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hogie roll 01-21-2014 04:15 PM

AT vs. OL
 
Not that I can afford either, but I'm bored. Two new boats here that were similarly priced, I see the AT just got a big price drop though. So which is better/the better deal and why? Commence furious debate!

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o55113-en.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o54328-en.html

OL is lighter, staggered, faster, more fuel efficient. 99mph with 520s at 369k

AT is bigger, more cabin, nicer? 90+? 325k now.

I'd take the AT! Love that interior and color combo, classy.

12meter joe 01-21-2014 04:17 PM

Fountain

Indy 01-21-2014 04:19 PM

Cabo

baditude 01-21-2014 04:26 PM

Order a new 36' Pantera :party-smiley-004:

302Sport 01-21-2014 04:43 PM

Active Thunder hands down of comparing those two boats. When you start getting into higher end obviously OL...

Crossett 01-21-2014 04:45 PM

Give me the AT painted like the OL

ICDEDPPL 01-21-2014 04:48 PM

I like the less couch bigger bed of the OL.

MonkeySea2 01-21-2014 05:04 PM

Either! I like the look of the new OL 36SL however, I think in this case I'd go with the AT. I just like the old school styling and rough water handling of the AT. Not that I've ever been on one!!

Rick G 01-21-2014 05:12 PM

The AT is a bigger boat at 37 feet assuming they are not including the bolt on swim platform as the OL is a 36 foot boat with what appears to be a 3 foot bussle . The AT definitely has a bigger cabin and appaers to have a roomier cockpit . Notwithstanding all of that, my guess is the OL might hold its value a bit better in the long run.
RG.

302Sport 01-21-2014 05:24 PM

Here's my beef, if you took the name brands off the boats and the average person looked at the two side by side, that particular OL looks like a stripped out model with no bling, no billet, etc...

I understand that OL is trying to build this boat as a lower cost type boat but it def shows. Why can't they build a boat optioned out, with the fit and finish that the AT has for the same price?

Jupiter Sunsation 01-21-2014 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Rick G (Post 4060967)
The AT is a bigger boat at 37 feet assuming they are not including the bolt on swim platform as the OL is a 36 foot boat with what appears to be a 3 foot bussle . The AT definitely has a bigger cabin and appaers to have a roomier cockpit . Notwithstanding all of that, my guess is the OL might hold its value a bit better in the long run.
RG.

Not sure about resale......that OL has been for sale for 5-6 months and the price has dropped 30K. That is the first OL 36 made and they still haven't sold it!

I like the boat, the speed is fantastic on 2 yr warranty 520's but 370K buys you a lot of options on the used boat market.

302Sport 01-21-2014 05:44 PM

What people are failing to realize is that the 36OL isn't a real 36, take off the 3 foot bustle and it is the same length as a 33AT....

sommerfliesby 01-21-2014 05:51 PM

I really like Outerlimits boats (IF I go bigger, that's my number one choice)...but between those two, AT all the way. The difference in speed is not that great...but I've seen few boats that could touch the popcorn-making awesome that is the AT interior...

hogie roll 01-21-2014 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4060976)
Here's my beef, if you took the name brands off the boats and the average person looked at the two side by side, that particular OL looks like a stripped out model with no bling, no billet, etc...

I understand that OL is trying to build this boat as a lower cost type boat but it def shows. Why can't they build a boat optioned out, with the fit and finish that the AT has for the same price?

Carbon fiber? That's my best guess. And they charge more of a premium probably too. That power package is certainly cheaper too.

hogie roll 01-21-2014 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4060985)
What people are failing to realize is that the 36OL isn't a real 36, take off the 3 foot bustle and it is the same length as a 33AT....

Yeah I didn't catch that initially. I just thought it was interesting that they were priced within 10k for a while and both had the brand new merc packages.

flat rate 01-21-2014 06:13 PM

Active Thunder!

abmotorman 01-21-2014 06:17 PM

Love OL boats but the interior looks much better on the AT. Also, I know the trend is to go digital but to me keeping some analog gauges on dash is a must. AT win's the dash look hands down.

baywatch 01-21-2014 06:20 PM

For me I would go with the AT all day long. Not a fan of side by side bolsters but still wouldn't think twice about the AT over the OL. It is a lot more boat for the money and as soon as the water gets bumpy you will quickly notice the difference between a 33' boat with a 3' bussle and a 37' boat. The other thing is in the the choice of power. The 520's get you some warranty but it seems like that is a power package being used for big bow riders and runabouts and not really in performance style boats (could be a problem at resale time). Lastly, any time you are dealing with a new model you have the issue of whether or not it will have a following. The 29' OL is great example of that. Not sure how many they actually sold, but I don't know many guys that would love to add a 29' OL to their stable. The 36' to me seems like a big brother to the 29' (shorter boat and bigger bussle) and only time will tell if it develops a following. Should be fun to watch.

I know I feel for these dealers with inventory sitting on floor plan after 90 days when principal payments kick in (probably has something to do with the recent price drop on that OL).

Wildman_grafix 01-21-2014 08:17 PM

Funny I was thinking the same thing when this was "hinted" at on another thread.

Like most said AT, love OL's but 350k+ for something with 520's and a ports potty seems high.

How fast would a striped down 33 AT run with those motors?

hogie roll 01-21-2014 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4061087)
Funny I was thinking the same thing when this was "hinted" at on another thread.

Like most said AT, love OL's but 350k+ for something with 520's and a ports potty seems high.

How fast would a striped down 33 AT run with those motors?

Isn't a 33 being built?

Pwraddr 01-21-2014 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by korvetkeith (Post 4061093)
Isn't a 33 being built?

Yes, but is think with 565s. It'll be fast.

I think the 33 AT with 525 was 90 plus.

jeff32 01-21-2014 08:42 PM

yes I've seen it!

Drock78 01-21-2014 08:48 PM

Plus...I don't think that there is a stripped down version of any AT. Built for ride. Built to last. Built for comfort. I'll take the AT any day.

jeff32 01-21-2014 09:01 PM

can't seem to be able to post pictures of the 33...

302Sport 01-21-2014 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Pwraddr (Post 4061096)
Yes, but is think with 565s. It'll be fast.

I think the 33 AT with 525 was 90 plus.

My buddies 33 with 525's ran 93mph

Greatguy66 01-21-2014 09:22 PM

Both very nice I guess the AT because it's cheaper!:confused:

Excess 01-22-2014 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Greatguy66 (Post 4061139)
Both very nice I guess the AT because it's cheaper!:confused:

You mean the customer's are cheaper :party-smiley-004:

The AT offer the best ride best value on the market.

machloosy 01-22-2014 11:48 AM

I don't think IMO, there is even a question. The AT. You spend 90% of your time in the cockpit either relaxing or driving. 37 AT will ride better, and has more cockpit space. Plus it just looks nicer overall!

Captain YARRR 01-22-2014 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Pwraddr (Post 4061096)
Yes, but is think with 565s. It'll be fat.

I think the 33 AT with 525 was 90 plus.

Anyone know what a new 33 AT is running these days?


Edit: I mean cost of a new 33 AT

Gladhe8er 01-22-2014 12:15 PM

93 with 525's. I bet 96-97 with 565's.

Knot 4 Me 01-22-2014 12:39 PM

The main difference, according to some, is that the one boat will never spin out on you and the other will spin out unloading it off the trailer.

:stooges:

Is it spring yet?!

BTW, I'd be happy as a pig in poo with either ride.

On Time 01-22-2014 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4060979)
Not sure about resale......that OL has been for sale for 5-6 months and the price has dropped 30K. That is the first OL 36 made and they still haven't sold it!

I like the boat, the speed is fantastic on 2 yr warranty 520's but 370K buys you a lot of options on the used boat market.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o52384-en.html

hogie roll 01-22-2014 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by On Time (Post 4061374)

Ah snap. Someone had to go there. I don't expect Reggie's new 43 to be competitive in price to these, fwiw.

Drock78 01-22-2014 01:40 PM

Aren't we comparing the OL and AT? Why you have to throw the turd in the punch bowl? Lol

Club Drew 01-22-2014 01:44 PM

Ol!

abmotorman 01-22-2014 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by On Time (Post 4061374)

Hey, that's a USED boat. NOT a fair comparison. Damn nice boat though!

TCBoss302 01-22-2014 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4061401)
Aren't we comparing the OL and AT? Why you have to throw the turd in the punch bowl? Lol

Maybe because they're all the same length? :party-smiley-004:

Drock78 01-22-2014 03:41 PM

Not same build quality. .

xxx 01-22-2014 06:02 PM

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Here are a few spy pics of the latest 36. We are very proud of this new model for numerous reasons. It represents an improved production process, which is important for many reasons, it allows us to continue to produce an epoxy/e-glass/carbon/foam cored boat manufactured to elevated standards similar to aviation rather than to traditional polyester/plywood construction that has been the standard in the marine world. By being able to stream-line production via molded standardization and precision production processes, it allows for reduced man hours which increases quality and accuracy as well as lowers the cost to consumers.

We spend countless hours and dollars in the engineering department on FEA analysis to produce the most efficient lamination schedule and to also produce the most efficient hulls. The technology learned on the racecourse with the last two back to back championships with our 29 evolve directly into this product as well as our entire line of boats. I don’t think you will find many companies as technology driven as we are here. The most important feature on any new boat is the balance of weight, hull design, manufacturing ability and long term durability, this all comes together to produce a fast, safe pleasure boat to be enjoyed for decades.

As far as personal taste and opinion, I am certainly bias but I certainly appreciate the technology advancements that allow for digital thorottles, and all digital dashboards. You would certainly be disappointed if your new Corvette had auto meter gauges bolted to a dash rather than a full color monitor to look at.

The next thing we should all be appreciative of is dealerships such as Performance Boat Center who step up to the plate to order and stock new performance boats that can be bought at a moments notice by a consumer. It is the vision and resources they use that help to keep the momentum going in our very small industry.

Keep the spirited debate going! Its good conversation for a long winter!

The good news is Miami is right around the corner, so be sure to come by the booth to see the latest boats and come by the dock to see myself giving demo rides on the new 36!

Mike Fiore

sommerfliesby 01-22-2014 06:11 PM

Sweet ride Mr. Fiore...I look forward to seeing more pics. And I think its damn cool of you to step into the debate!


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