No Skaters at the top
 

Where are the Skaters? All the top finishers in the big boy class are MTIs.

Someone get some inspiration for goodness sake and take them down.

MTI is embarrassing the Skater Nation!!

What are you talking about? There aren't even any Skaters in the top classes... How bout the Skaters kicking the $hit out of all the Mtis in Super boat!!!

Geico isn't an mti. Qatar's two big boats are not mti's. in the 750 class it's 2 skaters fighting for the win

Unlimited class
1,2 and 3 MTI

Gieco isn't a MTI?

She's not a Skater.

Title says B I G boys. Unlimited. Baddest of the baddest. Not one Skater.

Its because the only 448 Skater in existance is at LOTO!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which one is that griff?

Because in the class where all the engines are the same, the Skaters are winning!
The class where the most efficient hull counts the most

Darr's----Its a 40, but he calls it a 448 since he added the bussel.

I believe that they said Miss Geico and the Qaatar unlimited boat were 44 Viking's during the KW broadcast. Never herad of them

IMO the class with Geico and Quatar turbine are dumb, to make this sport reall grow those teams should just step down to Super Cat!! Just like the Cat Lite got combined... No one cares about just big and only $$ counts... Oh and BTW the Quatar super cat MTI can't even COMPETE!!! With the Skaters

Qatar turbine is a Mystic, Mary Mac turbine is an MTI

GEICO and the "other" Qatar boat are Victorys, CMS and Marine Concepts are MTIs, Alex and Ani is a Platinum

and props to the "Cat Killer" team for stepping up to Unlimited. Even though they are getting spanked, at least they are not riding around by themselves in their own class.

What they should do is combine the turbine and unlimited classes (2 turbines, 6 unlimiteds). Unlimited should be unlimited.

Geico already proved they can run with the turbines, let them all run. this would encourage more turbines and if they are killing the class split them back up.

Just as in many forms of racing including NHRA, NASCAR, F1, etc. The "unlimited" classes are really just becoming "unlimited budget" classes. By definition, this will always be the case. Eventually though, when only the wealthiest competitors are left running around the courses by themselves it no longer becomes an ego stroke to win in a class of one. When that happens, and the remaining fans no longer care to watch such an event, rules will change to encourage more participants. Just look at the boat count in Super Cat.

I agree turbine class is dumb.

Unlimited class is interesting but would be more interesting if someone rich dude would build a Skater with 1650s to wipe them out.

Geico needed another couple laps and would have taken the lead. Look at what they gained in distance on the last couple of laps. MTI's ran real good. The race weds Geico checked out and had a 45sec win over second place.. Be good race come Sunday with all the teams hanging it out!

Don't know that much about it, but isn't the Victory and MTI both derivatives of Skater. If my memory is correct, Victory was originally built by Scism in UAE after they imported Skaters for the Victory team. Then, MTI was born here and if I remember right the word was the bottom was a lightly modified pop of a Skater. So, if I have everything right, Skater is whipping azz indirectly. No?

That is my understanding, except the only two other points that someone can correct me on. Are Skater has a different (lighter/stronger?) lay up, and they have since modified and improved there hull designs.

even obvious splashes of the Skaters do not perform the same once they make enough changes to the "new" hull not to legally infringe upon Peter......

I agree with the only exception being the 32 dough wright,

Gotta disagree. I enjoy those guys.

If you look at the lap times the piston boats have been faster than the turbine boats so far in key west. I would say the racing would be closer than many think. The geico victory hull is based on a tencara hull. If I am not mistaken that is also what the mystic hull started as.

+1.... with the new power of the 1650's running against the turbines the playing field is alot closer to being even than factory tweeked 1350's running against 1075's

Michael Peters -http://www.mpyd.net/portfolio/portfolio.aspx

his boats were winning C1 races long before, don't think Skater had any real success competing at that level. so that would be a NO.

would be nice to see how the 52 MTI runs, but the shorter course in KW seems to be favoring the "faster setup" vs rough water most we're expecting

Well, money = speed = wins. Right now it looks like the money race guys are buying MTIs.

Jeff and Brad were building a big Skater to compete but then the accident happened. :(

Geico insurance sponsors a boat that delaminated and came apart and later burns to the ground. JBS delaminates and the bottom came apart.

Was John Tomlinson not quoted a few years back as stating something to the effect that if a person wanted a rough water race boat, definitely get a Skater and if it was smooth water - MTI was the choice.

On a side thought, What is the timeframe on an order through to delivery for a Skater vs MTI these days???

[QUOTE=skaterdave;4024328]Michael Peters -http://www.mpyd.net/portfolio/portfolio.aspx

his boats were winning C1 races long before, don't think Skater had any real success competing at that level. so that would be a NO

Did a Mystic win? I recall that being a copy of a Tencara which was a Peters design.. Victory of the UAE for years raced Skaters with Randy Scism running the show. Don't know if the Victory boats of today are related to that effort in any way. MTI however is a derivative of Skater from what I remember.

Bingo! Funny how a guy gets sent over to race Skaters and magically becomes an "expert" boat builder. To clarify, I'm not specifically talking about Scism.

Truth is that if they had the rules now about copying boats back then (specifically the old 10% rule), there would be a few cat builders now that wouldn't have a business.

Well I don't think anything can run with that Stihl 388 these days, especially in smooth water.

Not sure on build time, but they are not laid up the same. You have to upgrade the Mti to get it to where every Skater is laid up.

What does "laid up" mean?

Uhhhhhhhhhh??????

To clarify, I'm a Skater fan (not just because I have one) but……..

lamination schedule and composites used

All good, just was responding to ur post

The hull number on both Mti's and the Victory boats start with VIC

From USCG MIC Database http://www.uscgboating.org/recalls/m...il.aspx?id=VIC

MIC: VIC
Status: In Business
Company: MARINE TECHNOLOGY INC
Company Official: WADE HAUSMAN
Parent Company: Parent MIC:
Address: 165 ENTERPRISE DRIVE City: WENTZVILLE
State: MO Zip: 63385
Country: Phone: 6366391166
Fax: In Business: Monday, May 10, 1999
Date Modified: Monday, July 01, 2013
Type: Inboards, Cabin Cruisers


Additional Address:
Comments: 092486 FORMERLY:8125 SUNSET AVE, FAIROAKS CA:
CO-NAME CHG. PREVIOUSLY INTERSTATE SPORTS; JIM PATRICK; 9385 OLD ST HWY 775; FAIR OAKS CA 95628; (916)663-1234;
MSO SFC; TYPE 11; INBUS 840718 OOB 870514. LarryDoss-RNI-email-021024:MFG PKG & TELEPHONE & ADDRESS CHANGED-(314) 561-3142; 2024 WATERS EDGE COURT; LAKE ST LOUIS, MO; 63367.-021025-Mm. 070113 (RDH) UPDATED POC; PREVIOUS POC WAS JONAH ASHBY.

What's the deal with the additional address? Cause I live 15 min away from it... And there is no big Performance boat anything around here

Aren't skaters just composite Cougar cats? which are just giant switzer wings?:party-smiley-004::poopoo::daz: