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Interceptor 09-09-2013 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Ultra Boats MW (Post 3991332)
Not to harp, not to sound like an ahole, but looking at the bigger picture this gives anyone ammo to argue shutting events down.

It's one thing to read a condolence thread, but another thing of being able to google poker run accident and find the history and debates. Is it just me or wouldn't it be better to have this discussion and other past discussions moved to a more "private" area like the Bilge?

Just a thought?

They know.

prholley 09-09-2013 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 3991342)
Wow. I hadn't seen the accident from that view. I do not understand why others have stated that no spectator boats played a role. Viewed it on my iPhone and at
Least on the small screen it looks like that cruiser nearly got T- boned and may have caused the accident. Again, others claim to have seen aerial photographs and say no spectator boats were to blame. That video seems to suggest otherwise.

I seems pretty obvious the green skater was in the lead, backed out and went through the roost of the other boat in order to miss the cruiser in the middle of the freakin lake!

Jupiter Sunsation 09-09-2013 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by bidpro (Post 3991333)
"1075 powered 40+ ft cat was costing him over 100K a year"

Only if you don't blow something up, and if you do $100K becomes $200K instantly

A few considerations:

1. Early 1075s were finicky
2. 100k/10 runs = 10k each, not really crazy money if you are shipping the boat nationwide
3. They were his numbers, I will leave it up to him to chime in

Crude Intentions 09-09-2013 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 3991342)
Wow. I hadn't seen the accident from that view. I do not understand why others have stated that no spectator boats played a role. Viewed it on my iPhone and at
Least on the small screen it looks like that cruiser nearly got T- boned and may have caused the accident. Again, others claim to have seen aerial photographs and say no spectator boats were to blame. That video seems to suggest otherwise.

Herein lies an issue. Yes the white boat crossed the path although it wasn't his fault. Mostly because the lead boat didn't have a problem and if he slowed rapidly to avoid the crossing vessel then the other boat was at fault for not being in position to slow his vessel. At 150+ mph a boat will approach way faster then some can react. I don't know the waters so can't comment on the curves.

Consider this, your driving along at 80 on the highway nice day windows down. All of a sudden a crotch rocket comes by at 140. Feels like your standing still and usually never even notice until he's up on you. Easily could change lanes and take a life. I have on numerous occasions checked made sure lanes were clear and started a turn or merge only to be surprised by a bike or car traveling at an extremely high rate of speed.

phragle 09-09-2013 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 3991342)
Wow. I hadn't seen the accident from that view. I do not understand why others have stated that no spectator boats played a role. Viewed it on my iPhone and at
Least on the small screen it looks like that cruiser nearly got T- boned and may have caused the accident. Again, others claim to have seen aerial photographs and say no spectator boats were to blame. That video seems to suggest otherwise.

That's what it looked like on your Iphone, Imagine what it looked like thru the windshield of a skater at speed..........

POWERPLAY J 09-09-2013 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by prholley (Post 3991317)

Off topic. But scroll down from the vid and watch the collision vid. Perfect example of an asshat running dangerously close to other boats picking through to the front of the pack.

Ultra Boats MW 09-09-2013 05:52 PM

Asshat X 22222!!!

Jupiter Sunsation 09-09-2013 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3991354)
Off topic. But scroll down from the vid and watch the collision vid. Perfect example of an asshat running dangerously close to other boats picking through to the front of the pack.

Classic 42X rubbing glass with a cat! 2 very famous offshore guys behind the wheel of each boat. I was on that poker run but never saw the video!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CjTV8-v...eature=related

tomtbone1993 09-09-2013 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3991364)
Classic 42X rubbing glass with a cat! 2 very famous offshore guys behind the wheel of each boat. I was on that poker run but never saw the video!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CjTV8-v...eature=related


I didn't think that video would ever be released....

boatme 09-09-2013 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3991364)
Classic 42X rubbing glass with a cat! 2 very famous offshore guys behind the wheel of each boat. I was on that poker run but never saw the video!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CjTV8-v...eature=related

funny thing is who sent me that video LOL. I kept from posting it for many years then i ran across it one day and decided to post it to you tube

The boat next to Phil near the end of the clip was a natorious crook from here in Michigan "Michael Vorce"


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