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teamsynergy 05-29-2013 07:53 AM

WTF?!?! How the phuck did this thread turn into a soap opera??? 4BUS - Relax... Go tug something with your Tundra... :) Regardless of how undersized your truck is for pulling your mammoth of a boat... that's your issue... no one else's. When you have a mechanical failure, whether it be brakes, structural, drivetrain, ect., its alright... Just make sure to explain to the OP that you thought since it towed the space shuttle, you were good. BTW, I am not throwing darts at you... just throwing them with you...

TRL505 05-29-2013 08:16 AM

Sonic makes good Tater Tots and Cherry Limeades.....

teamsynergy 05-29-2013 08:24 AM

Don't forget the milk shakes....

TW720HVY 05-29-2013 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by tnc110 (Post 3931885)
Cdl required if combined gross rating is over 26k

And 10,000+lbs

Classes of License:

The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications:

Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

To determine if a CDL is required, the manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicles must be determined.

- Class A CDL – Required to operate a combination vehicle (truck and trailer) if the GVWR of the trailer is 10,001 pounds or more, and when added to the GVWR of the power unit (truck), the gross combined weight rating (GCWR) is 26,001 or more pounds.



But with that being said I believe this only applies to those driving for hire and commercial services.



Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3932551)

To each their own I guess, I have full confidence in my trucks towing ability, even in severe winds. I just can't deal with the headaches of a so called HD truck as a daily driver, I've had enough.

Just wondering what headaches the owners of HD trucks have to deal with as a daily driver?

30ftpanther 05-29-2013 08:41 AM

Who was at the 2012 Orlando FL. poker run?
BOAT/TRAILER RACE - CRASH-A-RAMA - 2012 - ORLANDO - YouTube.

Level III Chaos 05-29-2013 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by 30ftpanther (Post 3933068)
Who was at the 2012 Orlando FL. poker run?
BOAT/TRAILER RACE - CRASH-A-RAMA - 2012 - ORLANDO - YouTube.

Wow.....that's a crack up!

TW720HVY 05-29-2013 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by 30ftpanther (Post 3933068)
Who was at the 2012 Orlando FL. poker run?
BOAT/TRAILER RACE - CRASH-A-RAMA - 2012 - ORLANDO - YouTube.

CLEARLY there are several vehicles that are not properly rated for the loads they were pulling!

Sydwayz 05-29-2013 09:31 AM

My next tow vehicle will definitely be a hearse.

Jupiter Sunsation 05-29-2013 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by 30ftpanther (Post 3933068)
Who was at the 2012 Orlando FL. poker run?
BOAT/TRAILER RACE - CRASH-A-RAMA - 2012 - ORLANDO - YouTube.

I'll be honest I watched the whole clip! I didn't realize until almost the end there were two cars with police lights, thought the guy was just running fast laps!

Seems like transom straps would have helped at the beginning of the race! A Tundra towing a 47 Fountain would have won that race hands down! :D

Magic Medicine 05-29-2013 10:23 AM

This thread cracks me up. If you gonna tow with an under rated truck good for you! When something fails and you kill some one on the highway you better hired a gun slinging attorney. That's all I have to say about that!!!!

4bus 05-29-2013 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by teamsynergy (Post 3933039)
WTF?!?! How the phuck did this thread turn into a soap opera??? 4BUS - Relax... Go tug something with your Tundra... :) Regardless of how undersized your truck is for pulling your mammoth of a boat... that's your issue... no one else's. When you have a mechanical failure, whether it be brakes, structural, drivetrain, ect., its alright... Just make sure to explain to the OP that you thought since it towed the space shuttle, you were good. BTW, I am not throwing darts at you... just throwing them with you...

Mammoth? It's got 8 ft of beak and 2 ft of swim platform, it's really on 28 ft. Apparently fountain is the only one that counts the molded swim platforms in LOA, which worked out well for me and my little truck.

Btw my truck isn't really a tundra, it's a Tacoma with tundra badges. And I'm not worried about mechanical failures, Toyota don't break, and if they do Toyota buys them back to put in their museum of rare Toyotas that actually had a failure.

Speaking of failures, can we talk about my dmax that broke every over month, or my 6.0l powerstroke that broke every other week like clockwork? I should get another one of those HD trucks, but keep my toyo as a back up to insure I can get to the lake when my dealer takes if for weeks on end in July to repair :)

You really should take that power out of the hedgehog and put it ina 35 lightning, bet you pick up 20 mph :)

Hahah

On a nice note, I was just watching you hatch off YouTube video the other day, still one of the coolest vids in the web. That's a cool ride

4bus 05-29-2013 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Magic Medicine (Post 3933137)
This thread cracks me up. If you gonna tow with an under rated truck good for you! When something fails and you kill some one on the highway you better hired a gun slinging attorney. That's all I have to say about that!!!!

And what are you towing that 32 ft jet boat with? Anything short of an F650 and technically you will be in the same trouble.

Please post a link to any lawsuit on recreational towing that proves your theory?

I don't care how well equipped you are, If you kill someone in your car you are gonna get sued and you will pay

Sydwayz 05-29-2013 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3933147)
And what are you towing that 32 ft jet boat with? Anything short of an F650 and technically you will be in the same trouble.

Please post a link to any lawsuit on recreational towing that proves your theory?

I don't care how well equipped you are, If you kill someone in your car you are gonna get sued and you will pay

Homey works at a Ford dealer and drives a SuperDuty. Just giving you the heads up.

Magic Medicine 05-29-2013 10:41 AM

2012 F250 Diesel. 4bus its pretty obvious that towing is a sore subject to you since you are towing something way to heavy for your boat. Quit being an internet bully and move on!

Magic Medicine 05-29-2013 10:44 AM

Thanks Brian! Don't work at the dealership anymore! Being I was a service director for Ford and GM, does NOTHING for my credibility when it comes to towing or tow ratings. Not to mention I have been towing boats since I was 15 years old without my drivers license, when I worked at the local marina in high school. Yep thats right I have been towing boats for 20 years.

Interceptor 05-29-2013 11:18 AM

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Tell Me What I Want To Hear

There seems to be an emerging trend in this section. It's "tell me what I want to hear".

Example- the poster comes on asking for advice about a towing combination. Through the thread, he gets sound information- from him under-estimating the weight of his trailer to him not considering the thousand pound of fuel he'll have in the boat and so on. Then they'll hear about how they've over-estimated the towing capacity of their vehicle. (Interestingly enough, it seems like they come to ask these questions AFTER they've purchased everything)

Then, someone comes on and says, "No problem! I've towed exactly the same thing with the same truck and I've never had an issue". Imediately the person is willing to go with that.

Am I just wasting time responding? I'd like to help someone not kill themselves or push my insurance any higher but I wonder if those of us who offer common sense and fact are anything more than flame-bait.

teamsynergy 05-29-2013 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3933142)
Mammoth? It's got 8 ft of beak and 2 ft of swim platform, it's really on 28 ft. Apparently fountain is the only one that counts the molded swim platforms in LOA, which worked out well for me and my little truck.

Btw my truck isn't really a tundra, it's a Tacoma with tundra badges. And I'm not worried about mechanical failures, Toyota don't break, and if they do Toyota buys them back to put in their museum of rare Toyotas that actually had a failure.

Speaking of failures, can we talk about my dmax that broke every over month, or my 6.0l powerstroke that broke every other week like clockwork? I should get another one of those HD trucks, but keep my toyo as a back up to insure I can get to the lake when my dealer takes if for weeks on end in July to repair :)

You really should take that power out of the hedgehog and put it ina 35 lightning, bet you pick up 20 mph :)

Hahah

On a nice note, I was just watching you hatch off YouTube video the other day, still one of the coolest vids in the web. That's a cool ride

I'm content with my speeds lol...

http://imageshack.us/a/img200/810/42...6748497013.jpg

Also, the room I have, albeit a 31' boat, is great to other said boats of the same size... I like the fact it has air, heat, refer, microwave, vacu-flush head, flat screen, and still functions like I want it to...

Magic Medicine 05-29-2013 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by teamsynergy (Post 3933185)
I'm content with my speeds lol...

http://imageshack.us/a/img200/810/42...6748497013.jpg

Also, the room I have, albeit a 31' boat, is great to other said boats of the same size... I like the fact it has air, heat, refer, microwave, vacu-flush head, flat screen, and still functions like I want it to...

Very nice Todd!

teamsynergy 05-29-2013 11:28 AM

Andrew... nice to see you on... what say you?

Magic Medicine 05-29-2013 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by teamsynergy (Post 3933193)
Andrew... nice to see you on... what say you?

I hope to boat like crazy this summer. No bail and chain, little guy every other weekend. My buddy has a Condo and slip in New Buffalo, and the ramp is good enough to launch a 42' OL. Life doesn't suck!!!!!

MILD THUNDER 05-29-2013 11:35 AM

You guys with these fancy new trucks and top speed numbers are depressing me. My 1990's equipment is really looking lackluster now. :(

MILD THUNDER 05-29-2013 11:42 AM

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Since we were talking about strippers and kilo's in the bed of the truck, here you go. :evilb:

Magic Medicine 05-29-2013 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3933199)
You guys with these fancy new trucks and top speed numbers are depressing me. My 1990's equipment is really looking lackluster now. :(

I love your boat Joey!!!!! Old school muscle!!!!

Sydwayz 05-29-2013 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3933206)
Since we were talking about strippers and kilo's in the bed of the truck, here you go. :evilb:

Could be a new kilo record. I can't believe that truck is not squatting! It must have been the same truck they used for the Shuttle commercial.

4bus 05-29-2013 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by teamsynergy (Post 3933185)
I'm content with my speeds lol...

http://imageshack.us/a/img200/810/42...6748497013.jpg

Also, the room I have, albeit a 31' boat, is great to other said boats of the same size... I like the fact it has air, heat, refer, microwave, vacu-flush head, flat screen, and still functions like I want it to...

That is an extremely impressive speed for that hull. Congrats.

And I am we'll aware of the ammentities in a sonic cabin, in fact I was in the market for a 386 when I found my fountain. Wasnt aware that you could make a sonic that fast!

4bus 05-29-2013 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3933206)
Since we were talking about strippers and kilo's in the bed of the truck, here you go. :evilb:

Ya, tell your wife no more rides home....the tundra did not like it

endeavor1 05-29-2013 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3933217)
Ya, tell your wife no more rides home....the tundra did not like it

Thats just being a d!ck.....

4bus 05-29-2013 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Magic Medicine (Post 3933153)
2012 F250 Diesel. 4bus its pretty obvious that towing is a sore subject to you since you are towing something way to heavy for your boat. Quit being an internet bully and move on!

Internet bully? No, I am defending myself against name calling and the Internet police worried about what I am doing.


Way too heavy, again if it felt unsafe I wouldn't be doing it. But paper tells all huh? I have purposely but my truck in fake evasive manuveors on the highway to see how it would react. Something I would have attempted with my crew can 2010 f250 srw 5.4, that truck just felt unsafe. But go figure, the f250 was rated at a whopping 9600lbs towing, something. I should have checked before purchase.

I'm gonna go rip some tags off unsold mattresses, to give you guys something new to talk about. Btw towing a boat at 15 is illegal, what were you thinking? Should we start a new thread about that?

Seeing that we are bragging, I used to be an equipment. Rep for snap on and towed a car hauler full of equipment 50k miles a year for 6 straight years, not too mention being a boat owner for 20 years now.

I will admit there is a prob a better choice for a tow vehicle for me, but for a tow vehicle and a daily driver I believe I am driving the best overall choice that fits all my needs at this time. Most tows at exactly .1 miles to my lake which I live on. And my long tows are 100 miles tto the 1000 islands, which I am doing this weekend and have complete confidence in.

So just to recap for the captive audience. Truck has air bags, big brakes, class 5 hitch, and lt 10 ply tires. I'm thinking about getting an even smaller truck just to keep the thread going? How about one of those s-10 blazers?

I will weigh the whole rig on Friday and post back with pics for ya'll, I am curious.

Mild thunder, you're a trouble maker...get back in the magic room :D

4bus 05-29-2013 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by endeavor1 (Post 3933228)
Thats just being a d!ck.....

No, I was smiling when I typed it?? What I wrote to sommerfliesby was me being a dick :D

When did everyone become so sensitive on here? I guess I'm guilty of it to, maybe typing is taken the wrong way? I have only ever bad mad on this site once, the green engine thread. Besides that I am laughing the whole time, I just assume others are to...but maybe not?

Sorry if I offended anyone with my typing. If I have truly offended with you with my choice of tow vehicle, I could give a flying $&@"

4bus 05-29-2013 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Magic Medicine (Post 3933153)
2012 F250 Diesel. 4bus its pretty obvious that towing is a sore subject to you since you are towing something way to heavy for your boat. Quit being an internet bully and move on!


Hmm. Ok let's analyze....sydwayz?

What is the true weight of your boat a trailer, loaded with a full portapotty?

Crew cab srw? What hitch? (My f350 HD edt diesel came with a. Class 3 for some reason)

What does you truck come in at, with all your stuff in it?

If I was a lawyer could I find fault in your rig if you wiped out on the highway? Give some thought to that.

You guys should thank me in reality. I give merit to the ongoing hot topic here on oso. I mean, how could we talk about this if EVERYONE was towing within their rated capacity. For those that are I commend you, and will send each of you a free cookie if you pm me your address. For those that are not, don't be afraid to chime in, this is a discussion site and I could use some company...I know our out there, I see it every day. :D

Magic Medicine 05-29-2013 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3933229)
Internet bully? No, I am defending myself against name calling and the Internet police worried about what I am doing.


Way too heavy, again if it felt unsafe I wouldn't be doing it. But paper tells all huh? I have purposely but my truck in fake evasive manuveors on the highway to see how it would react. Something I would have attempted with my crew can 2010 f250 srw 5.4, that truck just felt unsafe. But go figure, the f250 was rated at a whopping 9600lbs towing, something. I should have checked before purchase.

I'm gonna go rip some tags off unsold mattresses, to give you guys something new to talk about. Btw towing a boat at 15 is illegal, what were you thinking? Should we start a new thread about that?

Seeing that we are bragging, I used to be an equipment. Rep for snap on and towed a car hauler full of equipment 50k miles a year for 6 straight years, not too mention being a boat owner for 20 years now.

I will admit there is a prob a better choice for a tow vehicle for me, but for a tow vehicle and a daily driver I believe I am driving the best overall choice that fits all my needs at this time. Most tows at exactly .1 miles to my lake which I live on. And my long tows are 100 miles tto the 1000 islands, which I am doing this weekend and have complete confidence in.

So just to recap for the captive audience. Truck has air bags, big brakes, class 5 hitch, and lt 10 ply tires. I'm thinking about getting an even smaller truck just to keep the thread going? How about one of those s-10 blazers?

I will weigh the whole rig on Friday and post back with pics for ya'll, I am curious.

Mild thunder, you're a trouble maker...get back in the magic room :D

Hey if you can live with it I could care less. Enjoy!

Magic Medicine 05-29-2013 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3933241)
Hmm. Ok let's analyze....sydwayz?

What is the true weight of your boat a trailer, loaded with a full portapotty?

Crew cab srw? What hitch? (My f350 HD edt diesel came with a. Class 3 for some reason)

What does you truck come in at, with all your stuff in it?

If I was a lawyer could I find fault in your rig if you wiped out on the highway? Give some thought to that.

You guys should thank me in reality. I give merit to the ongoing hot topic here on oso. I mean, how could we talk about this if EVERYONE was towing within their rated capacity. For those that are I commend you, and will send each of you a free cookie if you pm me your address. For those that are not, don't be afraid to chime in, this is a discussion site and I could use some company...I know our out there, I see it every day. :D

No portapotty on my boat. The only thing I keep on it besides the required safety gear is, miller lite and grey goose. Nothing more nothing less. Im sure the bad influence guys can attest to that!!!!

Knot 4 Me 05-29-2013 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3933229)
Internet bully? No, I am defending myself against name calling and the Internet police worried about what I am doing.


Way too heavy, again if it felt unsafe I wouldn't be doing it. But paper tells all huh? I have purposely but my truck in fake evasive manuveors on the highway to see how it would react. Something I would have attempted with my crew can 2010 f250 srw 5.4, that truck just felt unsafe. But go figure, the f250 was rated at a whopping 9600lbs towing, something. I should have checked before purchase.

I'm gonna go rip some tags off unsold mattresses, to give you guys something new to talk about. Btw towing a boat at 15 is illegal, what were you thinking? Should we start a new thread about that?

Seeing that we are bragging, I used to be an equipment. Rep for snap on and towed a car hauler full of equipment 50k miles a year for 6 straight years, not too mention being a boat owner for 20 years now.

I will admit there is a prob a better choice for a tow vehicle for me, but for a tow vehicle and a daily driver I believe I am driving the best overall choice that fits all my needs at this time. Most tows at exactly .1 miles to my lake which I live on. And my long tows are 100 miles tto the 1000 islands, which I am doing this weekend and have complete confidence in.

So just to recap for the captive audience. Truck has air bags, big brakes, class 5 hitch, and lt 10 ply tires. I'm thinking about getting an even smaller truck just to keep the thread going? How about one of those s-10 blazers?

I will weigh the whole rig on Friday and post back with pics for ya'll, I am curious.

Mild thunder, you're a trouble maker...get back in the magic room :D

An F-250 with a 5.4L shouldn't be rated to pull itself around. :stooges:

Magic Medicine 05-29-2013 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 3933253)
An F-250 with a 5.4L shouldn't be rated to pull itself around. :stooges:

Absolutely, that 5.4 is a DOG in a 250, not much better in a 150 for that matter

MILD THUNDER 05-29-2013 12:38 PM

Funny thing is, I know most of the guys on this thread. I pretty much guarantee if we were all on the dock, we would be laughing and having a blast.

Gotta get back to my magic room now and throw some eagle cranks in the dumpster :)

Magic Medicine 05-29-2013 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3933258)
Funny thing is, I know most of the guys on this thread. I pretty much guarantee if we were all on the dock, we would be laughing and having a blast.

Gotta get back to my magic room now and throw some eagle cranks in the dumpster :)

How bout it Joe. We need to get some good boating and dock party's going real soon. I think the natives are getting restless!

machloosy 05-29-2013 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3933241)
Hmm. Ok let's analyze....sydwayz?
You guys should thank me in reality. I give merit to the ongoing hot topic here on oso. I mean, how could we talk about this if EVERYONE was towing within their rated capacity. For those that are I commend you, and will send each of you a free cookie if you pm me your address. For those that are not, don't be afraid to chime in, this is a discussion site and I could use some company...I know our out there, I see it every day. :D

I about spit my drink out :lolhit: I've been laughing the past 5 pages

4bus 05-29-2013 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3933258)
Funny thing is, I know most of the guys on this thread. I pretty much guarantee if we were all on the dock, we would be laughing and having a blast.

Gotta get back to my magic room now and throw some eagle cranks in the dumpster :)

Hahaha that just never gets old :D

Sydwayz 05-29-2013 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3933229)
Internet bully? No, I am defending myself against name calling and the Internet police worried about what I am doing.


Way too heavy, again if it felt unsafe I wouldn't be doing it. But paper tells all huh? I have purposely but my truck in fake evasive manuveors on the highway to see how it would react. Something I would have attempted with my crew can 2010 f250 srw 5.4, that truck just felt unsafe. But go figure, the f250 was rated at a whopping 9600lbs towing, something. I should have checked before purchase.

I'm gonna go rip some tags off unsold mattresses, to give you guys something new to talk about. Btw towing a boat at 15 is illegal, what were you thinking? Should we start a new thread about that?

Seeing that we are bragging, I used to be an equipment. Rep for snap on and towed a car hauler full of equipment 50k miles a year for 6 straight years, not too mention being a boat owner for 20 years now.

I will admit there is a prob a better choice for a tow vehicle for me, but for a tow vehicle and a daily driver I believe I am driving the best overall choice that fits all my needs at this time. Most tows at exactly .1 miles to my lake which I live on. And my long tows are 100 miles tto the 1000 islands, which I am doing this weekend and have complete confidence in.

So just to recap for the captive audience. Truck has air bags, big brakes, class 5 hitch, and lt 10 ply tires. I'm thinking about getting an even smaller truck just to keep the thread going? How about one of those s-10 blazers?

I will weigh the whole rig on Friday and post back with pics for ya'll, I am curious.

Mild thunder, you're a trouble maker...get back in the magic room :D

What did he say? I think you are missing a few words important words in there.

And it's not illegal to drive a car/truck&trailer on private property; without a license. If it was, you are going to need to arrest a lot of farm kids; and myself as I started driving when detailing cars at a dealer as a young teenager.

Sydwayz 05-29-2013 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3933241)
Hmm. Ok let's analyze....sydwayz?

What is the true weight of your boat a trailer, loaded with a full portapotty?

Crew cab srw? What hitch? (My f350 HD edt diesel came with a. Class 3 for some reason)

What does you truck come in at, with all your stuff in it?

If I was a lawyer could I find fault in your rig if you wiped out on the highway? Give some thought to that.

You guys should thank me in reality. I give merit to the ongoing hot topic here on oso. I mean, how could we talk about this if EVERYONE was towing within their rated capacity. For those that are I commend you, and will send each of you a free cookie if you pm me your address. For those that are not, don't be afraid to chime in, this is a discussion site and I could use some company...I know our out there, I see it every day. :D



2012 Ford F-250 SRW Crew Cab 4x4 has a 14,000 lbs. conventional tow rating. I think Magic Medicine is probably good. :coolcowboy:

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2...Duty_Specs.pdf


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