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02-26-2014 | 08:32 PM
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From: Cleveland, OH / Pewaukee, WI
Congrats from one eng to another.
With the easing of work visas for foreign engineers wanting to work here, I hope your job remains secure. I have benefited from the fact that my local knowledge of conditions here as well as specific product knowledge has kept me secure. I only need about 6 more years til retirement, so I am reasonably safe. I have grave concerns for the future where a flood of outsiders will dilute the earning power engineering once enjoyed.
and no, I don't own or could afford even a very USED Outerlimits.
This is not my Father's (Civil Engineer) world, and the big firms already utilize their offshore engineers that work for $25,000 per year or less.
With the easing of work visas for foreign engineers wanting to work here, I hope your job remains secure. I have benefited from the fact that my local knowledge of conditions here as well as specific product knowledge has kept me secure. I only need about 6 more years til retirement, so I am reasonably safe. I have grave concerns for the future where a flood of outsiders will dilute the earning power engineering once enjoyed.
and no, I don't own or could afford even a very USED Outerlimits.
This is not my Father's (Civil Engineer) world, and the big firms already utilize their offshore engineers that work for $25,000 per year or less.
02-26-2014 | 08:50 PM
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I hear ya guys. There is a very very high demand for designers in my area and has been for many years. as of two days ago there was over 50 job postings for designers within 10 miles of my front door. The company I work for not only does work for big three but, aerospace, government, and more. I am trained in NX, Catia, Solidworks, Autodesk, and ideas. Kinda rare, and I made it a point to excel in all. Most designers/detailers learn one, maybe two, so I'm not to worried about it. The pay isnt what it used to be in the industry but is still very nice. If I can't find work, there is bigger problems going on. Thanks for the heads up though.
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02-27-2014 | 07:58 AM
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I'm on the other end, I'm a plant operator, i have no degree. I work hand in hand daily with engineers. My area has gonna threw 6 in 2 years and very few of them were educated in the US. It sounds like 12 meter has a good gig and knows what he is doing. But in the manufacturing world you guys are spot on. If I were to spend the $$ and get my degree I would have to take a pay cut. I find that most in my company spend there days working on excel spreadsheets that a high school kid could do. My company's stance is it's more cost effective to pay there operators more so we stay and can basically train engineers to handle the details and paper work of improving production...... It's sad.
02-27-2014 | 09:09 AM
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I'm on the other end, I'm a plant operator, i have no degree. I work hand in hand daily with engineers. My area has gonna threw 6 in 2 years and very few of them were educated in the US. It sounds like 12 meter has a good gig and knows what he is doing. But in the manufacturing world you guys are spot on. If I were to spend the $$ and get my degree I would have to take a pay cut. I find that most in my company spend there days working on excel spreadsheets that a high school kid could do. My company's stance is it's more cost effective to pay there operators more so we stay and can basically train engineers to handle the details and paper work of improving production...... It's sad.
Lets talk about the positive things and not so much the negative fellas!
02-27-2014 | 09:49 AM
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Least you have the option of the weather holding. Only thing holding around here is me holding my ballz!! 6 degrees right now going down to -10 tonight. So that's cool.
02-27-2014 | 11:53 AM
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I hear ya guys. There is a very very high demand for designers in my area and has been for many years. as of two days ago there was over 50 job postings for designers within 10 miles of my front door. The company I work for not only does work for big three but, aerospace, government, and more. I am trained in NX, Catia, Solidworks, Autodesk, and ideas. Kinda rare, and I made it a point to excel in all. Most designers/detailers learn one, maybe two, so I'm not to worried about it. The pay isnt what it used to be in the industry but is still very nice. If I can't find work, there is bigger problems going on. Thanks for the heads up though.
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