, and use common sense on what makes a safe tow vehicle.

I had both my engines in the back of mine, I needed 90 lbs in the air bags that day :D for some reason I don't get any squat with the boat hooked up , and I have good tounge weight, but my trailer is longer than average.
I would never say payload capacity could match a DRW.

I don't understand the tow ratings either. My dad always had trucks around the business when I was growing up. The 1/2 tons rode like a truck, and the 3/4 tons would knock your filling out over a bump. Yet today's trucks are rated higher?

I am going to weigh my boat this year, I am very curious. And I understand your point. We would all be surprised when we weigh our trailers.

TRL505 05-28-2013 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by 30ftpanther (Post 3932693)
What about a 1984 S-10 blazer towing a 16' car trailer (empty) chained to a 40' motor home on the highway with one blown out front tire, yea on the rim. Well here it is. The motor home wasn't going to ride on the trailer so what do you do? That's right hook the chain to the trailer then to frame rail on the RV easy. About 6 miles of travail before reaching the highway front caliper is locking up brake pads are on fire, the engine cover is off you can see the rotor & fire. Approaching another red light no need to apply brakes on RV caliper is tight as dick hat band and on fire. Almost stopped and caliper releases RV runs over chain and wraps around tire, the brake is applied to late RV hits trailer. Light turns green S-10 takes off, it's hard to steer the RV with a chain wrapped around the outer tie rod and front axle and the caliper stuck again.Then the tire, it can't take the heat anymore it explodes. The S-10 never lets out of it. Going down a hill the caliper releases. Apply brakes, pedal hits the floor. Brake hose ruptured or burnt? Three miles from destination no tire, no brakes and tie rod chained off to axle(hard to steer). What would you ladies do in this situation? That's what I thought. Not them they took it all the way. The 1984 S-10 blazer did not like it but it did it.

Well this clears everything up.....

keegan 05-28-2013 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by 30ftpanther (Post 3932693)
What about a 1984 S-10 blazer towing a 16' car trailer (empty) chained to a 40' motor home on the highway with one blown out front tire, yea on the rim. Well here it is. The motor home wasn't going to ride on the trailer so what do you do? That's right hook the chain to the trailer then to frame rail on the RV easy. About 6 miles of travail before reaching the highway front caliper is locking up brake pads are on fire, the engine cover is off you can see the rotor & fire. Approaching another red light no need to apply brakes on RV caliper is tight as dick hat band and on fire. Almost stopped and caliper releases RV runs over chain and wraps around tire, the brake is applied to late RV hits trailer. Light turns green S-10 takes off, it's hard to steer the RV with a chain wrapped around the outer tie rod and front axle and the caliper stuck again.Then the tire, it can't take the heat anymore it explodes. The S-10 never lets out of it. Going down a hill the caliper releases. Apply brakes, pedal hits the floor. Brake hose ruptured or burnt? Three miles from destination no tire, no brakes and tie rod chained off to axle(hard to steer). What would you ladies do in this situation? That's what I thought. Not them they took it all the way. The 1984 S-10 blazer did not like it but it did it.

It sounds like you should go have sex with your 1984 S-10 blazer...

4bus 05-28-2013 04:52 PM

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Level III Chaos 05-28-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by velocitoy (Post 3931792)
...towing anything is easy..it's the stopping part that can be a real problem... good advice to know your numbers, MT...

Sometimes it's both pulling and stopping are the real problem. LOL

Sydwayz 05-28-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3932666)
Better not take an AT to a dump...they may want to keep it.......:evilb:

ROFLMAO; that's funny. :party-smiley-048:

I also like the fact that 4bus "Liked" this.
It seems as though I hit a nerve; which of course was never intended. I hope you can get over it. :helmet:
BTW, which model Toyota Tundra do you have; as pictured in your sydwayz pics?

My first cousin (and good friend) is the Toyota Truck Product Manager for the entire midwest. I could own one for a song if I chose. I might have to get into one as I get back into demolition derby season coming up; since they are so rock solid.

Either that, or I want to go find my 1989 S-10 Blazer again.
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For now, I am just going to stick with my Yamaha (yes, the entirety of the tongue weight--1600 lbs., is on the hitch of my golf cart):

4bus 05-28-2013 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3932732)
ROFLMAO; that's funny. :party-smiley-048:

I also like the fact that 4bus "Liked" this.
It seems as though I hit a nerve; which of course was never intended. I hope you can get over it. :helmet:
BTW, which model Toyota Tundra do you have; as pictured in your sydwayz pics?

My first cousin (and good friend) is the Toyota Truck Product Manager for the entire midwest. I could own one for a song if I chose. I might have to get into one as I get back into demolition derby season coming up; since they are so rock solid.

Either that, or I want to go find my 1989 S-10 Blazer again.
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For now, I am just going to stick with my Yamaha (yes, the entirety of the tongue weight--1600 lbs., is on the hitch of my golf cart):

I liked it cause it was funny :D

I have a crew max limited 4x4 5.7 with the towing package, 6 speed with 4:30 gears.

I see nothing wrong with the golf cart towing that, it's all in the trailer anywayz

sommerfliesby 05-28-2013 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3932666)
Better not take an AT to a dump...they may want to keep it.......:evilb:

Thing is...I'd likely get more money for my 37, as its bigger than your 42...:)

TRL505 05-28-2013 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 3932784)
Thing is...I'd likely get more money for my 37, as its bigger than your 42...:)

But not faster....:bunnydance:

newfountainguy 05-28-2013 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3932638)
No....I am saying that the truck (08 F450) has a GCVWR of 33,000lbs. If you dont know what that is I suggest you look it up.

I did look it up, it's still hard to believe. Defiantly need a CDL.

sommerfliesby 05-28-2013 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3932801)
But not faster....:bunnydance:

Yippee skippee. My boat company still exists...does yours?

Now back to your regularly scheduled program...

newfountainguy 05-28-2013 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 3932823)
yippee skippee. My boat company still exists...does yours?

Now back to your regularly scheduled program...

yes!

4bus 05-28-2013 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 3932823)
Yippee skippee. My boat company still exists...does yours?

Now back to your regularly scheduled program...

So bigger (supposedly) is important to you, but faster is a yippee skippy? Maybe it's time for a cruiser? I heard the sea ray 370 is WAY bigger than your 37 AT

Your boat company? You own AT now?

And I just ordered some stuff from Fountain Powerboats a few months ago, shipped right out. They're still there, what's your point?

Sydwayz 05-28-2013 08:25 PM

Ok chaps, let's return this to an informative thread. :hijack:

sommerfliesby 05-28-2013 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3932828)
So bigger (supposedly) is important to you, but faster is a yippee skippy? Maybe it's time for a cruiser? I heard the sea ray 370 is WAY bigger than your 37 AT

Your boat company? You own AT now?

And I just ordered some stuff from Fountain Powerboats a few months ago, shipped right out. They're still there, what's your point?

You need to lay off the coffee, son. Your synapses aren't firing very well, and its making you sound stupid on the internet. We don't want that, now do we? C'mon over and lounge in the a/c on my boat while I make you some popcorn and grab a cold one out of the fridge sometime. Then we can go for an 80 mph boat ride, sound good? Moron.

For the record...the thread IS about the size of the boat and its weight, not the speed. Moron.

Sydwayz 05-28-2013 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3932830)
OK chaps, let's return this to an informative thread. :hijack:

:party-smiley-004:

ICDEDPPL 05-28-2013 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 3932823)
Yippee skippee. My boat company still exists...does yours?

Now back to your regularly scheduled program...

Wow Mike !!! I thought you have a Fountain for like 10 years!?!?!? AND all the insults?? (moron)
Where did that come from??
I know all the AT guys think their boat are the greatest thing since sliced bread but bashing the brand you had for so long 10 min after getting an AT??
Did someone hijack your account?

OldSchool 05-28-2013 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3932830)
Ok chaps, let's return this to an informative thread. :hijack:

Fords and Tundra's pretty much suck. Happy now? :D

Sydwayz 05-28-2013 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3932855)
Fords and Tundra's pretty much suck. Happy now? :D

And Freightshakers. :D

I'm going to go buy a real auto; a Fisker!

MrSneakAttack 05-28-2013 08:56 PM

kilos in the bed of the truck and strippers is the only way to go to the ramp! ha ha

Cole2534 05-28-2013 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3932732)

For now, I am just going to stick with my Yamaha (yes, the entirety of the tongue weight--1600 lbs., is on the hitch of my golf cart):

Sheeeiit, now I know my Rhino will pull the Little Beak.

I'm with 4bus, I don't understand the 'tow ratings'. I'm an engineer, by training and by trade, and I can't see what factors they're looking at to develop these ratings.

4bus 05-28-2013 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 3932840)
You need to lay off the coffee, son. Your synapses aren't firing very well, and its making you sound stupid on the internet. We don't want that, now do we? C'mon over and lounge in the a/c on my boat while I make you some popcorn and grab a cold one out of the fridge sometime. Then we can go for an 80 mph boat ride, sound good? Moron.

For the record...the thread IS about the size of the boat and its weight, not the speed. Moron.

80 mph?? YAWN


Only and hour and a half left in the day, and I get to read the stupidest thing I have seen on the web today. Way to slip that in at the last minute.

You guys in your little gay cult do take boats talk on the internet pretty serious huh? You can poke fun, or make serious false claims against everything else but when someone calmly bites back you revert to personal insults? That is beyond mature bro, and just shows how little you really are.

Go back down in your cabin, heat up the lube in your microwave, and slide that AT sex toy back inside you so you can sleep tonight. And we know, it says 6 inches on it, but it is really 2 in he's bigger than the others on the market. Congrats on taking the whole thing in true cult fashion

TDSTYG 05-28-2013 09:37 PM

Oh snap:stooges:

Bowtiepower00 05-28-2013 10:03 PM

Jeezus, Is it possible for a single towing thread on this effing site to stay on topic? Mild Thunder posts what was an informative, heads up thread about double checking the weight of your rig, just to be safe, and it turns in to yet another $h!tstorm. And, to top it all off, we get to see yet another thread turn into a beak discussion...

I think (most) of us can agree that factory tow ratings are pretty much BS. That doesn't change the fact that many (I'd guess the majority?) of boat owners on here are towing over their rated capacities. Even most of the Diesel owners, I would venture to guess.

Sydwayz brings up a great point, I always see guys claiming the maximum (5th wheel or, in some cases, WD) trailer rating on their rigs, when the vast majority of them are using non-WD bumper pull hitches, which are ALWAYS rated much lower.

I agree with both sides here, I have towed WAY more than my vehicles are rated for, on more than one occasion, and did it relatively safely. This includes my time as a CDL driver in just about every size of rig imaginable. Luckily, I never had an incident or accident.

This doesn't change the fact that in today's sue happy society you are really putting yourself at extreme unnecessary risk by towing an illegal, overweight load. I can guarantee that god forbid, you have a blowout or mechanical failure that results in an accident while towing overweight you are going to be involved in a lawsuit. People see a Boat and they see $$$$, period. Even if the wreck was another driver's fault, you are going to end up being the one at fault if you're overweight. Even worse, what if your actions result in the death of an innocent motorist? It's not worth it.

Now that I've got the seriousness outta the way,

You will be fine with any size and weight of boat if the towrig is a Dually... :whistle: :stooges: :evilb:

Jupiter Sunsation 05-28-2013 10:44 PM

I can't believe people are so stupid........A TUNDRA CAN TOW THE SPACE SHUTTLE! :D
Toyota Tundra pulling the Space Shuttle Endeavor - YouTube

MILD THUNDER 05-28-2013 10:59 PM

Don't wanna get into the AT VS FOUNTAIN crap. But, theres microwaves, and theres BAD A$$. :evilb:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaYbNXMq7c8

MILD THUNDER 05-28-2013 11:05 PM

Waaap waap waaa


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsqKb2HMf1o

ICDEDPPL 05-28-2013 11:31 PM

Cased Closed
 
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NEXT!

MILD THUNDER 05-28-2013 11:33 PM

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sommerfliesby 05-29-2013 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3932881)
80 mph?? YAWN


Only and hour and a half left in the day, and I get to read the stupidest thing I have seen on the web today. Way to slip that in at the last minute.

You guys in your little gay cult do take boats talk on the internet pretty serious huh? You can poke fun, or make serious false claims against everything else but when someone calmly bites back you revert to personal insults? That is beyond mature bro, and just shows how little you really are.

Go back down in your cabin, heat up the lube in your microwave, and slide that AT sex toy back inside you so you can sleep tonight. And we know, it says 6 inches on it, but it is really 2 in he's bigger than the others on the market. Congrats on taking the whole thing in true cult fashion

Let's take a look back and see who started throwing darts in the first place, shall we? It certainly wasn't me. It was a FOUNTAIN guy. My response was with what I thought to be a similar level of levity (humor, for the simple-minded). It was ANOTHER Fountain gunslinger that got all butthurt when I stated what I know to be fact, having owned a beak for the past SEVEN years. My insinuation that the front ends of your boats might be shoved so far up where the sun does not shine as to be affecting your mental processes did not come from any "cult" or "brand loyal" standpoint...it was merely a reaction to exactly the fanboy b.s. that you are accusing me of.

Funny how you can insult someone, and then get all insulted back and yell and scream for the refs when they respond in kind. That is the basis behind calling you a moron...the whole part about you acting moronically.

Dan...your personal vendetta against AT is probably best kept to yourself if you want a ride this summer.

Joe...you are a good friend, thanks for the advice on the scale, which is all I really asked for in this thread.

Apexwarrior 05-29-2013 04:59 AM

Well this certainly has been entertaining.. I agree, the ratings by manufacturers are hard to understand. That said, what was being using to haul boats like ours 20 or even 10 years ago?

Second, most of us probably do tow over the ratings of our trucks with no issues, but in todays litigious society, towing over the rating is just one more reason for your insurance company to reject your claim and one more reason to be sued. Ill pass on that..

TRL505 05-29-2013 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by newfountainguy (Post 3932817)
I did look it up, it's still hard to believe. Defiantly need a CDL.

Check....

TRL505 05-29-2013 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3932855)
Fords and Tundra's pretty much suck. Happy now? :D

LOL!!!!!! Now this is my kind of post!


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