Half these manufacturer ratings are meaningless to start with, I mean how did the Tundra lose capacity from one year to the next, they just rated it differently. There are also many trucks that would have trouble with the rated load when you add some hills into the equation. I agree with 4bus it is very clear as a driver when the vehicle you are using to tow something is or is not up to the task, I am sure most of us have felt it at one time or another.

The model you specified is not my model, how's that? You randomly picked one assuming I had the 9000lb package?

Again, you are not going to change my mind as an OWNER. And I'm not going to change your opinion as an OBSERVER. I tow over the rated limit for my truck. My boat engines are over the rated hp for the drives, I drive an average of 10 percent over the posted speed limit ( except school zones) when I am tied up for the night I drink more than the dr recommend limit of alcohol, my recreation produces more co2 than the EPA recommends, and I some times cross the street without using a cross walk.

Dude, I randomly picked one when I made the first post. (Nicest optioned one to give you my reasoning; had nothing to do with 'you'. I have no idea what year or model your truck is.)

When I'm wrong about something; I'll admit it. I don't think I've provided any wrong info.

Please climb down out of your clocktower.

First off all the F-450 that my bossiness owns have a GVW of 17,500. I believe the F-350 is a 14,500 truck.

TRL, are you saying that a F-450 has a GVW of 33,00? That's a hard one to swallow.

What year?
What cab config?
4x2 or 4x4?
Engine?
Transmission?
Gear ratio?

It's not hard to find out.

I tried searching the web for 200 year old metaphor definitions but came up empty.

I think I kind of understand what you were getting at, which is comical considering the source.

Sydwys.....

Dude, what are you the commissioner of this thread?

My tucks are what I'm basing my numbers on, just like everybody else.

I happen to like this topic; but I'm not a paid consultant.

If you want to know the specs on a particular truck, I will see what I can do to find them. That's it.

Please have a nice day.

Some relevant Ford info:

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...superdtypu.pdf

No....I am saying that the truck (08 F450) has a GCVWR of 33,000lbs. If you dont know what that is I suggest you look it up.