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lucky strike 09-13-2013 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by sdg0080 (Post 3995537)
The people running that boat without safety gear are simple trying to reach the light at the end of the tunnel that much faster ... :) anyways it all comes down to common sense or the lack thereof. People have big egos and high dollar toys. They do not care who else is on the water only that they have the biggest and fastest boat. If people don't learn to slow down then the law enforcement will eventually be the ones putting an end to it for all of us. There is a time and a place to run wide open at 150+ but it sure as hell isn't on a crowded lake. You want to play like a big boy then go out and play where the big boys run. Their is a reason they are called offshore power boats.

Well said

PARADOX 09-13-2013 10:13 PM

There is ton if input on this issue. I don't mind the debate. I see some posts where as the poster has no clue of what they saying, attempting to sell product, or just being a key board commando for the hell of it and never raced and never attended a PR. And that's ok. No one should expect or blame the manufactures for the owners/drivers stupidity. and let's not ask them to solve the problems. No manufacturer is holding a gun to the operators head to drive faster or to drop a 1650 HP peace of metal in a tub that is designed and classified, rated etc. to handle say 1000 HP. some deep pocket yo-yo wants to go 165+. ok. He won't go 10 miles offshore, since there is no one to see it and he can't show off his ego, no yuotube vids of his insanity. Until we as boaters realize and remember what is a boat for and it's use, (mostly recreation, unless you're in the racing circuit) there is NO answer and no solution. There is no other way to put it, SLOW DOWN WHEN YOU SHOULD'T GO FAST. Just because you can go 150+ doesn't mean you have to when the conditions are not there. The only condition, place, location where you should, and could, is 10 miles out in the Golf, (or where ever, I think you got my meaning), Owners with deep pockets need the vids and the attention of behaving like a 10 year old. Some are lucky and can enjoy the youtube media. Some are mourned by their family.

PARADOX 09-13-2013 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 3995595)
Well said

+1

Level III Chaos 09-13-2013 10:58 PM

Why is this thread here? This guy had the last thread he started CLOSED because he didn't' like the dialog. F that! What if this thread doesn't go the way he wants? Cry to the mods and others again? BS. If you value your time responding......post over HERE ON THIS THREAD instead to join a real conversation that is continuing on making poker runs safer and boats too.

low_psi 09-13-2013 11:16 PM

The boats, equipment, etc are fine! Except many need to actually use the safety equipment designed to save their lives. We don't need to modify the boats to accommodate poor judgement. Participants need to exercise better judgement and stop RACING to the first stop. Not sure why we need 10 different threads, where the general concesus is the same "slow down". It appears some of you are looking for a magical device that will make the boats and poker runs safer. Got news for you all, the human brain is that magical device. Problem is the ego in some appears to over power the brain. There is no need to over think this folks.

sdg0080 09-13-2013 11:22 PM

We all know the answer just not every one will accept it. Slow down... its that simple. Speed is awesome and fun but it can be very bad as well. The rules will mean nothing if there is no enforcement. We need to police ourselves before other decide to do it for us... and those people usually have shiney badges and are generally not as forgiving as a we would be. I saw it happen with street racing in NY. They cracked down hard. They would impound your car for simply sitting in a parking lot watching. ."Participating in an illegal street racing event". They would block the exits and bring in the tow trucks. When people get pissed off enough they take action and usually that action is a far over reaction to what occurred.

tomtbone1993 09-13-2013 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Level III Chaos (Post 3995622)
Why is this thread here? This guy had the last thread he started CLOSED because he didn't' like the dialog. F that! What if this thread doesn't go the way he wants? Cry to the mods and others again? BS. If you value your time responding......post over HERE ON THIS THREAD instead to join a real conversation that is continuing on making poker runs safer and boats too.

thanks for saving me the lengthy typing.....

US1 Fountain 09-14-2013 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by tomtbone1993 (Post 3995642)
thanks for saving me the lengthy typing.....

Yup

iamjoe 09-14-2013 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by Level III Chaos (Post 3995622)
Why is this thread here? This guy had the last thread he started CLOSED because he didn't' like the dialog. F that! What if this thread doesn't go the way he wants? Cry to the mods and others again? BS. If you value your time responding......post over HERE ON THIS THREAD instead to join a real conversation that is continuing on making poker runs safer and boats too.

Yeah, that's right, I didn't like the dialog. The last thread was to ignite a discussion on solving the problems we're facing and it turned into a disrespectful bashing of the people involved in the accident. If you don't like my approach Nort, don't read my thread. I couldn't care less. I didn't cry to the mods either. We spoke by phone before I posted my request and discussed how out of control people were. BTW, I don't expect the thread to go any direction much less "the way he wants". I can tell you this much; if you or anyone else is stupid enough to think that people are just going to slow down and follow the rules because of another accident, your dreaming. Something needs to be done to control the people who can't control themselves. Rather than badbouth my thread Nort, why don't you come up with a way to make it better? Otherwise, kiss my azz.

tanner 09-14-2013 05:15 AM

It's not a complete fix but it will avoid a lot of blow overs overs on cats.Manufactures need to install several large holes on the front part of the hull with flaps that are controlled by gravity weights, the flaps will open as the boat raises above level, and stay shut as the boat is level and air keeps them shut s it passes under the hull, once the boat goes 10 -15 degrees above center the laps start to open due to the weights staying and 0 gravity.


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