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precisiondetails 03-09-2014 12:34 AM

I mean are they here to race or just show up here and there to show off, they might as well just coordinate an everyone just shows up to one race by them selfs and they can all win A race!! Lmao

JIMKID Motorsports 03-09-2014 09:00 AM

The biggest problem with that class is getting these motors to finish they are just grenades they run them to close to the edge to last the laps

Matt Trulio 03-09-2014 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4086608)
Who gives a flying F...!!! You guys are proving why- great UL is stupid expensive, inconsistent and not many teams all show up at same race!! Just proves my point more that they should just get more efficient and do super cat for less money and more points!! My point again!! Just a bunch of rich *****s that want to race with their money and not be competitive!! Ditch UL and save that **** for PR show boats!! And yes Geico, go race in a series and not some people in SOME races!! UL class is the perfect example of WORTHLESS CLASS!!

Your passion is admirable, Precision. Clearly, you're a serious fan. (Otherwise, why would you care so much?) But with all due respect, four points:

1. Do you like having people tell you how to spend your money on your leisure activity? Because that is, essentially, what you're telling Unlimited-class racers to do.

2. I know a lot of the "rich a....s" you mention and I can't think of one of them who isn't extremely competitive. Their class is expensive, as I wrote earlier, but they still have to race each other when they're on the course.

3. They nature of the beast, the cost, means most teams choose not to run full schedules. They pick and choose the races they want to run, and therein lies another part of the problem. Sometimes they don't all choose the same races. Sometime they do, and then professional/personal schedules conflict. Superboat had the biggest average fleet size of any SBI class last year, but even that class had races where every boat didn't show up.

4. People will make choices from the options they are given. If Superboat were the only inboard cat class, the Superboat Unlimited racers would have to either choose that class or pass on inboard cat racing in SBI. An offshore class is a "product" like any other and people make their choices as they see fit—it's the American way, right? The manufacturer, in this case SBI, can decide whether or not it wants to offer a particular product. Obviously, SBI believes there is enough demand—and return—to offer Superboat Unlimited.

But if you're looking for class consolidation that comes from limiting choices, and it sounds like you are I would gently suggest you look toward the sanctioning body.

phragle 03-09-2014 10:03 AM

THey have removed the equalizer...water. If offshore boats actually raced offshore in offshore conditions 1650 hp gernades would be irrelevant... a lot less boats spinning and flipping in corners too.

aex 03-09-2014 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4086608)
Who gives a flying F...!!! You guys are proving why- great UL is stupid expensive, inconsistent and not many teams all show up at same race!! Just proves my point more that they should just get more efficient and do super cat for less money and more points!! My point again!! Just a bunch of rich *****s that want to race with their money and not be competitive!! Ditch UL and save that **** for PR show boats!! And yes Geico, go race in a series and not some people in SOME races!! UL class is the perfect example of WORTHLESS CLASS!!

Don't presume you know us or anything about us.
Rich Whats? Now that you're sober re read your comment, it speaks volumes.

aex 03-09-2014 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4086610)
I mean are they here to race or just show up here and there to show off, they might as well just coordinate an everyone just shows up to one race by them selfs and they can all win A race!! Lmao

Perhaps you could coordinate this effort.

aex 03-09-2014 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by JIMKID Motorsports (Post 4086654)
The biggest problem with that class is getting these motors to finish they are just grenades they run them to close to the edge to last the laps

I agree reliability is an issue but we did run our Stotlers four races ( two were short course) at the rev limiters with only inspections and valve adjustments.
We're going to get closer to the old gear/prop set up, improve the engines even more and go forward.
Precision, our biggest problem in Offshore is unity.

precisiondetails 03-09-2014 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by aex (Post 4086701)
Don't presume you know us or anything about us.
Rich Whats? Now that you're sober re read your comment, it speaks volumes.

Sober? Good one lol... I mean what I said! Must be fun to race your selfs! Lmao

precisiondetails 03-09-2014 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 4086674)
Your passion is admirable, Precision. Clearly, you're a serious fan. (Otherwise, why would you care so much?) But with all due respect, four points:

1. Do you like having people tell you how to spend your money on your leisure activity? Because that is, essentially, what you're telling Unlimited-class racers to do.

2. I know a lot of the "rich a....s" you mention and I can't think of one of them who isn't extremely competitive. Their class is expensive, as I wrote earlier, but they still have to race each other when they're on the course.

3. They nature of the beast, the cost, means most teams choose not to run full schedules. They pick and choose the races they want to run, and therein lies another part of the problem. Sometimes they don't all choose the same races. Sometime they do, and then professional/personal schedules conflict. Superboat had the biggest average fleet size of any SBI class last year, but even that class had races where every boat didn't show up.

4. People will make choices from the options they are given. If Superboat were the only inboard cat class, the Superboat Unlimited racers would have to either choose that class or pass on inboard cat racing in SBI. An offshore class is a "product" like any other and people make their choices as they see fit—it's the American way, right? The manufacturer, in this case SBI, can decide whether or not it wants to offer a particular product. Obviously, SBI believes there is enough demand—and return—to offer Superboat Unlimited.

But if you're looking for class consolidation that comes from limiting choices, and it sounds like you are I would gently suggest you look toward the sanctioning body.

Matt- point 3, is EXACTLY my point. And I've said it- obviously they are rich but don't spend enough to race full season, that's why I say go race less expensive Super Cat.

Tell someone how to spend their $$?... No just saying what I believe would be better 4 the sport.

aex 03-09-2014 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4086725)
Sober? Good one lol... I mean what I said! Must be fun to race your selfs! Lmao

Me too. Especially the part about speaks volumes.


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