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mptrimshop 01-01-2014 04:22 PM

Putting together my stereo.
 
Well time has come to upgrade the tunes... My boat came with a sweet set of boss audio 6x9s and 6.5s. Set my gunnels/cup holder cubby up to accept two sets of 6.5's and my side panels accept 6x9's.

Here is where I'm at so far 2 sets of these

http://www.wetsounds.com/pages/products/XS-650-RGB.html

One set of these


http://www.wetsounds.com/pages/products/SW-10FA.html



For power I'm going to go with this for the 6.5's



http://www.wetsounds.com/pages/products/HT6.html


And this for the subs




http://www.wetsounds.com/pages/products/HT4.html


This will leave me with my 6x9 holes open..... I'm thinking about making a filler panel and tossing one more set of 6.5's in there.... As I don't real want to start mixing speaker brands and wet sounds 6x9 is not going to work in this application. I could just get rid of the 6x9 hole all together and get a smaller amp... But that's no fun.


Looking for opinions

MILD THUNDER 01-01-2014 05:00 PM

Have you considered going with the mono sub amp they offer? You can wire the subs together for a 2 ohm load since they are both single voice coil 4 ohm subs.

http://www.wetsounds.com/pages/products/HT1_spec.html

I know nothing about wetsounds stuff, but , Id consider running 2 pairs of the 6.5s and see how you like the sound. Sometimes more isn't always better. As far as the subs, although free air subs are good, I still don't think they perform anywhere as good as they could in a dedicated enclosure.

mptrimshop 01-01-2014 05:15 PM

I was under the impression the 4 ohm was the way to go. I was at the dealer a few days ago and they let me take a 6.5 and hook it up... I used a 5 gallon bucket...LOL. The thing was unreal!! I'm kinda committed to 6 because the holes are cut already. I would love to do a sealed set up for the subs... But I'm trying to decide if it's worth what it's going to take to do that.

MILD THUNDER 01-01-2014 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by mptrimshop (Post 4050731)
I was under the impression the 4 ohm was the way to go. I was at the dealer a few days ago and they let me take a 6.5 and hook it up... I used a 5 gallon bucket...LOL. The thing was unreal!! I'm kinda committed to 6 because the holes are cut already. I would love to do a sealed set up for the subs... But I'm trying to decide if it's worth what it's going to take to do that.

As long as the amp is capable of 2 ohm load, then no problem. I am running two 4 ohm 10'' Alpine Marine subs off a 2 channel amp, bridged to one channel. So its a 2ohm load now.

The Wetsounds stuff looks cool, but dam its pricey! I have four of the Alpine marine 7'' coaxials in my cockpit, with the two 10'' subs. I can crank it and hear it over my dry piped 800's cruising if desired, but I like hearing the engines better. Im pretty happy with the Alpine stuff for what it costs. I think for two sets of 7'' speakers and two subs I was around 500 bucks. I have an old school Aurasound amp for the coaxials and a old school fosgate 800.2 for the subs. My next purchase will be some alpine PDX amps. They are much more efficient, the old school fosgate amp will kill the batteries in no time if I let it. My subs are mounted under the rear bench, and this spring would like to build a enclosure behind them in a quest for a bit deeper lows.

Nightlife1970 01-01-2014 07:49 PM

I would need to see some pictures of the cockpit to tell you what I would do. I personally have never used the wetsound stuff but have heard good things.

I can tell you that just about any cockpit setup right with a couple set's of 6.5" up high in the gunnels, and a couple subs down low under the bench seat will sound decent if powered correctly.

Mixing 6x9 and 6.5 can work against each other as well. Best to have all the same speaker. Also don't put mid/high speakers down low in the cockpit, unless you really have no other place to put them. You won't hear them very well at all.

mptrimshop 01-01-2014 08:37 PM

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This is the set up I'm going with... I will prob mount the sub on the gunnel right between the bolster legs so they kinda protect them. I will point the speakers up at an angle. I'm really leaning towards setting those 6x9's up as 6.5's.

caseyh 01-02-2014 10:27 AM

Not sure wet sounds are worth the money. They are nice and have easy ways to get LEDs rigs. But why not something you can find cheaper and sounds as nice like JL or Rockford and they make 8" coaxles. Picked some rockfords up of the internet for $130.

mptrimshop 01-02-2014 03:23 PM

I went to the boat shop where I'm
Getting them..... I do interior work for them. They let me get an infinity, a Polk and the wet sounds and hook them all up to the same amp set up. I was going to do MB quart due to price ..... Well after I did that little show down, it's was clear ..... Wet sounds is no joke. They hands down blew the rest away including the stock set up
That comes in Ski Nauteque.... And they don't put cheap crap in there 160k wakeboard boats.

FIXX 01-02-2014 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by mptrimshop (Post 4050831)
This is the set up I'm going with... I will prob mount the sub on the gunnel right between the bolster legs so they kinda protect them. I will point the speakers up at an angle. I'm really leaning towards setting those 6x9's up as 6.5's.

whats up with the 3 rd pic? i would stick with a 4 ohme sub,,2 ohm over amps and turn up way too fast..if you like loud and muddy base then you may like it..me personally i like 8 ohm with alot of power,,i prefer a 15'' ev speaker with a cloth rolled edge which makes the base snappy..their are all differant ways to wire the speakers,if you need information call me and ill walk you through it..i worked for a rockford distributor in my early 20's and did all their installs including some popular people's vehicle's

mptrimshop 01-02-2014 04:37 PM

3rd pic is setting up the glass to add a 6.5 on that spot .... Wish I would have waited... But I didn't so 3 sets of 6.5's it is

Nightlife1970 01-02-2014 07:32 PM

Yes I would replace the 6x9 with 6.5". I would have angled the speakers in pocket back and up not forward and up. Put a set infront of the bolsters. That should still get you pretty good coverage in the cockpit. A couple of subs in the bench and you are set. Best if you do enclosed boxes, but free air will work.

Make sure you have the right power. For your 6.5" best to have 125% of the rms power for the speakers. So if they want 100 watts each get an amp with 125 watts rms output. For the subs go at least 150%. Also running three sets of 6.5" you will probably have to go with a 4 channel amp. Run two sets of speakers off one set of channels and just one off the other set. Not many of todays switching digital amps like 1 ohm loads. But this will give you the ability to add a set of speakers in the cabin or something later..

Nightlife1970 01-02-2014 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by FIXX (Post 4051115)
whats up with the 3 rd pic? i would stick with a 4 ohme sub,,2 ohm over amps and turn up way too fast..if you like loud and muddy base then you may like it..me personally i like 8 ohm with alot of power,,i prefer a 15'' ev speaker with a cloth rolled edge which makes the base snappy..their are all differant ways to wire the speakers,if you need information call me and ill walk you through it..i worked for a rockford distributor in my early 20's and did all their installs including some popular people's vehicle's

While EV 15" PA speakers work great for PA, not very good for use in a boat. They need big boxes, big power, and are not really designed for the environment. Depending on what EV driver you are using you are going to need a 4 cu.ft enclosure, and 800 watts of power at 8ohm. Not many boats have that kind of room in them, then you are talking about a 1600 watt amplifier to drive it. Yeah it would have great output if you had a boat you could mount it in.

Nightlife1970 01-02-2014 08:00 PM

Here is a thread on the setup in my boat.

http://www.speedwake.com/forums/show...+boom+boom+pow

I'm not to far from you so if you need any help or need to ask any questions give me a shout.

mptrimshop 01-02-2014 08:42 PM

i choose the amps that i did because they are the ones designed by wetsounds to work with the speakers i am gettin. i agree %100 with the over power of the speakers,but according to the company this is the best set up.

pstorti 01-03-2014 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Nightlife1970 (Post 4051222)
Run two sets of speakers off one set of channels and just one off the other set. Not many of todays switching digital amps like 1 ohm loads. But this will give you the ability to add a set of speakers in the cabin or something later..

I don't understand this advice, why is this a good way to set it up? Wouldn't a 6 channel amp be better? Seems like one side of this 4 channel amp will be working very hard and the other not hard enough. And also if you have the space and $$ won't the sound be cleaner running amps at 4 ohms vs putting lots of speakers on each channel to get the ohms down and the power (and distortion?) up?

Nightlife1970 01-03-2014 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 4051411)
I don't understand this advice, why is this a good way to set it up? Wouldn't a 6 channel amp be better? Seems like one side of this 4 channel amp will be working very hard and the other not hard enough. And also if you have the space and $$ won't the sound be cleaner running amps at 4 ohms vs putting lots of speakers on each channel to get the ohms down and the power (and distortion?) up?

Yes a 6 channel would be great, but not as easy to find. A 2ohm load is not working hard for new amps that's what they are designed for. You won't hear the difference from .5% distortion to 5% in a boat. And distortion is only present if you run the amp to that point. It's all a balance of power, space, and cost. I run my whole system at 1.3ohm. There is no distortion in it, until I drink to much beer :)

mptrimshop 01-03-2014 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Nightlife1970 (Post 4051629)
Yes a 6 channel would be great, but not as easy to find. A 2ohm load is not working hard for new amps that's what they are designed for. You won't hear the difference from .5% distortion to 5% in a boat. And distortion is only present if you run the amp to that point. It's all a balance of power, space, and cost. I run my whole system at 1.3ohm. There is no distortion in it, until I drink to much beer :)


I like beer!!!

pstorti 01-03-2014 03:10 PM

Me too!


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