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Problem solved!
We're going to start our own series and send one boat to each event. OR... We could let the government run offshore so they could take wealth from the rich teams (which we are not) and distribute it equally. |
Originally Posted by aex
(Post 4086742)
Problem solved!
We're going to start our own series and send one boat to each event. OR... We could let the government run offshore so they could take wealth from the rich teams (which we are not) and distribute it equally. I think the UL boats are bad ass, no doubting that. I just think since this is racing, that the guys that only have part time UL schedules, they could realistically go to all races in Super Boat. My point is to make the racing better. Racing in this case IS & SHOULD be the show. I think it's a win win, more boats at more races. Most fans don't know the difference between UL 50' cat and SB 40' Cat, but they can tell when there is good racing. Now if the UL boats could have at least (ill be easy) and say 4-5 boats at every race, well then ok But my thoughts are- it would be better if there were 12-15 boats in one class as apposed to inconsistent turnouts in one class and 6-7 boats in the other. I mean if I was a UL guy and I don't care if I had Bill Gates money, if I hauled my stuff and crew to a race to see that I'm racing my self, I'd be pissed! My point was not to bash anyone, sorry for the harsh words tho, nothing personal just getting a point across. All good my fellow Boaters :) |
No apology necessary, We are allies and I get your point.
With avid boaters and fans like yourself we can't lose. My situation isn't engine costs, Herbie keeps 'em running. It's everything else. The Superboat class competitors spend nearly as much per event as the Unlimiteds. A point you should consider is Unlimited Superboat serves as a vessel where outrageous propulsion packages are put to the test. Even we are introducing a new engine package this year in search of even more power, even more reliability and even save some fuel if you can believe that. Without Unlimited there would be no real world out in the open forum to test these new engines. |
How is the two classes close to the same cost?
93 pump vs 110+ race fuel Simple engines that last longer vs ones that hardly finish a race 45k engines vs 145k engines ?? What am I missing? |
Originally Posted by precisiondetails
(Post 4086608)
Who gives a flying F...!!! You guys are proving why- great UL is stupid expensive, inconsistent and not many teams all show up at same race!! Just proves my point more that they should just get more efficient and do super cat for less money and more points!! My point again!! Just a bunch of rich *****s that want to race with their money and not be competitive!! Ditch UL and save that **** for PR show boats!! And yes Geico, go race in a series and not some people in SOME races!! UL class is the perfect example of WORTHLESS CLASS!!
So of all the classes in SBI, how many fielded all registered teams at every race? Or even half? The logistics, schedule, and economics impact EVERY class not just the "rich"! |
Originally Posted by jonesn'
(Post 4086769)
So of all the classes in SBI, how many fielded all registered teams at every race? Or even half? The logistics, schedule, and economics impact EVERY class not just the "rich"!
By my count, Superboat average 4.5 teams per race. Hope that helps. |
Originally Posted by Matt Trulio
(Post 4086674)
Your passion is admirable, Precision. Clearly, you're a serious fan. (Otherwise, why would you care so much?) But with all due respect, four points:
1. Do you like having people tell you how to spend your money on your leisure activity? Because that is, essentially, what you're telling Unlimited-class racers to do. 2. I know a lot of the "rich a....s" you mention and I can't think of one of them who isn't extremely competitive. Their class is expensive, as I wrote earlier, but they still have to race each other when they're on the course. 3. They nature of the beast, the cost, means most teams choose not to run full schedules. They pick and choose the races they want to run, and therein lies another part of the problem. Sometimes they don't all choose the same races. Sometime they do, and then professional/personal schedules conflict. Superboat had the biggest average fleet size of any SBI class last year, but even that class had races where every boat didn't show up. 4. People will make choices from the options they are given. If Superboat were the only inboard cat class, the Superboat Unlimited racers would have to either choose that class or pass on inboard cat racing in SBI. An offshore class is a "product" like any other and people make their choices as they see fit—it's the American way, right? The manufacturer, in this case SBI, can decide whether or not it wants to offer a particular product. Obviously, SBI believes there is enough demand—and return—to offer Superboat Unlimited. But if you're looking for class consolidation that comes from limiting choices, and it sounds like you are I would gently suggest you look toward the sanctioning body. i can certainly see precision's passion, but i also understand the limitations, and 'free will' if you wish. aex also made an excellent point of the ul's essentially being test beds at the big end of the product. while is have equal respect for the super cat class, they seem to be more represented, thus the purpose of the thread. i think it's exciting to see the new influx of equipment and interest in the ul class. |
Originally Posted by precisiondetails
(Post 4086757)
How is the two classes close to the same cost?
93 pump vs 110+ race fuel Simple engines that last longer vs ones that hardly finish a race 45k engines vs 145k engines ?? What am I missing? Let me reiterate, our Stotlers finished multiple races with only an inspection and basic maintenance. Finishing races takes not only engine longevity but also detailed meticulous attention to all the boat's support systems, an area in which Stotler's crew excels.. Cost wise I said nearly, which is subjective. When you factor in season costs for entry fees, transportation, meals, insurance, accommodations on and on, running a Superboat is expensive. Yes the motors and fuel are less but I don't think in the big picture this is the deal breaker. |
There will be a few Unlimiteds at OPA this year as well.
As well as some Supercats in the OPA 750 Class. |
Nice to see stotler powering up to three ul's this year. Alex Ani, envy, and cintron.
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