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chuckbeecher 10-12-2013 12:17 PM

Races Leaving Key West??
 
The Key West newspaper has an article about the races maybe leaving the Southern Most City.
Any reliable details or rumors regarding this grave and serious matter?

Interceptor 10-12-2013 01:07 PM

Clearwater is going after the SBI worlds per a thread posted here recently

chuckbeecher 10-12-2013 04:07 PM

What's next??
Indy 500 run in St. Louis??
Christmas moves from Bethlehem to Paris?
Legendary event birthplaces should just be left alone!!!!!

Pete B 10-12-2013 04:37 PM

its about $$$$$$

Interceptor 10-12-2013 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by chuckbeecher (Post 4010986)
What's next??
Indy 500 run in St. Louis??
Christmas moves from Bethlehem to Paris?
Legendary event birthplaces should just be left alone!!!!!

Funny comparison.
1. Indy almost died at one point, the track became a dump and luckily got bailed out.
2. We don't even know when Christ was born but choose an arbitrary date to celebrate.

ActiveThunder 10-12-2013 05:41 PM

Yeah, because there is soooo much happening in Clearwater.

I wouldn't drive across the state to see it.

Zero Patience 10-12-2013 06:06 PM

We will still go to Key West the first week in November, no matter if there are Races or not.

Xtremeracing 10-12-2013 06:16 PM

What paper is it in I cant seem to find it? KW still has a few yrs in their contact so if there is any truth to it won't be for a few yrs.

Crude Intentions 10-12-2013 06:16 PM

I think most people are missing the point. If the races move to Clearwater it will get more exposure as it is #1 a more populated are and #2 easier and less expensive for most people to go to.

I love key west and am by no means talking bad about it but facts are facts.

foxbat 10-12-2013 06:16 PM

cwater has superior accomodations, two international airports for easy ingress/egress, larger population, and most importantly the better beach side view for the public to see the races. kw is too expensive for even a general weekend stay and remote for most. time to change things up.

chuckbeecher 10-12-2013 06:24 PM

Well how about Kitty Hawk to Roswell!!!
LOL!!

Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4010994)
Funny comparison.
1. Indy almost died at one point, the track became a dump and luckily got bailed out.
2. We don't even know when Christ was born but choose an arbitrary date to celebrate.


ActiveThunder 10-12-2013 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 4011022)
I think most people are missing the point. If the races move to Clearwater it will get more exposure as it is #1 a more populated are and #2 easier and less expensive for most people to go to.

I love key west and am by no means talking bad about it but facts are facts.

You left out #3. Boring,

If the Florida Powerboat Club has the Key West run the same weekend I bet the turnout is the same with or without races.

Clearwater will be about as exciting as the SBI races we had in Deerfield Beach.

chuckbeecher 10-12-2013 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4011012)
Yeah, because there is soooo much happening in Clearwater.

I wouldn't drive across the state to see it.

I'm with you Ol' Great One!!
I like blue water..blue boats but by November 1st Too many "blue hairs " clogging up the roadways and eating and drinking establishments for those early bird speacials .Just screws up Happy Hour!!
and as for beach venues nothing compares to Fort Zach beach or The Mole or the turn in the Harbor!! THAT UP CLOSE!!

and as for the Christmas statement it was the event location not the date!!


And would the Poker Run be run down Alligator Alley ???? someone call Stu and get the details on that!

chuckbeecher 10-12-2013 06:40 PM

You know now that I have a beverage and think about..the world has really gone to sh*t since JR died and the APBA left town.

Greatguy66 10-12-2013 06:40 PM

I'll be in Clearwater the week of Keys race any truth to the cancelation??????????

ActiveThunder 10-12-2013 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by chuckbeecher (Post 4011031)
You know now that I have a beverage and think about..the world has really gone to sh*t since JR died and the APBA left town.

What do you mean by "now that I have a beverage"? Your starting late!

ActiveThunder 10-12-2013 06:51 PM

And if you want to see a race, Charlotte is on right now. Green flag.

My $ is on #48.

chuckbeecher 10-12-2013 07:01 PM

The Citizen

Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4011021)
What paper is it in I cant seem to find it? KW still has a few yrs in their contact so if there is any truth to it won't be for a few yrs.


chuckbeecher 10-12-2013 07:12 PM

I'm with you
but I use to fly for 24(really his girlfriend then/wife now) and wouldn't mind him doing it again'
Then Juniors pilot help train me in the Lear 60 after I got out of school and think Junior is due something big come his way and the Kenseth is a nice guy and his crew are friends of ours.
But what would be really KOOL is if Kyle The M&M boy and that punk The Kaz would have a a headon!!
If you can't tell by my opinions that I am a Tony Stewart diehard fan..wup ass and ask questions later! But 48 is probably the classiest one of all!
wouldn't it be great if they would get in a boat the week before Homestead!!!

Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4011038)
And if you want to see a race, Charlotte is on right now. Green flag.

My $ is on #48.


ActiveThunder 10-12-2013 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by chuckbeecher (Post 4011044)
If you can't tell by my opinions that I am a Tony Stewart diehard fan..wup ass and ask questions later! But 48 is probably the classiest one of all! wouldn't it be great if they would get in a boat the week before Homestead!!!

I just acquired a personal pic autographed by Tony Stewart two weeks ago. On the wall in my office next to Clark's boat!

Donzi ZX 10-12-2013 07:21 PM

It's the whole Key West experience. Hang in Clearwater for a week? No thanks.

chuckbeecher 10-12-2013 07:26 PM

Kool1!
Now that's two legends together! Lol!!

Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4011046)
I just acquired a personal pic autographed by Tony Stewart two weeks ago. On the wall in my office next to Clark's boat!


chuckbeecher 10-12-2013 07:48 PM

Hey Punk Ass is a jackoff or is that a jack-on!!!

Xtremeracing 10-12-2013 07:48 PM

KW will have some awesome racing in a few wks. Lets worry about the future in the future, right now it time to get to the big show in KW.

Expensive Date 10-12-2013 09:07 PM

Figures, I finally get a boat I could do the Key West run with. In all honesty think the poker run is the main show, so hopefully not much will change.

BRUCE SEROFF 10-13-2013 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4011021)
What paper is it in I cant seem to find it? KW still has a few yrs in their contact so if there is any truth to it won't be for a few yrs.

Frank.. it amazes me that you seem to know just about all the goings on at SBI. But have no knowledge of something like this.

http://keysnews.com/node/50555

Xtremeracing 10-13-2013 07:13 AM

Bruce
Clearwater has been trying to get the Worlds for yrs. They are no closer then they were 2 yrs ago. Like I said KW has a multiple yr contact and Clearwater isnt even on the radar right now. This was talked about weeks ago on another thread.

cosmic12 10-13-2013 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4011038)
And if you want to see a race, Charlotte is on right now. Green flag.

My $ is on #48.

Well, that didn't work out so good. Man hate the little puke that won.

Blueabyss 10-13-2013 07:39 AM

I have never been to the races in Key West but Have been to Key West many times. I Live in Clearwater and have been to the races there. While it is fun, Key West is more fun on an average day than Clearwater is at the races. The whole Tampa Bay Area has been stifled by the Fun Police. You can't wear a thong on the beach,and no I don't wear them the wife does. You can't Drink on the beach. And as of a few years ago you can't even take your dog with you to the Islands just offshore. One of the great things Tampa Bay Had was Gasparilla. The biggest drunk fest tittie flashing picture taking event of the year. That was until 4 years ago when Flashing or walking across the street with a beer would get you a ticket. I say let Clearwater have the races and all the fun people descend on Key West that week. More room for us that way.

Chris

Matt Trulio 10-13-2013 10:01 AM

Here's the story that ran on speedonthewater.com on Sept. 30, http://speedonthewater.com/in-the-ne...nts-the-worlds.

Todd Swofford of sportradio1600 picked up the story and interviewed me about the topic on Friday. The interview ran yesterday at noon and 7 p.m. East Coast time. It runs today at the same times. I haven't heard it but I will today. Did any of you happen to catch it? (Yeah right, with college football on all day.)

There are two issues here: First, emotional reactions from casual and hardcore fans who love Key West—all understandable. Second, a potential business decision on the part of an offshore racing organization. I'm neutral on the subject. Certainly, if SBI withdraws and the Florida Powerboat Club's poker run continues with its typically giant boat count, there will still be an economic impact on Key West. No question. How would such a move effect the FPC run? I don't think anyone can answer that definitively.

LubeJobs42 10-13-2013 10:51 AM

I hope this doesn't happen! We just opened our new Burgerfi restaurant on Duval hoping to make it a racers-Poker runners hangout.

wananewboat 10-13-2013 10:56 AM

Can't wait to try the food.

lucky strike 10-13-2013 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Donzi ZX (Post 4011049)
It's the whole Key West experience. Hang in Clearwater for a week? No thanks.

Well said.

Catastrophe 10-13-2013 12:32 PM

I bet the races go no where.

That's just John flying the I'm going to leave flag so he can get more concessions out of the town.

It's BS.

Xtremeracing 10-13-2013 12:42 PM

That hasnt worked well over the yrs, every yr the city wants to pay less. It will get to the point at sometime he wont be able to afford to put a race on in KW. You can afford to lose so much money putting on a race.

Catastrophe 10-13-2013 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4011275)
That hasnt worked well over the yrs, every yr the city wants to pay less. It will get to the point at sometime he wont be able to afford to put a race on in KW. You can afford to lose so much money putting on a race.

Agreed

Matt Trulio 10-13-2013 01:23 PM

There is some history of conflict with this venue and SBI. As most of you will recall, SBI moved its worlds to New Orleans in 2001 when APBA Offshore took the Key West venue.

Completely neutral here, but a move would not be unprecedented—nor would a return to the venue after a change.

News stories evolve until they reach their conclusion. This is one to watch.

ActiveThunder 10-13-2013 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 4011281)
There is some history of conflict with this venue and SBI. As most of you will recall, SBI moved its worlds to New Orleans in 2001 when APBA Offshore took the Key West venue.

Completely neutral here, but a move would not be unprecedented—nor would a return to the venue after a change.

News stories evolve until they reach their conclusion. This is one to watch.

Matt,

The difference is people go to New Orleans or Key West to party. People go to Clearwater to retire and wait to die.

Expensive Date 10-13-2013 04:41 PM

So if the race leaves will the PR continue?

cig92 10-13-2013 06:08 PM

not sure why the three major players, (oss, sbi apba) cant get past their differences (ego's) and put on a great race. bring them all and it will help with the money and at the same time put on one of the greatest event's known to man with more boats than you can count. there isn't a better venue than key west, period!


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